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Affected by a trip gone wrong

EnneaNovem

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I've been lurking on and off on bluelight for a little while, knowing this site as being reliable for information and sometimes a good drug-related laugh now and then. But recently something happened that I feel the need to discuss with others who understand what trips can be like, but not with people who know me.

On Monday night I tripped on 25mg of 2c-e, something I have tripped on repeatedly and which I consider my favorite psychedelic (although this was my highest dose of 2c-e yet). It had been some time since my last 2c-e trip and the trip before this was on DOI and extremely unpleasant. I was initially enjoying the trip, although our environment and music was disjointed and I was having a hard time settling into my "trippy" feel. After some time milling about and trying to entertain myself I realized that I had not seen my boyfriend (who was also tripping) for quite some time. He entered the apartment and I asked to have a bit of alone time with him, just wanting a hug and maybe some nice conversation, so we went to a back room.

I observed that he looked very uncomfortable and unhappy, which is unusual for him on a trip, so I inquired about it. The conversation, I soon realized, turned into him breaking off our relationship. Nothing I said seemed to make a difference and he seemed to be acting completely strangely. He said he was getting sick of me, that I ruined things he enjoyed, and that I was going nowhere in life and could not take care of myself. I tried to talk about how I might fix whatever was wrong (I was previously in an emotionally abusive relationship and this relationship has been a haven of happiness for me, so this came out of absolutely nowhere and hit me off-guard) but he would have none of it. I was too confuse to cry or really respond, but tried to offer any solutions I could.

With another 6 or so hours of heavy trip remaining I was taken home and left there alone, being told before he left that my emotions were "not his problem". I wrestled back and forth with an abundance of negative emotions and a feeling of profound emptiness and blankness. I called him, having nobody else I could contact who would be willing to speak to me while I was on drugs, and told him I was scared and didn't want to be alone. The conversation was brief and offered me nothing, and I laid in bed for at least two hours feeling the most despondent I have in my life. It seemed that nothing I said or did would be enough to repair something I hadn't even known was broken before then. I was confused and easily scared because the trip was still going so strongly and nothing positive could break through to me.

Eventually he called me, and said that he had done the wrong thing. He came over, and we talked... he said he had panicked, that he was unhappy with how things in his life were going, and that he had been frustrated. We reconciled, and stayed together the following day to physically recover from the trip, mostly by sleeping.

It's now Saturday and I am still unable to shake the feelings instilled in me by this trip. I know I am so incredibly vulnerable emotionally when I trip, and no matter how many times he has apologized or tried to reassure me I feel the same. I'm now more aware than ever of characteristics in myself that I think bother other people - whether they actually do or not - and feel more shy and small than I have in quite a long time. I feel like the progress I had previously made from being belittled in my previous relationship has been destroyed and I'm having a hard time forgetting what happened. It would have been a blow had I been sober, but on a trip of that height... I don't know. I feel like it left a physical mark on me that I can't get rid of. I feel emotionally bruised. I know that it has only been just under a week, and that I should probably wait longer, but I feel stifled and hurt almost every hour of every day. He seems confused, keeps asking me what's wrong, as if I am supposed to be fine with it by now - which makes me feel more self conscious and immature. It seems like everybody thinks I should have bounced back with a vengeance, but I feel very far from that point.

I'm not sure how to handle this. I am overjoyed that he came back and explained (he said that he had an "irrational panic attack" and did not mean to say the things that he said), and that we are still together; I don't wish to end the relationship. But I am also set back quite far, to a point where I never had to be with him, and feel more like I used to in my abusive relationship. I feel inferior and like a nuisance, and discussing it with him to the extent that I already have seems just to upset him. It makes me feel stupid for being so burned by what happened.

Several times daily, especially when I am just waking up, I feel overwhelmed by a rush of intense sadness and helplessness. I feel like my trust in him was been damaged, though he has assured me repeatedly that it would "never happen again", and I don't know how to mend things so that I feel the way I used to around him. I still do, sometimes, but not with the ease and comfort I used to. Simply put, I'm afraid of him now, and feel like I'm toeing a line between doing the right thing and frustrating him to the point where he will no longer love me.

As a result of all this I am also doubting myself in a general way. I feel less confident that I can perform well or accomplish things, and I feel awkward around all of my previously close friends. I'm unsure of myself and overly emotional in a way I normally am not, though I have managed to hide it. I don't feel like myself. Sometimes I feel blank again, like I did when I was alone at home that morning, and no matter what I do I can't pull an emotion out of myself. That might be worse than feeling so sad and useless, because it scares me not to have any emotions at all.

I don't know where this should go, hence the homeless section, or if it is appropriate at all. Delete it if it is entirely unsuitable, and if so I apologize... but I know of no other dedicated communities of drug users who will understand the emotional impact things that happen during a trip can have, and I just needed to tell someone and get any advice that I can. I want to feel normal again.
 
i once had a salvia trip that totally fucked my world up kind of like that. i slowly came to the realization that it was just a drug, and everything it was making me feel was not the effect of the drug directly but more so an affect of having my mind so far removed from where it's used to being. This probably doesn't help you much, but i promise you this will pass and you'll be fine. i was truly miserable for a good three months easy, mainly because no one understood or listened to me when i was trying to explain my problem. people just look at you crazy. your boyfriend was with you when it happened and he would probably be very understanding. really it sounds like he has been. i can see where him being the perpetrator in this instance may put him off limits in the talking section of things but he had a part in your experience too and probably feels terrible now for making you feel that way then. sounds to me like he loves you very much so he's probably a little embarrassed for freaking out on you. point is, this would fuck with somebody if it'd happened to them sober. you were altered so you were even more vulnerable, and though you may see no end to this feeling you're having now, this will not affect you for the rest of your life. no one told me this, and i think that drew it out a lot longer for me. i thought my life was changed and honestly it's still not the same, but i learned from it instead of furthering the depression it put me into. just keep your chin up. i can tell from your post you seem intelligent, you gotta guy who loves you enough to swallow his pride and tell you he was wrong to say what he said. abusive relationships can destroy self esteem as i'm sure you well know. but there's no reason to let it affect you if you're current boyfriend isn't abusive. that part of your life is over. embrace this fact, embrace yourself. you're awesome. you'll be straight given a little time. promise. if you need anything pm me.
 
I just want to say sorry this happened to you. He should never have broken up with you during the trip, no matter what his feelings were. That was totally irresponsible and thoughtless on his part (although I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that his trip overwhelmed him and lead him to put good sense aside).

I wish I had some advice other than that you'll need to deal with this a lot and with time I'm sure it'll get better. I can't imagine how awful that must have felt while on a psychedelic. It's totally normal that it would be affecting you this much. Hell, it would be normal to be shaken up from that even if you hadn't been on 2c-e.

Good luck, I hope you can tackle this one quickly. With time you'll be back on top.
 
to the OP;

your boyfriend is a cold and heartless person to put you through such a negatively intense emotional situation as a breakup while tripping. If it were me i would not be able to stay with a person who attempted to break up with me no matter what the circumstances. Especially if it happened while tripping. I believe that tripping puts us in touch with our truest rawest feelings because it tears down our ego and sense of emotional self preservation. The fact that he was willing to go this route with you while tripping signals to me that it will come up again. If i were you I would empower yourself by breaking it off with him. He is obviously selfish and heartless if he would say and do the things he did in such a selfish way while you were both tripping. Personally i would not trip again while you are in this vulnerable emotional state and I would seriously think twice about ever tripping with him again.

I hope things work out for you, I believe that if you were to move on from him and begin dating other men you may find one that makes you happy. I would abstain from tripping with any boyfriends until you are sure you are in a solid relationship that is emotionally supportive.

Perhaps also it is worth taking some of what he said into consideration. Is your life going somewhere? Do you have plans for the future other than tripping and using drugs? Either he is a mean spirited person or there is some bases for his feelings. Either way it was cold and heartless to bring it up while tripping. It sounds to me that this is a volatile relationship that is on its way to being emotionally abusive like your last. I think you should cut your loses and move on before you suffer another emotional break at the hands of this man.
 
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Even if he was in a state of extreme confusion; its still a very thoughtless and mean thing to have done; please, please don't blame yourself; I understand the insecurity's and fear this must've brought and you shouldn't put yourself through it; he did this to you and he had no right to do so; it was incredibly inconsiderate of him :(
 
yeah truly terrible. one time my dad caught me and a few friends tripping me and another friend were on lsd and dxm, and the other was just on dxm and he took way more than us and threw up. Of course he couldn't clean it up and it was my house so I tried but oh my god it was hard and I did a bad job. My dad has always hated throwup and he had to get ready for work and just yelled at me for awhile, before he just left for work without a shower. I told him later in the day what happened, and he used to trip alot when he was younger and he apologized for what that must of been like. The weird thing is it wasn't really that bad I was too happy. BUT i have had situations closer to yours and a little xanax and valiums help me in the mean time until I was ok in my own skin again
 
He seems confused, keeps asking me what's wrong, as if I am supposed to be fine with it by now - which makes me feel more self conscious and immature.

I think this is a sure sign that he was really not actually paying attention to YOU at all during the trip. If he doesn't understand why you're still feeling the fallout from this event, then he "wasn't really there" ... by which I mean, he wasn't really talking to YOU when he broke up with you, he was talking to an IDEA of you that he had in his head at the time. If he understood what he said to you (which he doesn't because he's still talking to his idea of you), he wouldn't be confused and he'd probably feel significantly worse about it.

All this means that he is really just not connecting with you directly as a person, and his decision to break up with you while tripping is probably due to his realization (as a result of tripping) that this is true. After the trip wore off he seems to have returned to obliviousness concerning his inability to understand your emotions.

My advice is to break up with him and do your best not to remain entwined in his life afterward. Treat him as a friend, but don't give him everything that you did before this incident. If he learns from this mistake, that's good, but you can't allow your own emotional stability and happiness to depend on him doing so (because from your post it doesn't seem likely that he will fully learn any lessons from this), so I'd extricate myself from the situation as soon as possible if I were you.
 
I can't imagine how terrible that must have been for you. Getting dumped is hard enough as it is... but while you're tripping, my god.

Whether you dump him or not... I hope things get better for you. You don't deserve those feelings.
 
I understand why this affected you so deeply.

You have every right to take the time you need to heal. Don't allow your friends or boyfriend to bully you into feeling that you should have rebounded already. You can tell them that you work with your heart's time frame, not their expectations about how you "should" feel.

I first felt angry at your boyfriend for doing this to you, but then I realized that he was probably really having some sort of panic attack, and may have had little choice. If you could forgive him, it would probably lead to a stronger relationship.

That said, personally, I would be really, really careful about tripping with him again.  Ever again. Maybe in about 5 years, if all else is going well...

I would also try to share with him how you feel. Maybe showing him your post would be beneficial. If he understand better about your feelings, I doubt that he would expect you to have recovered already.

Experiencing the threat of a break-up while sober can be devastating, but on psychedelics , when everything is magnified, it is easy to understand how it was especially horrible.

Please forgive me if I'm wrong, but you sound like you need some work in the self-esteem department. This sounds like a nice chance to demand respect, and therefore gain self-esteem.
Anyone who requires that you recover based on their time frame is not really a friend (or, at least, is having a lot of trouble imagining what you went through). My advice is to demand the respect of being allowed to recover based on your time frame. If it takes you a month, so be it. If it takes 3 months, that is what you require.
You might need to explain how you feel - you did so beautifully in this original post, so allowing close friends to read it might be a good option. Anyone who understands how devastated you feel but refuses to grant you sufficient time to recover before demanding that you be back to normal is not worth your time.

Sometimes, horrible trips take months or even years to recover from. Please do yourself the favor of taking the time necessary - but no more. Keeping the wound in order to gain power is one tactic abused and otherwise powerless-feeling people sometimes use. It will not serve you in the long run.

Above all, respect yourself, and others will (begin to) respect you more.

Best of luck to you, and blessings.
 
sorry to hear about this.
This may sound stupid at first, but the combination of two major factors (tripping, and being broken up with) can combine to make a major 'life changing event' , even though it was shortlived. I would suggest that you actually have some PTSD. Im totally serious.
It can effect ppl from war, ppl who see domestic violence, etc. etc.

I think of course like everyone else said, you will get over it, but you ought to address it this way - as having experienced a profound stress, and try to help yourself that way, without dramatizing it.

Also, unrelated, but reading your post - do you think you might have a little bit of a codependency issue with him?
 
the joys of a bad trip. has anyone ever heard of a perma-trip? its a trip that you never snap out of! be careful.
 
to OP: im sorry to hear about your experience.
I wish i knew what to say to help you.

Experiencing something like that while in the vulnerable position tripping puts you in can leave you feeling a little disturbed for a while.

How has your bf acted since then? If hes acting normal maybe it was just some temporary psychosis type thing where he said sme things but they werent based in reality.

I wish you the best. <3
 
You were in a really open, psychedellic state and were exposed to some intense emotion, that experience is now in your repotoiure of feelings.

but just because it happened doesnt mean you have to dwell on it. Social lives hurt alot especially if your not perfect. But time always helps you stand on your own again
 
psych's can make you say and do some stuff you really dont mean.




give it a few days for the trip to "flush" out of your psyche.
im sure you'll be fine hun
 
I wanted to post a reply, I have been a bit caught up in my life.

Thank you for all of your replies. I ended up showing him my post later the same night I made it, and we talked extensively about what happened. I forgive him, which I really had already done - the pain was still there but I know how trips can be, especially under stress, and I knew he wasn't really being himself.

Since then everything has been... excellent. My trust in him has been restored, and I took the chance of tripping with him again, which solidified this. We were close and comfortable together during the whole trip and he made me feel renewed and normal again. In sober moments he made sure to stop me when he saw me digging myself into a hole of self-mistreatment (something I am sometimes prone to) and has made me appreciate myself as a person a lot more. I knew I had to talk to him further about it initially, but talking here first gave me the courage to do that. I'm happy to say that we are back to the way we were before and on a personal basis I am happier with myself than I have ever been. I also took what he said as an indication that at least a few of my own self-noticed flaws are a little too noticeable, and began enacting change. I've been bettering myself but without the usually included side of self abuse, and I can already see myself being happier because of it.

Thank you all so much. I really appreciate that you seemed to care about my situation and it helped immensely to have somewhere to vent my feelings.
 
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