Advice Needed For A Friend!

Xtc <3

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Hello everyone I have come here to ask for help as I really dont know how to help my friend or what advice I should give him, I have no idea what he's going through and I thought maybe someone on here might, help is very much appreciated! :)

So here's the story I recieve a text yesterday from a friend saying : I smoked 5-MeO-DMT 12 hours ago, I died and now I cant function.
I have no credit so make my way back home to speak with him on msn.

Apparantly he smoked a 7mg dose of 5-MeO-DMT and now he seems to me to be a little mentally unhinged, at first I thought he might be suffering from depersonalisation as I suffered from a case of that for about a month after smoking salvia.

He told me some of the symptoms matched but he's not sure, some of the things he was saying have really got me worried and I dont know what to do, he said he hasn't gone to work as he doesn't know how, he doesn't want responsibilities, he wants to go 'back there' he wants to die.

I asked if it was an effect of the 5-meo and he says he doesn't think so he has felt like this for as long as he can remember it just seems different now.

Im just going to post random things he has said from my msn chat log:

i think i may of been like this for a while, would exsplaine why i feel i have no controle over my body at times, as if it doesnt belong to me.

i allow feelings to go over my head at times, not realy feeling happy or sad, then at other times my emotions burst into my mind, and i feel almost everything at the same time, ill say sorry but continue to do the same thing, as if i know what im doing but cant act apon it.

i feel like takeing more 5-meo-dmt or something psychedelic, I dont want to come back. I'm not sure I want to die, im not sure of much, I feel like im already dead.

How can I go to work when I dont know how to, im going to hurt my mum and I cant help it. I advised going to a doctor asap and he says he doesnt know how.

i feel like doing psycotic things at times, like hurting others or myself, allthough i often picture myself smashing somes face into a wall or something, for a long while have thought ive been going a little mental, I tried to tell my mum but she wont believe me.

i dont trust doctors, i feel all they will be intrested in is wether i can work or not, and they will do wat ever they can to get me back in work.

He also mentions that he has been referring to himself as a different person for quite some time, referring to himself in the third person if you get what I mean.

I realise this is quite a lengthy post but I really could do with some advice im really worried about him, what should I do?

I can most probably convince him to post on this thread and talk to someone on here who has more of an idea what he may be going through and can offer help.

Thank's in advance to anyone who responds, much love <3
 
Hi Xtc, if your friend thinks that he is an immediate threat to himself or anyone else (e.g. his mother...did he mean he was going to physically hurt her, or emotionally hurt her??) he must take himself to an Emergency Room right away. It sounds like he is experiencing a lot of anxiety and some other alarming symptoms, which can be treated if he gets himself to the ER.

The main thing that he MUST NOT DO is take any more recreational drugs, especially psychedelics. Please try to make sure he understands that if he takes any more psychedelics, he is only going to feel worse, it is NOT going to solve his current problem.

Seeing as it's been nearly 12 hours since you posted this, is there an update on the situation? Have you spoken to him recently?
 
Hi N3ophy7e! *waves* I have spoken to him since yeah but only via msn, I forgot to mention he meant hurting his mother emotionally not physically with his actions, I think he feels out of control of his life atm, he hasn't gone to work for like the past 2 days and hasn't bothered to ring in with an explanation of some sort. I already told him to not to take more psychs, but im afraid that its a possibility that he might go ahead and do it anyway. I spoke to him briefly earlier and now cant get hold of him again.

Some convo log again,

i never even phoned them today, i was awake way before time, i could not phone them, right now i am playing eve online ide rather forget about anything real... "real".

my dad has offered now for me to go for a drink with him, he sed surely i can handle a hug, i cant realy bring my self to text him, he could make me feel stupid, im not sure i want to get "better". i think life will being me more grief and suffering in the long run.

i suppose im blocking out my life, there is so much beuty in the world, it makes me cry, we are only animals, good and bad are in us all, good and bad are just concepts, there is no such thing, all order must turn to chaos, we are nothing but the universe itself, we are not the decission makers.

And thats all I managed to get from him, oh apart from the dose may have been slightly higher, there was apparantly residue left from a previous hit which he estimated would be about 10mg for the total hit, do you think its a direct effect of the 5-MeO-DMT that will fade in time or something else, he says he suffers from anxiety attacks that have that he has been experiencing for sometime that come out of of nowhere, he has also commented on being really scared at whats currently happening to him.

I will try and contact him and explain the emergency room option being in his best interests asap. But what do I do if he says he doesnt want to go to the hospital or says hes cool? Should I take his word for it? I havn't actually seen him irl so I dont have much an idea of his state of mind although he certainly doesnt seem like the same person he was a few days prior through msn, what are the doctors likely to do him if he goes to E.R?

Cheers for the help, cant thank you enough <3
 
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Thanks for the update :) <3

The ER option is really only suitable if he is wanting to commit suicide or cause harm to other people, and/or having symptoms of psychosis. It doesn't sound like he's either of these things so ER is not really a suitable option for him. Which is GOOD! :)

It sounds like he's having a really bad comedown. It's very unlikely that he's caused any permanent psychological damage so it's important for him to know that he's not going to feel this way forever, and that with time and support he will feel normal again. He could continue to feel really lousy, pretty much the way he's feeling now, for a couple more days. But he should then start to see gradual improvements in his mood and thoughts. If he's really concerned he should see a doctor.

I'm not sure if it would help him to look at it from this perspective, but the brain is just like any other muscle or organ in the body. When we take drugs we are working our brain overtime, causing it to release much higher levels of certain neurotransmitters than it usually does. So when the drug wears off our brain is literally completely exhausted. This is why he is feeling so down and not his usual self. BUT the brain is fully capable of restabilising itself back to its normal healthy state if we take care of it after the abuse we do to it from taking drugs. If he takes good care of himself, eats healthily, drinks plenty of water, gets lots of good quality sleep every night, and exercises a few times a week, he should be feeling fine in no time <3
 
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