Stimulants adderall withdrawal...

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if you can get your hands on it, injectable hCG completely reverses amp withdrawal

 

[graffmatic730]

noti

 

[rakketakke]

You guys must be joking, right? It's too early for April Fools. Sorry, I'm really not trying to be condescending, but these dosages you guys are taking are hard to fathom.

I mean, come on, 450, 250, where does it end? Do you guys realize what you're doing to your minds and body? Let's pretend that you're being honest in how much you're taking (450 is an out of this world dose....I truly don't believe it), but for the sake of argument....Are you just looking to get a high from the drug and nothing else? Are you actually trying to use the drug to work, study, etc? If you skyrocket to doses like that, your tolerance will never recover. You will never be able to enjoy the drug unless you cut back on how high you're dosing.

You guys really need to slow down. These drugs might be medically accepted but they are just as harsh on your body as any other drug if you choose to abuse them. Please PM me if you have any questions. Don't let this spiral out of control as it sounds like it already has.

Cheers

Pure hedonistic pleasure along with compulsive redosing and not achieving the expected euphoria because of weird mechanisms in amphetamine tolerance. Those doses aren't too weird to some

 

[dildonian jr.]

yeah my tolerance is unbeleiveably high, cause of my prozac and abilify and klonopin

i took 290 in one day/night and i was rolling
good day, i can also sleep on it, i slept good that night too.

i got a super tolerance now because of my plethera of pills

im on 150 mg vyvanse, 40mg prozac,2mg clonazepam,5mg abilify as i speak.

 

[OpiYum]

i experienced complete and extreme lethargy, listlessness when i stopped adderall this spring. i thought it was PAWS from opiates. I always think all my problems are opiate related. And when more opiates didn't help, I thought my tolerance was fucked bc I was taking alot back then.

I never suspected it was Adderall bc I didn't even take it everyday and usually not more than 40mgs at a time IR. But when I got a prescription filled and popped 1 pill, I could finally get up and do things. It was amazing and I never thought some bit adhd pills at such a small amount could affect me so terribly.

If your dose is so high, why not try another adhd drug, sometime i build tolerance to adderall and switch to ritalin or something similar. Just like with benzos - if I stop feeling xanax, I switch to valium or kpins. Imperfect cross tolerance I guess, esp with ritalin and adderall since they act two different ways on ur receptors.

 

[OEandricearoni]

Taking 90mg of Adderall daily, even only for a couple months, will almost certainly cause you to experience withdrawal effects whenever you stop taking it (unless you slowly tapper down your dose, of course, & even doing that won't guarantee that you'll feel absolutely no symptoms of withdrawal)... Adderall withdrawal doesn't cause physical illness the way Heroin withdrawal for example does; however, Adderall withdrawal does include physical symptoms (increased sleeping, increased appetite, etc.) , as well as many psychological/mental symptoms which can be quite serious & a cause for concern with people who go from taking significantly large amounts of Amphetamines to taking none at all.

Adderall withdrawals include things like more sleeping and increased appetite.....honestly this sounds to me like if anything that's just your body going back to normal. Considering taking adderall greatly reduces your appetite and causes insomnia...

 

[HTTx]

The only thing that helps me with Adderall W/D is eating some hydros, oxys, etc... and sleeping my ass off. I am alot less 'twitchy' if I do this.

 

[MissArielLauren]

^^ same here

 

[MissArielLauren]

I felt as though I really couldn't get out of bed. I had NO energy and slep for basically 2 days straight. It was kinda like an opiate withdrawl, minus the pain. But the oxy's got me right back on my feet in no time.

 

[DexysMidnightRuner]

when i went through w/d off of 200mg daily to feel normal the best thing to do is just sleep. the exhaustion will suck but imo the depression what the worst part. there really isnt much to take to get over w/d faster. mainly its mostly mental. taking opiates will help but not in the long run. amps are the type of drug you just gotta stick it out. the physical part will be gone within two weeks, maybe three. but the mental part is the worst, it can last for months. im still a little messed up but i think i did permanent damage. its best to not be on anything else when going through w/d because its better to be as mentally stable as you can be..well then actually maybe smoke some buds haha. buds, sleep, maybe some xanax here and there, and food. just watch how much you eat because you can gain mad weight back if you binge too long. oh and try and hang out with people. isolation can make depression worse. even if your just sleeping in the room with someone. trust me it helps

oh and the heavy breath thing is a bad sign. technically its a symptom of OD but when your taking a high dose a lot of normal body reactions for you is described as an OD ha. if that happens, try and cut your dose down, or take it easy for the next few days. dont be doing strenuous work. left your heart calm down as much as it can..

 

[MyDoorsAreOpen]

i experienced complete and extreme lethargy, listlessness when i stopped adderall this spring. i thought it was PAWS from opiates. I always think all my problems are opiate related. And when more opiates didn't help, I thought my tolerance was fucked bc I was taking alot back then.

I never suspected it was Adderall bc I didn't even take it everyday and usually not more than 40mgs at a time IR. But when I got a prescription filled and popped 1 pill, I could finally get up and do things. It was amazing and I never thought some bit adhd pills at such a small amount could affect me so terribly.

If your dose is so high, why not try another adhd drug, sometime i build tolerance to adderall and switch to ritalin or something similar. Just like with benzos - if I stop feeling xanax, I switch to valium or kpins. Imperfect cross tolerance I guess, esp with ritalin and adderall since they act two different ways on ur receptors.

Hey OpiYum.

I also have found adderall to be one ruthless bitch in the way it toys with my head for WEEKS after I've last used it. It really manages to convince me, or rather, I always manage to let myself be convinced, that the amotivation, negativity, and jaded feeling isn't a direct bodily and mental consequence of adderall use and then cessation.

My hat's off to the many people I've met who've used adderall and never crashed. I honestly believe some people can do this. I'm also sure I'm not one of them.

 

[verso]

I have no idea what to make of my experience with Adderall. I first started taking Adderall when a friend gave me some to try. (I started with Adderall 20 mg XR.) I loved being able to get my work done quickly, and, surprisingly, the work that I produced was good, real good -- excellent, even!

Then, I got a prescription from my family doctor for Adderall 10 mg XR, and even taking just 1 of the 10 mg XR would light a fire under my ass and motivate me to get all of my work done. It was like super-human motivation and capability.

I took 10 mg every day but very rarely on the weekends, and then slowly after a few months I switched back to taking 20 mg when the 10 mg wasn't cutting it anymore. At this time, I also began to notice the terrible side effects. I lost 15 pounds from my healthy weight of 135/140 lbs. (I am 22 years old, male, 5'9" and I have always been thin... but 120/125 lbs was a little too thin, even for me.)

Also, for whatever the reason and despite not grinding my teeth, my jaw began to pop and click whenever I opened my mouth and moved my bottom jaw from side-to-side.

Long story short, I finally gave up on taking Adderall. The highest dose that I ever took for any extended period of time (maybe a couple of weeks) was 30 mg XR.

Now, I feel like I am not nearly as motivated as before. I feel stupider and I feel really, really lazy. It has been months since I have taken any Adderall, and even still I sleep all of the time, and now I eat constantly. I don't know what my problem is -- depression, maybe?

At any rate, this leaves me with a million different questions: Is it possible that I could really be ADD and not have known it all this time? Have I damaged my brain? Am I really less intelligent now than before? Is is possible to experience withdrawal symptoms even months after discontinuing the Adderall? By taking the Adderall when I did not need it, have I actually caused myself to become ADD?

EDIT: Sorry, man, I didn't mean to hijack your thread.

 

[motiv311]

I've been off my Adderall for 10 days now.... actually today's my first day back on.

I work at a ski resort, and gotta be there at 5:30 AM everyday. So when I quit the adderall, I started going to bed at 7pm everynite. I started to feel "good" .... actually really good ... right away. I'm more like myself , and I care more about the meaningless work I do. I take pride in it.

Its strange how something so pleasurable as adderall eventually just hurts you more and more ; and feels less and less as you remember it.

Just popped 30mg ir and 25 mg xr.... roads closed to work .... But seriously... just take long breaks ... the withdrawals aren't so bad if you have ppl around. Just a little "funk"

 

[Poppydog]

Man im starting to have second thoughts about this dex script ive just been given after reading all this. I fulfil like 90 percent of the symptoms list for hyperactive adhd and dex works great to motivate and focus me....but how long can I use it consistantly? I actually havnt been taking it every day as I struggle to sleep as it is but when I dont take it I feel sore and tired most the day...and tomorow I am hell looking foward to taking a little more than my prescribed dose and tweaking out.

If the shit does this to me after a couple of weeks Im sure it could be a lot worse over a period of time...That said man does it help me focus and feel great.

Because of my prior experience with various drugs I am very cautious towards regular (daily) use of anything even when prescribed. If I believed what the doc said about this shit ("nonaddictive","very mild") and was clueless about pharma I would probly be hooked real quick. Conversley if I had mentioned I had any knowledge on pharma he would prob not script me. Well he might not script me cos from what I can see he is pretty loose with the pills.

 

[exoticnarcotic]

Some good ol' fashioned crank should do the trick.

 

[vvViolet]

Now, I feel like I am not nearly as motivated as before. I feel stupider and I feel really, really lazy. It has been months since I have taken any Adderall, and even still I sleep all of the time, and now I eat constantly. I don't know what my problem is -- depression, maybe?

granted, every person is different, but i doubt that your Adderall use is the culprit here. in addition, you were taking it at a rather mild/moderate therapeutic dose with weekend breaks. go see your psychiatrist is the best advice i can give.

At any rate, this leaves me with a million different questions: Is it possible that I could really be ADD and not have known it all this time?

it's possible. try to remember when you were younger and see if you can recall exhibiting any ADHD symptoms. if so, it's something worth talking to your doctor about.

Have I damaged my brain?

no.

Am I really less intelligent now than before?

no.

Is is possible to experience withdrawal symptoms even months after discontinuing the Adderall?

yes. but, as i said before, the dose you were taking was very average. in your case, i'd say this is highly-highly doubtful.

By taking the Adderall when I did not need it, have I actually caused myself to become ADD?

no. you've either had it since you were a child or you don't have it at all.

 

[verso]

granted, every person is different, but i doubt that your Adderall use is the culprit here. in addition, you were taking it at a rather mild/moderate therapeutic dose with weekend breaks. go see your psychiatrist is the best advice i can give.



it's possible. try to remember when you were younger and see if you can recall exhibiting any ADHD symptoms. if so, it's something worth talking to your doctor about.



no.



no.



yes. but, as i said before, the dose you were taking was very average. in your case, i'd say this is highly-highly doubtful.



no. you've either had it since you were a child or you don't have it at all.

Thanks for the reply! It's strange, man. I have been around the block once or twice before with opiates and with benzos, but for whatever the reason, my experience with amphetamines has been the most confusing. I love the feeling that amphetamines give me more than anything else, but the side effects are so disheartening; it's like the party's over, everyone is gone, and you are left to clean up the house before your parents come home.

I don't want to discourage anyone from responsibly taking amphetamines, but I would be extremely careful before experimenting with an ADHD medication like Adderall. Then again, I have been told more than once to be careful taking pain killers recreationally. Two years later, and not once have I ever experienced withdrawal symptoms, cravings or dependency of any kind. So, different strokes for different folks, I guess. Eh?

 

[benzico]

Yer your gonna have no enegy for awhile but coming off long term amp use is pretty much a walk in park cas at least you can just eat and sleep loads and after few days your be feeling right as rain.

 

[motiv311]

decadence... instant gratification...... over-indulgence..... gluttony..... Amphetamines.

 

[SpunkySkunk347]

Some people were asking about dosages, and I'd just like to give my 2 cents:

The first time I ever took amphetamine, I took 60mg of adderall, which gave me intense euphoria. I had to step it down after that. A few days later, I only took 40mg, which still caused fairly intense euphoria.
For a while, 20mg was a comfortable dose for me... then after a while, I had to take it back up to 40mg. Needless to say, my dose kept rising.

At one point, I was taking about 180mg at once, but this was just painful really.

Now, (I've been using amphetamine for something like 2 years) I've managed to figure out how amphetamine tolerance works with my body. I take 30mg (of adderall XR), wait 30 minutes to an hour, then take another 30mg (before the first 30mg kicks in). Then, an hour after I start to feel it, I take another 30mg.
By doing this, I have a comfortable high that lasts for hours, and I minimize the negative body load (although it is still going to be present at any dose).

Amphetamine tolerance works very differently from other drugs such as opiates. Your brain is very clever, and subconsciously realizes a correlation between the feeling that amphetamine gives and the skeletal muscle damage, vascular damage, and neuronal damage that amphetamine causes. Your brain actually rewires itself to turn off neuronal pathways that are in charge of producing pleasure

Sometimes, your brain goes to great lengths to avoid the damage that amphetamine causes, and will begin to make strong negative associations between whatever it is you are currently doing while on amphetamine and feelings of dread/terror/dysphoria -- almost like the movie A Clockwork Orange (where Alex can no longer listen to Beethoven's 9th symphony without feeling like he's dying).

Some of you may have noticed that you reach a point of amphetamine tolerance where "taking more" simply does nothing other than increase the negative physical effects.
There is almost a certain "ceiling effect" - where your body simply can't handle any more amphetamine, and no more positive effects can be produced. I'd say that this "ceiling dose" is about 120mg-200mg - depending of course on the individual, and how healthy they are.

Strangely (and no amphetamine user would say this doesn't hold true), it takes less amphetamine to achieve desired effects the healthier you are (the more sleep you have had, the more nutritious you eat).

You can also reduce your amphetamine tolerance psychosomatically (but be warned, amphetamine tolerance can also be increased psychosomatically as well)