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Adderall Day 1, EXSTASY DAY 2

I'm not going to read this whole thing (because I have adhd-i) but I know that you won't get drunk as hell if you're also on adderall.
Tolerance goes through the roof, you won't feel a thing (and its possible to suffer alcohol poisoning due to the "not being able to feel how drunk you are" thing)
Don't take add on day 1, then xtc on day two.
Just roll the second day
 
Congrats on making the decision to slow down- I hope you go through with it, as slowing down has helped me and many friends tremendously. I know a lot of people on the forum are concerned about you. I don't think it's beneficial to be outright mean/nasty to you about it.

In my experience, stimulants (Aderall (sp?)) tend to lessen the "upbeat" effects of MDMA, as a lot of your energy seems to be used by the Aderall.

My own plan to is drink moderately and wait until night time to roll at EDC. I'm just doing one day...I highly, highly advise against rolling two days in a row.

can you expand on reasons not to roll two days in a row. i will be in a similiar situation at EDC. thank you
 
The roll on day two tends not to be particularly effective, given the slow speed at which serotonin replenishes in vivo. Additionally, we would expect a severely exacerbated hangover and neurotoxicity.

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Congrats on the job Master Splinter :)

It's good to hear you're taking measures to care for your health. Those of us who resort to drugs do so for many different reasons, and anyone here judging you for what you do to yourself is not justified in doing so IMO.

To answer the question: there's a pretty well known study where methamphetamine was found to be cross tolerant with MDMA (at least in rats; Zacny et al. Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior
Volume 35, Issue 3, March 1990, Pages 637-642; MS you can PM me if you want me to send you a pdf). The effect is not likely to be large. I have personal experience with amphetamine and MDMA being used over a short period of time and did not notice a profound attenuation of MDMA's effects. It would probably be more noticeable to someone with a lower MDMA tolerance, since if you're already taking large amounts of MDMA to get high, the cross tolerance might just seem like part of your regular tolerance.

Taking large amounts of adderall can make you feel pretty cracked out however, and if anyone is to attempt taking MDMA immediately after adderall they should get some rest in between and supplement with L-tyrosine to help replenish DA levels. Personally I would be more worried about the effects on the heart, since maintaining an elevated heart rate over a period of several days is quite stressful on the body (especially if dancing/doing cardio intense activities).
 
hang in there man, it will be alright, after ecd take a break for a while, and start playing a sport maybe or working out, it's a great hobby, really helps get the stress out. As for the negative comments, that's not right, we need to help each other and not disrespect, show some plur, it's just not at raves, relate it to your real life, we all need to be there for each other bottom line because life can be a bitch
 
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