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Afl Players On Drugs Shock Horror

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A PROMINENT Perth-based AFL footballer has accused some of his teammates of using illegal recreational drugs.

The player, who did not want to be named, said several of Perth's elite AFL players used recreational drugs instead of alcohol so they could party without putting on weight.

He said party drugs, including ecstasy, were easily available through friends of players.

They were particularly popular during the AFL off-season, when players were not drug-tested but when they were concerned about keeping their weight down before pre-season training.

"Rather than get a belly full of beer, players can take an E (ecstasy tablet) and a bottle of water and still go out and have a good time with their friends," he said.

The revelations came after Carlton player Laurence Angwin was sacked and teammate Karl Norman suspended for a week and fined $5000 after they were found guilty of breaching the players' code of conduct.

The pair had turned up at training last Monday under the influence of the drug ecstasy.

West Coast Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett said that if the claims were true, it was a cop-out for undisciplined players.

Mr Nisbett said the club did not tolerate any use of recreational drugs and players found using them would face serious repercussions, with each case assessed on its merit.

He said he was not aware of any players in the club using recreational drugs.

AFL players who test positive to recreational drugs at training do not face any action from the AFL tribunal, but performance-enhancing drugs are banned.

However, if a player tests positive to a recreational drug after a match, they will be charged.

Ecstasy stays in the body for between two to five days, depending on the size of the tablet.

Drug tests are conducted at random and are performed by the Australian Sports Drug Agency.

A prominent former Melbourne-based AFL player told The West Australian it was well known in Eastern States football circles that certain players in the Eagles and Dockers used recreational drugs.

"There was always talk and rumour on the grapevine about Eagles and Dockers players using drugs - everyone knew who they were," the player said.

Police, the AFL and the Eagles launched investigations in 2002 into a claim that two players were caught on tape phoning a drug dealer for cocaine. The players involved denied the claims, which were never substantiated. No charges were laid.


(from here: http://www.thewest.com.au/20040412/news/general/tw-news-general-home-sto123066.html)

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So it's pretty well known over here that Ben Cousins (our esteemed captain, fittest man in the comp), Michael Gardiner (number 1 ruckman when his knee's working) and the Materas were pretty big coke fiends, probably still are. I wonder who the dockers players are? But clearly this shit isn't confined to the west coast.

Personally I dont see a problem in players taking drugs if it doesn't enhance their performance or detract from it. I mean if youre not allowed to drink then wtf do they expect?


This thread is dedicated to sports heroes on drugs. West Coast Premiers 2004! (not bloody likely)


Which players do YOU think (or have heard) are on drugs? Don't you find it ammusing that the most respectable profession in our land is ridden with drug takers?
 
Is this kind of speculation necessary? Just wait a few weeks and the media will try to expose them all for you anyway...

BigTrancer :)
 
Yeah, this isn't really news to me............. and the media can go and get fucked. All they do is go witch hunting!
And that "PROMINENT Perth-based AFL footballer" I hope HE gets exposed.

Don't these people atleast get some form of PRIVACY?
who CARES what they do in their OWN time.

although it makes a bloody good excuse as to why Mcleod has been out of form............. damn crack head!
 
Why the hell would you go to training high on E?.... seems kinda counter productive to your proffesion... and i'm sure hugging all the guys in the showers doesn't go down too well either =P
 
Laughs Out Fucking Loud @ P_P!
I'd hate to imagine some of the guys I've played rugby over the years in the showers on E.
Alot of them were more queer eye than straight guy.

lol that reminds me...black eye for the queer guy.
 
You will have to watch the next time west coast wins (august?) to see prominent players during the club song jumping up and down and chewing gum like a mad fucker
 
Mr Nisbett said the club did not tolerate any use of recreational drugs and players found using them would face serious repercussions, with each case assessed on its merit.

Yeaaa....so if they were drunk at a bar they'd face serious reprecussions...

8)

---I read over the thread...they aren't allowed to drink????
 
The impression I got was that players could drink, but chose not to [go and get smashed every weekend] because it would decrease their athletic performance.

I think its pretty ironic that they're taking illicit substances because they're better for them than alcohol ;)
 
could somone please give me some insight into the damage drugs does to ones fitness, physical performance ect. alcohol aint good cos of its weight gaining nature ect. a night on the drugs is a good cardio workout imo. jus wondering cos of the brain being fried more so on drugs, how does it compare to an athlete drinking alcohol. i always think that the all nighter and lack of sleep is a major factor is decrease in an athletes performance. ???
 
Roll with it, dem drugs you are takin will be burning big holes in your brain which make you forget how to put one foot in front of the other, rendering your ability to walk and hence play competitive sport useless!!!

Nah, in all seriousness, I don't know exactly what pills do for your physical health. I got told by a mate who basically knows a lot about pilling and its effects. He's a dedicated gym junkie, and I asked him if pills gave you a good fitness work out.

He told me that no, you won't build any muscle mass by taking some gear and then going to town on your legs with a solid session on the dancefloor, as your muscles start to vibrate and hence heat up with the ontake of the pill. Any strenuous activity done under these conditions (ie: dancing like a motherfucker for 6 hrs) will actually eat away at your muscle and fat tissue. It's not a whole lot to worry about - Its very minimal, but also goes a long way to explaining why there aint many overweight people at raves. This has got nothing to do with the drug itself - If you are taking a pill and watching TV or something for a few hours (not something I'd be all that keen on) then this shouldnt affect your physical situation at all.

This is all second hand news that i'm on-passing, but I think the main points are all there.

On the topic of footy players going out pingin:

Hey - we all do it. We cannot criticize AFL players for going out on the flips every now and again. Sure, the carlton guys probably took it to the extreme and got right royally fucked up 1 hr before training.

People try to argue that these guys are role models for young kids, which is fair enough. However, have you ever seen any of the Eagles or Dockers players head out for a night on the drugs in front of an audience of kids? No, you don't. They're a reclusive bunch of guys who get on the pingers very rarely, yet get persecuted if they get recognised. Being honest, what would society prefer as role models; a bunch of West Coast players going out for a night on the pills, having a few waters, talking friendly codshit with some other punters and having a good peace-loving time.... OR do they prefer someone like David Neitz or Fevola or any other punk who goes out and gets shitfaced and takes on half of the security staff at crown casino?

I've been out on the gear with a few AFL players over the last few years and something that the media (and everyone else) has got to realise is that they are just regular guys with an irregular occupation. How can we justify the fact that AFL players taking drugs is bigger news than an everyday domestic violence case. You can't - and that is what shits me about society's, and in particular the media's, attitude towards drugs.

Peace out %)
 
My favourite line in the article is this one:

"Ecstasy stays in the body for between two to five days, depending on the size of the tablet"

Yeah, those BIG pills, they'll do it to ya.
=D
 
The media burnt shane warne to the max, proves hes an absolute champion.
so now its the AFL's turn.... and NRL no doubt........ whos that bulldogs player who tested positive for coke?
 
The Perth nightclubs I worked each saw a number of "regular" AFL players asking the bar staff where they could score. It was never seen as a big deal, although I don't follow the game so I can't say whether it affected their performance or not! It seems like the media's grabbing at straws to keep the footballer scandal going. They seemed like a decent enough bunch (it's the EX-footballers who were rude jerks! ;))
 
Hey, anyone who can take pills one night and play a game of football the next day is a hero in my book: the only game I'm capable of playing is "whose house is this, anyway?" =D
 
aunty establishment said:
Hey, anyone who can take pills one night and play a game of football the next day is a hero in my book: the only game I'm capable of playing is "whose house is this, anyway?" =D

LMFAO << Literally your gonna get me in trouble at work =D

Quote of the day 10/10

Now how do I set this as my sig ??
 
aunty establishment said:
Hey, anyone who can take pills one night and play a game of football the next day is a hero in my book: the only game I'm capable of playing is "whose house is this, anyway?" =D
Hey, my mate and l went to a well known club in Melb. friday night on bickies and speed, and he smoked meth all the way home ( 2 hour drive ) and a few hours after, and played football. Funny thing is he actually got best on ground. Doesnt say much for his team mates 'eh
 
^^^ about this time last year i went on a bender on a friday night. Did my first plug and was off chops, then went out to had another e or two orally. Went back to a mates house for cones in the morning. It was well and truley daylight. went home and slept for a couple hours and had to wake up to go to soccer.

I was fucked up and still well and truley on it but I was loyal to my club and wouldn't chuck a sickie. playing a right-winged midfield position i had to do lots of running (sprints). I felt so fucked and thought i would have a heart attack on the field and pass out at times but I indured. took on heaps of liquids at halftime. felt a bit better second half (2nd wind, i always do) but i still felt smashed!! (disassociated... weird feeling when running acorss the paddock) :(
in the end it was all cool but it did hamper my performace... esp fitness, that may have been from the cones and ciggarettes during the night/morning before. I thought I was going to die at one point but I soldiered on sprinting to my hearts content many times. not recommended!


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on another night, in a popular sydney club that goes into recovery on oxford st, i saw some of the bulldogs team including the fuzzy haired one (dont wnat to mention his name on this forum) still going hard at 9am. for sure he was on it but his team had just been kicked out of the comp for salary breaches.

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Ecstasy stays in the body for between two to five days, depending on the size of the tablet.

bahahahah, thats like saying big pills have more mdma in them... lol @ journalist.
 
One year later, and the issue gets another kick around... ;)

Drug-taking rife in the AFL, claims sacked Blue
By Dan Oakes
May 18, 2005


Sacked Carlton ruckman Laurence Angwin has reopened the issue of recreational drug use by AFL players, claiming that the practice is rife within the league.

Angwin was booted out of the club in April last year after he and teammate Karl Norman turned up at a club recovery session under the influence of ecstasy. Norman was fined and suspended after he admitted taking the drug but Angwin paid a higher price because he initially lied to club officials.

In the an interview with The Bulletin magazine, Angwin also claimed that he took the drug with three "higher profile" Blues on the night in question, but that he did not "dob them in" when confronted by the club.

"No one at Carlton asked us if other players were involved because, I guess, they didn't want to hear the answer," Angwin said.

Angwin said he could name other players within the AFL who regularly used ecstasy because the physical effects were easier to conceal than those of alcohol.

"And it wasn't just Carlton where this was happening, it was just commonplace, especially amongst the younger blokes, because it only cost you $25 to $40, you didn't put on weight and you didn't feel sick at training," he said.

Carlton president Ian Collins said last night the club had no intention of investigating Angwin's claims about other Blues players, pointing out that the disgraced ruckman had a history of lying.

"We can't turn back the clock 15 months. It's all hearsay. Why should we take the word of someone who, at that point in time, was found guilty of an issue and we've taken appropriate action?" Collins said.

"At the time, he had the opportunity to bring forward anything in relation to the issues. He even said at that point in time that he hadn't taken anything and the tests prove otherwise."

However, Collins did say that any future suggestions of drug abuse by players at the club would result in a vigorous investigation.

"It's 12 months old and as far as I'm concerned, we don't believe it's an issue, that's history. But if anything like that happened in the future, we'd take the same sort of action," he said.

"We don't tolerate that sort of thing within the club, and if any player wants to go down that path, we will take the necessary action. If that means we need to suspend or delete players from the list, we will do that."

Collins was critical at the time of the league's drug-testing code, suggesting it was too soft, and threatened to unilaterally introduce random drug testing of the Carlton players. The AFL revamped the code at the start of this year to make the testing process for recreational drugs more rigorous.

Carlton chief executive Michael Malouf, who was unavailable for comment last night, was quoted in The Bulletin as saying the Blues investigated the matter and found no evidence other players were involved.

"You have to understand Angwin was denying he had even taken drugs until the results proved otherwise," Malouf said.

Angwin had pleaded guilty to theft charges relating to a burglary at Norman's house before he was axed by the Blues.

From: http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/...ims-sacked-Blue/2005/05/17/1116095965526.html
BigTrancer :)
 
lol, this is old news... one of the guys i used to buy pills off regularly sold to many eagles and dockers players... he even used to go to a very well known players house to party and alot of them bought of him, including coke... i didnt believe it to be true so he took a couple of us along one night and there they all were off their heads... this is not speculation either, this is the way i saw it...
 
yeah this is not speculating either but i know of a few melbourne based AFL players using speed and coke rather regularly during 2004 (dont know about now), they are quite prominent players as well. everybodies into drugs thesedays.. party safe :)
 
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