Stimulants Adderall and Alcohol cures me of hangovers????

[camjua]

Hello! I only recently started taking this combination. I actually just recently started taking adderall period. My friend gave me some so I snorted 5 of the 10mg Adderall IR blue pills. I did this over a period of about 10-12 hours. I also in the very beginning popped 2 30mg Adderall XR. I started drinking and it seemed no matter how much I drank, I wouldn't get drunk. But keep in mind, normally I am a pretty big light weight. 5-6 beers is enough to make me very sick and be pretty wasted. I drank..about 15 beers over the course of time.

Normally, I get SUPER hungover when I drink in excess. If I even get to the point of spinning, I start to panic because I will usually end up camping a toilet for about 4-5 hours dry heaving and wishing I would die lol. Even mixing alcohol with cocaine never saved me from a morning of praying to the porcelain gods.

Here is the strange part. I drank that much alcohol.. and was totally tweeked out of my mind. Talked a billion miles an hour, hardly felt drunk.. stayed up all night.. clenching teeth etc.. no hangover. None. Nothing. No headache, no nausea.. nothing. I thought it must be a fluke.. I waited 2 days to go by to give my body some time to rest.

2 days later, snorted 40mg IR over a period of about 8 hours and drank 8 mixed drinks.. vodka.. each having about 2 shots. I was twacked out, same thing.. talking a mile a minute all over the place etc. This time I did feel the effects of the alcohol. Felt relatively dizzy at moments.. could taste the vodka on my breath etc. Didn't fall asleep till 7 AM... woke up 3 hours later. No hangover. Nothing.

Is this common? I've searched online and people claim the opposite. That adderall makes their hangover worse. When I say no hangover I mean.. nothing!!! I get so sick so easily and normally alcohol destroys me.. with adderall I am able to drink easily double what would normally make me sicker than a dog and literally feel nothing besides slightly tired in the morning.

Only thing I hate about the combo, which is actually probably just the adderall.. but my teeth hurt sooooo badly the next day. That and my sinuses.. I decided to parachute from now on but I plan to take another break.

So point of topic just a few questions:
1. does adderall prevent hangovers for anyone here besides me?
2. does anyone else have the brutal jaw aching and tooth aching? (I know that amphetamine salts are of course going to cause teeth clenching but mine seems worse than what others report.
3. Adderall with SSRIs? Can abusing Adderall while taking an SSRI cause serotonin syndrome like MDMA? I don't take an SSRI but my doctor said she may prescribe me one soon. (Escitalopram).
4. When I stay up all night amped on adderall and drinking, I do feel heart racing.. jitteriness.. teeth clenching. I have an arsenal of psychotropics. Would zyprexa, seroquel ,trazodone or Hydroxyzine help with sleep?? Those are the only downer medications I have. I don't have any benzodiazepines (i wish) but your guys' suggestions on which of those would probably help the most I would greatly appreciate it!!

Thanks for any advice

 

[anniegram]

I'm the same way. Adderal makes me hangover proof.

 

[Tommyboy]

This combination is pretty horrible for you. Drinking on adderall never prevented me from feeling hungover, but I have used adderall to fight through some hangovers.

The problem with this combination is that you will soon not want to do one without the other, hence giving you a cross-addiction. Be careful and always stay hydrated. Drink plenty of water before and after using these substances, and take vitamins regularly. As for the jaw clenching, that's pretty common and all I can say is to take less. However your tolerance is going to begin to grow so you will find that your current dose want make you feel as good anymore, and the side effects will probably lessen too.

The key is to not chase that high anymore, but instead take long enough breaks to allow for the same dose to continue getting you where you want to be.

 

[camjua]

Thanks! yeah I was thinking the same thing about taking a break. I feel it is kind of the same with MDMA. It's best when taken infrequently imho.

I have to admit, the reason I also don't want to get carried away with this combo is I tend to get very strung out and unlike MDMA or coke where I constantly remind myself to drink water (I usually keep a few vitamin waters with me for those occasions) with the combo of adderall and alcohol.. I completely forget and am so driven, strung out and all over the place I do worry that I would hurt myself by either taking too much and overdosing (since the more adderall I do, the more I want to drink.. and vice versa) or I would become dehydrated and have an issue with that. I'll take your advice to heart! Cool Annie, glad to know I'm not the only one haha.

 

[Nicholai]

AFAIK, meth got a foothold as a popular drug in the bar scene...people would do a wee bit, and it would allow them to keep drinking and keep drinking and keep drinking.....

It's fun yeah, but once you truly overdo it on speed and alcohol, and have a stim comedown with a alcohol hangover at the same time....it's absolutely horrible. I don't think adderall making you bulletproof from hangovers is bound to last, IMO.

 

[sekio]

So point of topic just a few questions:
1. does adderall prevent hangovers for anyone here besides me?
2. does anyone else have the brutal jaw aching and tooth aching? (I know that amphetamine salts are of course going to cause teeth clenching but mine seems worse than what others report.
3. Adderall with SSRIs? Can abusing Adderall while taking an SSRI cause serotonin syndrome like MDMA? I don't take an SSRI but my doctor said she may prescribe me one soon. (Escitalopram).
4. When I stay up all night amped on adderall and drinking, I do feel heart racing.. jitteriness.. teeth clenching. I have an arsenal of psychotropics. Would zyprexa, seroquel ,trazodone or Hydroxyzine help with sleep?? Those are the only downer medications I have. I don't have any benzodiazepines (i wish) but your guys' suggestions on which of those would probably help the most I would greatly appreciate it!!

1. Adderall is pretty well known for making people able to drink more and get less fucked up. It's also established that amphetamine can act as a painkiller in some situations due to its norepinephrine release. Wouldn't surprise me that it make your hangover feel better. It's probably not good for your body though. Amphetamine puts a lot of stress on your body to produce all the energy it can, so you will likely consume a lot of alcoholic calories and comparatively few vitamins or nutrients in a pub setting.
2. You and everyone else who uses stimulants. Jaw aching/tooth grinding is a sign your dose is too high. Make sure to have some xylitol gum. (Xylitol and other stuff like hydrogenated starch hydrolysate is good for your teeth!)
3. Why are you gonna go on a SSRI? Partying too much and pushing yourself can cause you to feel drained and depressed, you do realize. This seems like a pharmacological band-aid in lieu of actually fixing your problems.
4. All of those medicines will help knock down the amphetamine.

If you're using amphetamine recreationally, you shouldn't bother with antidepressant therapy. You're not going to make any progress there if you take recreational stimulants. SSRI therapy is just a band-aid over a bus sized hole in the Hoover Dam of your mind for that, stimulants will do a serious number on your emotions. Make life easier for yourself by not doing drugs that cause you to burn all your energy and then crash.

 

[camjua]

Thanks for the advice I should establish a few things.

I've only abused Adderall all together 3 times in my life. All 3 times were relatively recent.

In the last 2 years I have done cocaine about 4 times..and MDMA 3 times. No other stimulants besides caffeine and nicotine.

We were considering an SSRI treatment because so far none of the atypical antipsychotics have worked for me. I am diagnosed borderline personality disorder and bipolar II. I've tried ziprasidone, olanzapine, quetiapine, lurasidone, aripiprazole and clozapine. Ziprasidone , lurasidone, aripiprazole and clozapine caused horrible akathisia.. quetiapine and olanzapine only slightly improved mood but caused weight gain.

I am currently taking lamotrigine (300mg), hydroxyzine(50-100mg) and quetiapine(200mg).. but as stated I've been on my psychs case about not taking the quetiapine because I've been gaining weight even with exercise and diet.... but I definitely do realize that stimulants worsen depression and make you feel relatively shitty for a while after use. I do enjoy them for recreation though. I had about half a g of cocaine that I've had for a few weeks.. and I still have quite a bit of Adderall XRs and IRs .. and some vyvanse. (the adderall and vyvanse are not prescribed).. I haven't taken any stimulants since about 2 days ago.

Having BPD, I've been treated for the past year and a half with very little progress. This is why about 5 months ago I started drinking and doing drugs again. Mainly for fun purposes though. Adderall and alcohol was an awesome mix so I wanted to make sure I was doing it right.. which I'm gathering.. I need to reduce my intake of adderall when I binge, take vitamins and stay hydrated. ;P

Its 2 days later and my teeth are still killing me lol.. and I should comment that I do drink alcohol frequently.