Adderall advice needed

[noble6]

I'm going to make this very to the point, and I will answer questions if asked.

I am perscribed 15 mgs of Adderall/day, but (without really over doing it, I guess) I do use abusively. Lately Iv been experiencing none of the benefits, but increasingly worse overdose symptoms. It used to be if I took too much, Id talk too much, shake too much and sweat too much.. now if I make that mistake, my lower pelvic area begins to severely hurt, I get trouble breathing, and signs of heart problems(?) such as tingling left shoulder/hand, hard to breathe, and severe disorientation and paranoia.

I have easy access to Neurontin and Propanolol..which symptoms would these help the most in? Is there a large enough difference to notice? What are other key things I can do to reduce the negative side effects (aside from the obvious, dont take as much..which Il already follow)?

I am taking generic brand. Although I have read online that there's a staggering difference between generic and regular, my attempt at finding regular for these 3 months was ruined when a pharmacist assured me it;'s exactly the same thing and blew me off.

Any advice or insight is greatly appreciated. I find this to be a critical issue. Thanks!

 

[Korn3x]

how much more are you upping your dosages?

and are you drinking caffeine as well?

i find with adderall, it's best to avoid taking it with any kind of stimulant. for me, this means no caffeine within 8 hours before i dose, or 8+ hours after. if i take caffeine too close to when i dose, i'll experience bad side effects, such as tightness in my chest sometimes.

also make sure to stay well hydrated, drinking lots of water frequently

 

[delta_9]

I am taking generic brand. Although I have read online that there's a staggering difference between generic and regular, my attempt at finding regular for these 3 months was ruined when a pharmacist assured me it;'s exactly the same thing and blew me off.

Your pharmacist was right of course...well, for everyone except a chemist that is. Let me explain, the amphetmaine in generic addreall is chemically the same as that in brand name. The only differences are the isomers of the amphetamine molecule and/or the counterion the molecule is bound to. Some people do note real physiological differences(for example some people may not be well equipped to deal with sulfate compounds), however it's negligible and often ignored in the world of medicine/pharmacy as the pharmacological effects remain largely the same.

 

[Depressicaa]

I have not had much difference between brands besides Corepharma being the worst. Propanolol would help the most. Did you perchance switch from Vyvanse 40mg?

 

[kazanokizu]

i dont think this is exactly what you asked for but hope it will help. I found drinking 2 decent size glasses of gatorade (from a mix not prebottled) a day made me almost not crash at all. I dont know why and neither does any doctor i asked aside from the hydration thing, but you would think that would wouldnt be the whole crash. Also this is on 20-30 mg of IR generic or brand name.

 

[GamesNDrugs]

how much more are you upping your dosages?

and are you drinking caffeine as well?

i find with adderall, it's best to avoid taking it with any kind of stimulant. for me, this means no caffeine within 8 hours before i dose, or 8+ hours after. if i take caffeine too close to when i dose, i'll experience bad side effects, such as tightness in my chest sometimes.

also make sure to stay well hydrated, drinking lots of water frequently

DO NOT drink Caffeine with Adderall, do not snort it.. Believe it or not the Generics are actually stronger and less symptomatic of headaches than the brand name.. Take 1 pill at a time on an empty stomach if you want that little buzz and take another later during the day, you're putting too much stress on your body and it can't handle it. Also make sure you're eating enough food regardless of how hard it seems..

Alternatives to Coke/Dr.Pepper/Pepsi etc is Fanta, it's caffeine free and it's a soda if you have to have one. I'll say again, do not snort them unless you want to puke your gutts out when you run out of medication from the withdrawal of self dosing. You're a human being not a machine, more isn't always better, specially in stimulants.

Vyvanse is complete trash, do not purchase this medication expecting an effective alternative to Adderall, not only is it EXPENSIVE, it's ineffective, took this for 3 months and felt no different from the time I took it till the time it wore off..

But if all else fails you can do what I did when I was eating 3-4 20 mg's a day, get prescribed Xanax and eat a couple after your finished, mellows you out and gets rid of the restless/rip out your hair/I can't think while walking or else I'll fall down feeling..

 

[Violenza666]

Do you have anxiety problems? How much adderall are you dosing at a time? I abused it ALOT in high school because I was scripted an UNGODLY amount due to my mother being a complete psycho and throwing me on ritalin in kindergarden... which turned into dexedrine then later adderall. I stopped doing it and sold it to kids at school.. but I never had that shit happen to me.. The ONLY thing I can think of that was similiar was a cocaine overdose. You should probably give your body a rest. Your body is telling you something, listen to it.

 

[GamesNDrugs]

Do you have anxiety problems?

Stimulants cause anxiety, especially Methylphenidate and Adderall.. Like I said in my previous post, go bullsh*t your shrink and get him to perscribe you some Xanax, get the generic Alprazolam, it's 5 bucks for 60 of them.. Take 1-2 depending on how bad you're feeling after your Adderall crash.. All the people are gonna try to make some huge ordeal out of this when it's simple. All stimulants will cause a crash, try what I said and I bet you will thank me.. I was in your EXACT same shoes so I know how it goes..

Look at any stimulant with this perspective, what goes up must come down.. What goes up with Adderall must come down with a dufflebag full of bricks attatched to him/her.. Methylphenidate, instead of the dufflebag full of bricks, try a mid size truck.

 

[Violenza666]

Stimulants cause anxiety, especially Methylphenidate and Adderall.. Like I said in my previous post, go bullsh*t your shrink and get him to perscribe you some Xanax, get the generic Alprazolam, it's 5 bucks for 60 of them.. Take 1-2 depending on how bad you're feeling after your Adderall crash.. All the people are gonna try to make some huge ordeal out of this when it's simple. All stimulants will cause a crash, try what I said and I bet you will thank me.. I was in your EXACT same shoes so I know how it goes..

I have scripts for benzos meds.... are you talking to me or the OP?

 

[GamesNDrugs]

Talking to the new guy, I'm new myself but I have TONS of experience with all kinds of stimulants cause I've been taking them since I was a fetus..

Eat a Benzo or a Vicodin after you're finished and you'll feel fine.. Although I don't condone supplementing one problem with another you put yourself into this mess by self-dosing, get yourself out of it..

 

[Violenza666]

Talking to the new guy, I'm new myself but I have TONS of experience with all kinds of stimulants cause I've been taking them since I was a fetus..

Eat a Benzo or a Vicodin after you're finished and you'll feel fine.. Although I don't condone supplementing one problem with another you put yourself into this mess by self-dosing, get yourself out of it..

LOL me too. My mom did coke when she was knocked up with me

 

[GamesNDrugs]

My advice, go start working out.. You shouldn't feel like being ADHD is a curse, it's not, you're one of the smartest people on the planet and thinking that you have to eat tons of stimulants to cope in society is complete BS.. It sucks cause I'm going through a whirlwind of emotions and uncontrollable feelings cause of my experimentation with stimulants and effective bypasses for the downward spiral afterwards. I suppose I'm being a hypocrite but there's two ways out, the high road that you read on those Yahoo posts, or your own way out. Never ask for advice from others, figure out what works for you and what doesn't.. I just know that your situation is very similar to mine and I almost ruined my college career because of self-dosing.