adderall in high quantities - help?

[goddamnitlauren]

hi... just signed up here because i haven't been able to get any worth while feedback online.
basically my situation is that my friend's mother is a doctor and i am prescribed generic adderall 30 mg twice daily. i am 110 lbs. i don't have add, i just like the buzz (she doesn't know this, thinks i want to make the most out of my insurance co pay, so she gave me twice what i "needed" with refills)
so needless to say i've been having a speed holiday for about 2+ weeks, taking anywhere from 30 minimum, and more recently, 120mg.
I also take Welbutrin 150 mg daily.

My tolerance is at the point where it's so high that the dose i took yesterday (120) barely gave me a buzz (though even at the moment I can feel my heart beating hard). It leaves my muscles aching like I ran a fucking marathon and i feel totally empty and apathetic towards everything.

I'm starting a new job, I'm in a new area... It just never seems like a good time to stop. But I'm going to today -

Has anyone experienced trying to stop taking this high of a dose? Cold turkey or taper off? I don't want to take this stuff everyday. I don't want to have a tolerance, I just want to have it around for nights when I want to be really creative.

-sidenote, i exercise almost daily, take a daily vitamin and omega-3s. i have a script for xanax 1 mg.

Will it really be that bad, or am I just assuming that because the few hours after the come down seem like the fucking apocalypse?


help?

 

[Jager336]

Adderall comedowns are notoriously bad, and it requires a similar amount for me to feel much of anything, I can say that it will probably suck, that's one of the reasons I don't like and will rarely even take Adderall. You have the Xanax and a benzo will be your best friend coming off amphetamines. I don't usually recommend tapering off though when somebody is using them to get a buzz (no offense, I'm guilty as well )because taking a little often leads to taking a lot in that case, the crash will come one way or the other to some degree so I recommend getting it over with.

Again your Xanax will be your best friend. Best of luck! It is definitely worth it don't let yourself think it isn't.

 

[goddamnitlauren]

Thanks for the feed back... everything I searched for on google was like "hi, i take 20 mg for ADD and I don't know what to do if I taper off...". It was making me feel really bad. hahah
Do you think that tapering would be better mentally? Or maybe a higher does of Welbutrin until I feel more balanced?
So many drug cocktails. I took seroquel to sleep last night. I just want to be on my basics again without feeling like my brain is totally depleted of dopamine (... but it is)

thanks again

 

[Legerity]

Are you able to set a side a few days without any responsibilities where you can sleep as much as you need to? To me at least that would be the optimal way of doing it. If I've been using a lot of speed even for a few days it can take me a week or so to feel right.

You can reduce dosage over time or just cut down to a much lower dosage immediately if you're capable of sticking with the the schedule that you set for yourself rather than taking more. I'm not really sure how well a gradual taper with amphetamines would work to be honest. They don't have the type of withdrawal you would get from opiates or benzos. But as said above it's not always easy to take less less if you have more laying around.

So if you don't want to be using daily and you are able to just cut it out immediately that may be optimal. And then if you find that too difficult you can try something else. It really depends on you and what you're most comfortable with. Let us know how you're doing

If you've felt depressed in the past after quitting amphetamines then you may feel the same way again. If you prepare for this and make a plan for dealing with it (social support, therapy, etc.) it can help you avoid saying "fuck it" and giving up

 

[goddamnitlauren]

Also, by comedown I don't mean the immediate hours afterwards so much. Those are definitely bad, but I'm referring to the general feeling of depression for the following weeks.

 

[goddamnitlauren]

Coffee? Xanax? 5-HTP? L-tryosine? These are all things I have, I just don't want to go overboard in a "fuckin help just fix me now" kind of way. I can take a little bit of edginess, but I work at Whole Foods full time and it's not exactly the most accepting environment for anything but EXCELLENCE. the yuppies have to have their smiles.

 

[Jager336]

Thanks for the feed back... everything I searched for on google was like "hi, i take 20 mg for ADD and I don't know what to do if I taper off...". It was making me feel really bad. hahah
Do you think that tapering would be better mentally? Or maybe a higher does of Welbutrin until I feel more balanced?
So many drug cocktails. I took seroquel to sleep last night. I just want to be on my basics again without feeling like my brain is totally depleted of dopamine (... but it is)

thanks again

Also, by comedown I don't mean the immediate hours afterwards so much. Those are definitely bad, but I'm referring to the general feeling of depression for the following weeks.

I understood what you meant by comedowns, no worries.

As Legerity said withdrawals are not so much a problem with stimulants as they are with opiate/opioid and like medications, so you have that in your favor. As was referenced with regard to depression, that will be your toughest challenge I think, your brain will effectively need to 'relearn' how to produce adequate dopamine, etc. on it's own. I find that setting aside at least a day for nothing but sleep and general lazyness is quite helpful, and also doing your best to clear your schedule of too many things for a few more days afterwards, since activity will be more difficult than usual as you function on your regular adrenal levels. It generally takes around a week for me before I start feeling like myself again.

Edit: saw the above post. More drugs to cover up other drugs' withdrawals can be a bad thing if expectations are too high, just don't be afraid to take a dose of Xanax if you feel inclined because if that feeling builds up you may find yourself reaching for the Adderall as opposed to the Xanax.

 

[Legerity]

If you need some coffee to function it can help but it will also keep your body stimulated and prevent it from getting as much rest as it could without stimulants.

Are you taking xanax daily right now or on occasion? With using any benzo I think the best policy is to take the lowest dose possible as infrequently as possible.

I don't know enough about those supplements to suggest anything. I've tried both of them and neither really anything for me, although it was not for coming off of amphetamines.

 

[Jager336]

Thank you for clarifying the Xanax, I edited my post too.

Definitely only take a dose if you need to, for sure, and I made the [possibly wrong] assumption that you were taking a full Xanax tablet when I don't know what you take. My fault. I'd recommend only taking it if you need to, but definitely the lowest effective dose and if it can be done without it you would feel better. The mental addiction especially, of stimulants is very difficult to overcome, I wish you the best.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Wellbutrin doesn't mix with amphetamine very well. Choose one or the other.

 

[goddamnitlauren]

I don't take xanax everyday, or in any frequency. I took a mg yesterday at work to counteract the total panic i was feeling from the 130 mg adderall comedown. god, what a stupid situation to be in.

i know that welbutrin doesn't mix well with adderall. at the moment it's not really a "choose" one or the other situation or i would. i take wellbutrin for general anxiety and depression. i take adderall because i like taking adderall. i want to stop taking adderall because it's becoming maintenance instead of recreation.

thanks for all of the feed back... i think i'm going to see how it goes and take small amounts in the morning to even it out. i'm thinking that maybe it won't be as much of a shock for my brain if i do it that way...

 

[itsok]

i think you have a good plan. ppl react to adderall w/d differently. i will have no motivation for weeks, and no even realize it is from lack of adderall and think it is from lack of opiates. then if i take a bit of adderall, i am all better. then from there, i taper and have been ok from there, having done it like this at least 3 times this year.

So, best of luck. And im glad u realize that maintenance for drug taking sucks if u dont actually have to take it. So, it looks like u learned an important lesson.