Advice on Mallinckrodt generic oxycontin 80mg

[bigbillybear]

^^

False, mallie OC ER does in fact gel up.

I suggest parachuting 30mg or so for a nice high.

Bros,

So true, get them all the time...

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[bigbillybear]

This method does work well. I used to use it frequently on the dreaded TEVAs. Moisten the pill and rub off the colored coating. Grind/shave the pill with a hose clamp, or just crush *very* fine (Mortar-and-pestle or w/e), pour into a small bowl/glass and add the juice of 1-2 lemons or limes. Wait at least 4 hours for the acid to break down the gel like stomach acid would do if the pill were taken according to the manufacturer's directions. Then drink. I got best results if I left the solution sit for at least 8 hours.

I haven't had to deal with the Mallies but I had to deal with hundreds of the nefarious gelling TEVAs and I was satisfied with the above method. Or I'd remove the coating, grind with a hose-clamp, then parachute them.

I didn't see an answer to a previous poster's question about what parachuting is. Someone's probably already consulted Urban Dictionary but just in case… parachuting is putting powder into a rolling paper or piece of toilet paper (ugh), then twisting the paper up to make a little bomb-shaped package and swallowing. For the bomb-shape, think (or Google image) Pop-Pops, those toys that snap when you throw them at a hard surface. Or siu-mai. If you parachute enough pills you'll gain some good dim-sum technique.

Parachuting provides quicker onset of the drug and keeps the powder from sticking in the mouth, which is helpful if you're swallowing a powder that gels. I hate those little blobs of gel sticking to my teeth. I use rolling papers because I prefer the texture over that of toilet paper.

Bro,

Thank you for that info as I've had to get these when the pharmacy is out of namebrand... Ive hated it if I had to maybe take a forth of one and chew it up when needed and had the gel actually stick to my teeth... You have just given me some very valuable info, thanks and good karma your way bro...

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[always1unknown]

I didn't want to start a new thread on these Mallinckrodt 80s so I'm hoping I can get my question answered here. I thought all the companies making generic OCs had stopped making them and only Purdue was making OCs. When my buddy picked up his script today he got the Mallinckrodt ones instead of the of the usual Purdue ones. So my question is...is Mallinckrodt the only company thats still making generics?

 

[sponger]

I'll be the second person in this thread to confirm that the lemon juice method is for real. I used to dissolve my Mallin morphines in a shot glass with lemon juice and I'm pretty sure I got 100% of the good stuff from those wretched wax matrices. In fact, after a good 12 hours, the pills become transparent blobs, completely devoid of their eurphoria-inducing contents.

As for brand vs. generic, my pharmacy was giving me Mallins for a while but then switched to purdue a few months back. My guess is that you got the generics because that pharm had some left over. I really don't know.

 

[Swishertoke213]

Mallis are OK, if you snort or iv i understand why you would prefer the "og" 80s but ive found that when it comes to smoking or eating these are exactly the same. from what ive seen and experienced the m596 smoke slower and arnt as harsh as the oc80s. id suggest taking a quarter orally then smoking the rest through out the day.

 

[PillPoppingAnimal]

Id take 60 mg CWE hydro hits 4 times a day over 80 mg hits oxy 8 times a day ANY day of the weak

other way around bud

 

[SteeleyJ]

They gel like a motherfucker, i did not like these. The only way i'll even pick these up is if they're cheap as shit, cause eating them whole seems the best way to take these. Even crushed and eaten i felt like i got about half of the whole dose IR and half ER.

 

[rjoh8930]

this extraction method is great to kno. i get the malli morphines all the time but they usually collect dust cause even if you chew em up they dont do much, you gotta chew like 4 or 5 and even then its not very intense. on the other subject i remeber when the first generic oc 80s(the oval football shaped green ones, i forget the numbers on em) came out friends and i agreed there was very little rush or high compared to the purdues. however when i was hard up a friend offerd to get me a generic oc80, like i said i was hard up and bored, when i got it it was a malli and i was pissed cause ive had the malli morphines before and if you snort em they just stick in your nose like concrete and there is 0 high. but to my supprise the high was just the same as a name brand purdue! so thats my experience id buy em again.
I do not shoot though and im sure youd probly run into some problems there as they made these new pills this way to deter or make very hard to snort or shoot or misuse and abuse.

 

[rjoh8930]

has anyone ever used a similar extraction method for fentany patches. unfortunately they are getting away from making the gel filled resivoir type transdermal patches. duragesic the name brand maker of the patch has recently changed over from the gel resavoir style to the matrix style(flat like a nicotine patch,no gel just addhesive containg the drug, like a laced piece of tape) very similar to the mylan generic patch.

at first i was really pissed but there is an up side to these new patches. ive yet to figure out why but they contain way more fentanyl than the old gel patches or any of the generics for that matter.for example a 75mcg/hr patch used to have 7.5mg of fentanyl per patch both gel type namebrand duragesic as well as the generic mylan matrix patch(like i said the mylan patch and the new duragesic are the same matrix style, flat, non gel patches.)however the new duragesic matrix patches now have 12.6mg of fentanyl per patch!!!!!????? thats almost double! all i know is that one of the new patches lasts me alot longer than one of the old patches did!!! you can translate that yourself.

sorry to change the subject just curious if anyones tried something similar with a patch and sorry 2 ramble, im kinda jacked on my buddy apache

 

[rjoh8930]

uhmm

i would say if you just sucked on the pill for like 2 seconds and just swallowed, you would feel good ALL DAY a good 8 hours.

or i would just divide it into 4 sections, and chew up the little ones first, then move on to the bigger ones later.

anymore questions feel free to ask. I HATE mallis, but its all i can get right now =[

this is a big misconception. im not sure if this is what he meant but for the record so everyone knows: the colored outer coating on any time release pill has nothing to do with it being time released. if you took off the coating and ate it whole it would be the same as just popin the pill straight up. it is the actual pill itself or i should say the density of the pill, they are formulated to dissolve slowly over the intended 12 hours.

I cannot believe how many times i have heard that dumbass shit even from people whod like to think of themselves as big users. think about it people if you could easily lick or peel off that coating how would it stand up in your stomache for 12hours.

sorry, i re read your post and im not sure if intended to say just suck on it for 2 seconds and swallow meaning by sucking on it for the 2 seconds would remove the coating thus bypassing the slow release. i dont mean to beat up on anyone at all its just as i said ive heard this from to many people and not newbies either so i just wana set it straight so people kno whats up.

 

[[RF]]

I got the mallinckrodt OC80's this month. Usually i get brand name with my script, but pharamcy was out of brand, although they didnt tell me, and I noticed it when I got back home. These are about the worst OC generics you can find. Which is suprising as the other Malli opiates (roxicodone, etc) are pretty good.

The delivery system is what is different. The mallinckrodt use a delivery system that is based on the pill turning into "gel" once it is consumed, known as HVLCM High Viscosity Liquid Carrier Material. Doesn't matter if you crush and parachute it still turns to gel and diffuses\absorbs as controlled release. Also, I routinely take as directed and notice a huge difference between brand. The Malli seems to last a bit longer, although barley noticeable. But when taken as directed it take hours to really become effective at helping with my pain, and seems to be much less potent. Again, this has to do with the delivery system they use and some of the newer controlled release products use.

Below is a post i put up on the Oxycontin Mega Thread, it has some really good scientific info and studies down on various ROA and ways to defeat the time release.. Interesting is coke-cola, based on the study/patent seemed to have the best extraction rates.. Would love some feedback on this method note sure if others have tried. Should work with any Opiate with binders that cause it to "gel" upon contact with water.



Extraction of Generic Oxycontin - Abuse-Proof
mallinckrodt has generic Oxycontin on the market and i ended up getting these on my last fill. Usually i get brand or watsons, but I thought generics for OC had been discontinued, of course i was wrong..

Anyways after researching tons of ways to defeat the time release (Crisping, A/B Extractions etc), I found an interesting patent that defines exactly how the Gel mechanism works. Known as HVLCM High Viscosity Liquid Carrier Material which is also functions as the controlled release mechanism.

While long it does provide objective scientific evidence on many of the extraction methods discussed. what is interesting is the method that yielded the best results after 60 minutes was extracting in coke-cola, at 60C, fairly hot. This yielded about 40-60% extraction.

i would expect a sloped curve in terms of extraction, meaning first hour you may see 30-60%, but leaving for 5 hours wouldn't mean 100%. Considering most other methods are 1-10% (Microwave, Crushing, etc) this isnt too bad. The remanning unextracted portion would still be metabolized just as controlled release.

Of course DO NOT INJECT COKE-COLA, or any pills for that matter. There are other threads on that subject, but for oral ingestion of any type of opiate, using a filler that gels on contact with water the following process seems to work. I havent tested on all, but Mali Oxycontin, Teva, and Opana have had good results, better then all the other methods I have tried.

1. Microwave hole pill for 60 seconds
- Note: This will remove moisture and make pill easier to grind.

2. Crush the entire pill, with the outer shell
- Note: Data seems to indicate that outer-shell may contain ingredients that aid in the absorption of the active ingredient, the good stuff.

3. Use 250ml or a shotglass filled 2/3rd of the way with coke-cola

4. Heat in microwave for about 30 seconds, it will heat quickly so watch it

5. Mix powered pill with heated coca-cola

6. Stir

7. Let sit for 90 minutes if you can, 5 minutes at-least..

8. Drink


Suggest while letting it sit to stir periodically and try to keep temp around 60C. Microwaving in short burst of 5-15 seconds should do the trick.


Expect anywhere from 40-60%+ to be extracted, which isn't that bad considering the alternative. Also the extracted coke-cola solution isn't as disgusting to drink as opposed to vinegar, lime, water, crisping and some of the other crazy methods I have seen..


I am very interested to hear what others think about this.. MODS: Please let me know if this is in the appropriate thread\forum..


Reference Article: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/ja/ia.jsp?...1&DISPLAY=DESC

Reference:
Household Solvents..

"when exposed to extraction in saturated baking soda solution at 60° C for 5 minutes, the dosage form releases less than about 15% of the opioid, preferably less than about 11% of the opioid; (1) when exposed to extraction in a cola soft drink at 60° C for 5 minutes, the dosage form releases less than about 45% of the opioid, preferably less than about 30% of the opioid; (m) when exposed to extraction in 100 proof ethanol at 60° C for 60 minutes, the dosage form releases less than about 33% of the opioid, preferably less than about 26% of the opioid; (n) when exposed to extraction in vinegar at 60° C for 60 minutes, the dosage form releases less than about 33% of the opioid, preferably less than about 20% of the opioid; (o) when exposed to extraction in saturated baking soda solution at 60° C for 60 minutes, the dosage form releases less than about 33% of the opioid, preferably less than about 23% of the opioid; (p) when exposed to extraction in a cola soft drink at 60° C for 60 minutes, the dosage form releases less than about 60% of the opioid, preferably less than about 45% of the opioid; (q) when exposed to extraction in a panel of extraction solvents including vinegar, hot tea, saturated baking soda and a cola soft drink, each at 250C for 60 minutes, releases less than about 20% of the opioid, preferably less than about 15% of the opioid; (r) when exposed to extraction in a panel of aqueous buffer extraction solutions ranging from pH 1 to pH 12, each at"


Microwave..
"As can be seen by these extraction results, only 4% (1.6mg) or less of the oxycodone dose was extracted from the microwaved Test Capsules after 5 minutes of extraction in each of the extraction liquids. After 60 minutes, only about 14-10% of the oxycodone dose was extracted in any test liquid. These data show that the Test Capsules resist rapid extraction or dose dumping"

Smoking/Chasing (very bad for you, and not efficient at all)
"Test Capsules and the single lot of SR Control tablets were evaluated in triplicate. Each Test Capsule was cut open and the liquid contents squeezed into a sample dish, and each SR Control tablet was ground with a mortar and pestle and then transferred to a sample dish. The aluminum block was stabilized at 2800C prior to initiating the study. The covers were swabbed for oxycodone at 3, 5 and 10 minutes, and the samples were analyzed using HPLC. The results of the volatilization study were as follows: average oxycodone recoveries following volatilization at 2800C (data in the form of mean oxycodone recovered with standard deviation (SD), reported as a % of initial dose): Test Capsules = 2% (0. at 3 minutes; 4% (2.1) at 5 minutes; and 12% (2.1) at 10 minutes. SR Control tablets = 12% (2) at 3 minutes; 11% (2) at 5 minutes; and 10% (2) at 10 minutes. These data are depicted in Figure 19."

Chewed: Increases absorption rates, but does not defeat time-release/anti-abuse mechanism(s). Peak (plasma levels) decreases from about 4 hours to 2 hours by chewing. Coke-Cola extraction process described above accomplishes the same a chewing, i.e. powering the pill. So roughly 40-60% of the total dosage will be effectively the same as instant release, peak less then 1 hour with remaining 40-60% absorbed the same as chewing.
"As can be seen, vigorous mastication (chewing) of the OXY Test Capsules increased the mean Cm3x from 40.5 ng/mL to 82.3 ng/mL. However, relative to the IR Control oral solution, the C1112x for the chewed Test Capsules was significantly lower and occurred at a significantly later time. The mean T1113x for the chewed OXY Test Capsules decreased from 5.52 hours to 2.67 hours, as compared to 1.07 for the IR Control oral solution."

Bio Availability: Oxycodone: Very good orally, 85-95%
"inally, the relative bioavailability based upon the AUCiast of the three 80mg Test Capsule formulations (OXYl- OXY3) was very good (>80%, ranging from 83.39% to 90.27%"

 

[charmcity.exile]

Best thing to do is chew them until they dissolve. It is best to do this with your front teeth as there is less for the pills to stick to. Definitely have a tooth pick handy. Then wash everything down with a carbonated beverage. The carbonation helps the drugs get into your system more quickly.
As far as "parachuting" is concerned, I think that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of anybody doing. If you can't handle the taste of a frigging pill, then don't get high. Really...
Also, mucus membranes absorb most drugs, and if I am not mistaken, your gums and the lining of your mouth does as well. So, you should get some absorbtion there.

 

[SteeleyJ]

As far as "parachuting" is concerned, I think that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of anybody doing. If you can't handle the taste of a frigging pill, then don't get high. Really..QUOTE]


I think there is a very valid point for parachuting ( although with these malis it doesn't seem to help much ). If you chew, it's alot easier to miss a chunk of the pill, which then stay extended release inside your system. When you parachute you grind it all down to powder with a hose clamp or pill crusher, and then swollow. Although i don't ever use pieces of paper, i just lick it off the surface i'm using.....i don't see the difference really, or the problem, with people doing so to avoid an unpleasant taste.


Peace,
SteeleyJ

 

[[RF]]

I think there is a very valid point for parachuting ( although with these malis it doesn't seem to help much ). If you chew, it's alot easier to miss a chunk of the pill, which then stay extended release inside your system. When you parachute you grind it all down to powder with a hose clamp or pill crusher, and then swollow. Although i don't ever use pieces of paper, i just lick it off the surface i'm using.....i don't see the difference really, or the problem, with people doing so to avoid an unpleasant taste

I agree on the parachuting, I have found using a gelatin capsule, the ones vitamins come in that you can empty, or buy empty ones at GNC work pretty well. Grind with hose clamp and put the grinded powered in the empty capsule. Although, since I started experimenting with the coca-cola method I have noticed a big difference... Would love some feedback on this, might just be in my head, but evidence does support this method..

Be safe..

 

[ericmm1331]

I came across a few of these today, and was surprised to find out that they are actually a generic form of Oxycontin. I was unaware that there were any generics available on the market these days. The pill imprint has an M on one side, and 596 on the other. Through looking on the net I've determined that these are Mallinckrodt 80mg Oxycodone Controlled Release.

My question is what is the best way to consume these? I've never taken Oxycontin, but have taken 15-25mg of hydrocodone (Norco) on a near daily basis for over a year now. So I have somewhat of an opiate tolerance, albeit not a large one. Would it be dangerous for me to just swallow this 80mg pill? Is that even the best way to take it? Should I crush it up? Snort it?

Thanks guys, I'm just new to Oxycontin, and there is very little info out there about this generic specifically. Just want to make sure I do my research before trying these out.

if i were you i would just take it orally cause some of the generic oxycontin gels up in your nose and you only get %20 to %30 of the actual oxycodone

so unless you find out if those are ones that gel up in your nose just take them orally or if your comfortable on plugging then do that.

Plus OxyContin has about %90 bio availability when taken orally. i dont know what the ba of it is nasally or in the bum i just know the oral BA

 

[dannyboy2225]

After 11 years of vicoprofins,xanaxs,oxycontin 40s and80s,,,parastoltic distress,sulfer dioxide indegestion,heartburning in the diaphram area from chewing all these meds,,,,,,,I found it best to takem by container instruction.if you really have the pain to warrant the taking ,the less the better,,,,,,,,,drugs can be a time-waster and a distraction to miss things that are important in this short life,,,,,,,thanx

 

[grafitti]

i have been on oxy for 10 years this does suck , i am prescribed 2 x oxy 80 's every 12 hours , i have a high tolerence to say the least , the one thing i am noticing is they want u to avoid alchol ,almost demanding it now , could that be the trick to making them instant release jusd add alcohol , just a thought because my pharmicst was very adament that i would make sure not to drink , more to the point with these op 80's then he ever eas with the ocs , there is a way to beat plastic , i also have a pharmist friend i am gonna bring him one to see what he can do , its freakin stupid why send people to junk at least with oxys people got a measured dose and they worked so well for pain , these new ones are not as effictive , i decided i would wait and get them in my system for 4 days just to see its been 4 days and still do not have the kick of the old ones , someone should drown one in grain alcohol and see if plastic goes away and oxy remains or would this also kill the oxy ?

 

[Sam228]

better yet, sell the motherfucker for 80 bucks a pop and you can buy a shit ton of hydro/heroin/morphine-any good opie fuck that oxy[/QUOTE]




I gotta agree with this!

 

[oxycontinent]

I agree with the writers who suggest chewing the new oxycontin OP formulated pills, especially with your front teeth, because the new gel like ingredients won't gum up so much on your front teeth, but tend to do so on your back ones. Try to chew as much as possible to reduce the pill to as many "bits" as you can, before washing everything down with a carbonated beverage of your choice.

This has proven to me to be the most effective means of bypassing the gel components designed to defeat immediate release of the synthetic thebaine, the opioid which not only erases the severest pain, but renders a peaceful state of mind for several hours.

One thing to be careful of however: Try not to chew TOO hard, which can cause excessive wear on your front teeth, possibly even a chipped tooth. Chew as gently as you can while still getting the job accomplished. Again, the MORE pieces you can chew the OP pill into, the better the intended effect for you. I am only speaking from very personal experience, and agreeing with the other writers who espouse this same method for opiate extraction from the new and diabolical OP formulation (Evil!), the above guide being the easiest, least cumbersome or time intensive; likewise - being highly, HIGHly effective.

Peace, to All! And Happiness!

Long Live Altered States which Make Us a Kinder, Gentler Human Race.

And finally: NEVER allow reality to interfere with an awesome hallucination.

XOXO,
OC ("OxyContinent").

 

[TheLostBoys]

Could you possibly put the pill in a pill crusher & then place everything in a glass of carbonated soda & let it sit for a while & then drink it.