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acqv1

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hello. i am 15. only three months ago i got drunk for the first time, it seems like it has been years. just a couple days ago i almost overdosed on cocaine. i am finally starting to see that it isn't a good thing. the drug has changed my view on everything. i no longer see things as fun as they were. i have some friends that could easily be pulled into hard drugs. what advice could i give them to stay away. to stay pure? they don't yet understand that they can still enjoy simple things. i don't want them to feel what i feel. i wish i would have at least waited.

thanks to all.
 
I took feel your pain. I started off as most adolescents do saying I'll never do this never do that then a year passes by and you look up your sitting down ripping the bong. People can tell you not to do something until they are red in the face but you'll have to make your own experiences, walk your own path before you see the truth in there words. Offer them some advice but don't hate the sinner hate the sin and love the sinner.
 
Hey acqv and welcome to BL :)

Pretty amazing that you are seeing things from this vantage so early on.

Hope you did not take SB post to harsh as it has a great deal of value. If you are able to see this at your stage, then your a very bright person with significant intuition. What i propose next could seem harsh.. drop the people who continue to go down this path until they work themselves out, many won't but a bunch will.

Roll the way is best for you<3 and get out. I know it sounds selfish but its not.

If you are driven towards helping people then take it up in manor that has the potential to help the masses.
 
Hey acqv and welcome to BL :)

Pretty amazing that you are seeing things from this vantage so early on.

Hope you did not take SB post to harsh as it has a great deal of value. If you are able to see this at your stage, then your a very bright person with significant intuition. What i propose next could seem harsh.. drop the people who continue to go down this path until they work themselves out, many won't but a bunch will.

Roll the way is best for you

i understand what you all say. but i am not yet done with the drugs. i know that they are 'bad' but its started and it wont stop. do you still do drugs as a mod in sober living? it seems many people on here only take certain drugs every so often and they stay stable. i'd like to be like that but its all so easy to get absorbed into. another thing is that i've noticed just about everyone that does these drugs has some excuse. their family is ruined or they had a shit childhood- it makes me guilty that i have no excuse. i started out of boredom and i will not get out. i probably sound pretty ignorant haha.. i just dont know what to do anymore or how to feel.

thanks for your words.
 
i understand what you all say. but i am not yet done with the drugs. i know that they are 'bad' but its started and it wont stop.

There are some interesting concerns around this. The likelihood of developing an addiction increases significantly when a person begins using drugs early.

People who have never had an addiction do not know what a misery it ends up being. People who have never been addicted seem to think that people become so enamored with a pleasurable feeling that they can't stop doing this pleasurable act.

This couldn't be farther from the truth.

In addiction almost all of the pleasure effects of the drugs are gone. There is an illusion they still remain as people are required to take them to experience a state that is acceptable. SO in other words people end up taking the drugs in order to feel 85% as good as they would 95% of the time had they never used and we fail miserably at even achieving this.

The unconscious part of the brain controls motion and mood. This is how it manipulates the conscious brain to do its bidding. Its bidding in an addicted individual is to drive the use of the drugs. So it sends all it manipulations at an addict. It sends shame, guilt, depression, anxiety, hopelessness, fear, anger, resentment, jealousy, etc etc etc.

It also sends fantastical "memories" of drug use. These never happened really, but it sends memories of amazing experiences.

So imagine yourself stressed to a human breaking point, thinking your the biggest pile of shit on the planet, utterly hopeless, and pissed as you can get. Then imagine a little voice in your head saying get high. Every reason you give it not to use, it just chews on and spits out as a justification to use. As it whispers it send daydream fantasies of amazing things that never happened to try and convince you to use.

It makes you misserable and then taunts you with images of heaven. It even fucks with you in your dreams. Using dreams are experienced by addicts.. LOL at the name as no one ever gets to use.. The manipulation will let us get all the way up to using and then something crazy goes wrong to prevent it.

Like your about to drink in the dream and the bottom of the cup falls out. Or you're about to do a line of coke and the plate falls off the counter. Or your about to shoot up and the cops break down the door and arrest you and make fun of you.

But you're never going to touch a needle right? Wrong.. you would be amazed at how quick that idea changes. Not many people say hey im going to choose to be a IV drug user. Its just the natural progression.

I had an amazing childhood.. I'm very bright.. I have lived a privileged lifestyle.. im educated.. All these things have really nothing to do with addiction in the end. Sure a hard life or terrible experience can drive people to look to drugs to find relief, but in the end it just comes down manipulating the mesolimbic reward pathway.

If this is done enough or even in a strong enough way one time then addiction happens.

The drive to eat is hunger. The drive to drink is thirst. The addictive drive to use a drug as drug addiction.

We can choose never to eat, but we can't choose never to be hungry. We can choose never to drink, but we can't choose never to be thirsty.

We can choose to use drugs, but we can not choose never to become addicted. If we become addicted we can choose not to use the drugs, but we can't choose never to jones or be driven to use them.

The Brain and Addiction

Addiction Guide

At your age I would seriously consider putting off any drug use for a later time. To say addiction is rough is the undersell of the century.

If I were you knowing what I know I would consider shelving the drugs for a few more years.

Since you do not plan on doing this then I would really completely avoid three right off the bat.

Alcohol, methamphetamine, and opiates.

These drugs suck and totally ruin many many people.

I would really be very leary of the coke esp since you already OD?

I would avoid any and all "research chemicals" like the plague.

If your going to use drugs then please acquire a test kit so you know what you are taking. So much crap and dangerouse bunk shiot out there and yeah one dose can and will kill.. we see it all the time in the drugs in the media forum here on BL. Just because your friend tells you its all good, yeah does not mean it is.

Like I stated before I would put off using, but if you're going to choose to use then I would make yourself as aware as possible of harm reduction and try and avoid all the harm you can.

Hopefully you don't think i'm being harsh. I just wanted to share some hard fought knowledge i earned and learned the hard way:)

Whatever you do be smart, make sure your informed, and choose to be safe. <3
 
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