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Add years through diet

StagnantReaction

StagnantReaction

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How to add the most years to your life through your diet

Step 1: Stop consuming dead animal flesh [most important]
Step 2: Stop consuming all animal products
Step 3: Stop consuming trans fats
Step 4: Stop consuming processed sugars (high fructose corn syrup)
Step 5: Stop consuming foods containing hormones [Step 1 & 2 is 90% effective for this]
Step 6: Stop consuming foods containing pesticides [ " ]
Step 7: Create a distilling apparatus to create your own pure H20 supply.
Step 8 Stop consuming foods containing GMO (genetically modified organisms)


Willing to debate. Additions and corrections welcome.
 
Non-organic vegetables are likely to be more responsible for pestcide levels than meat products.

Pure water? What exactly is wrong is spring water?
 
In my opinion its too hard to live by such strict guidelines.
Its a thing of give and take, of balance. Its good to live by whatever healthy guidelines you feel fit, but I personally find trying to eat such a drastically strict diet isnt worth the stress. You could go to all that trouble and end up getting hit by a car at 30. To each their own I guess.
 
Step 1: Stop consuming dead animal flesh [most important]
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I don't see how moderate fish/white meat consumption is detrimental. What are your problems with it specifically? (not trying to be contrary, I just haven't seen alot of bad news about that type of meat)

Step 2: Stop consuming all animal products
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Again, what is the main problem? Is it bio-accumulative toxins you're worried about?


Step 3: Stop consuming trans fats
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Totally agree. There is NO need to consume it.

Step 4: Stop consuming processed sugars (high fructose corn syrup)
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I really agree here also. For people who have not tried to limit their refined sugar intake, try it for a week. For the first 2 or 3 days you will probably feel worse than normal, but once you get to 1 or 2 weeks off of it you will be MUCH better energy-wise.

Step 5: Stop consuming foods containing hormones [Step 1 & 2 is 90% effective for this]
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Agree.

Step 6: Stop consuming foods containing pesticides [ " ]
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If I can't afford organic food, what is the easiest way to clean at least the OUTSIDE of our veggies/fruit so that it removes most pesticides?

Step 7: Create a distilling apparatus to create your own pure H20 supply.
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Distilled water, while pure, may not be the most advantageous way to consume H2O. I thought pure H2O had a way of removing good minerals from your body? Isn't this why people like re-constituting water with minerals once they've distilled it? (mainly bone density loss)


Step 8 Stop consuming foods containing GMO (genetically modified organism
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How is this unhealthy?
 
I use a fruit and vegetable wash on my apples and stuff..its supposed to move almost all the pesticides and wax from the outside of the fruit..Im not sure if the pesticides go deeper than that tho..does anyone know how that works?
 
- Animal products are carcinogenic.
- Purified water does not get all the waste products in water. An EPA study showed that governmental water filters don't touch a huge spectrum of human waste products. It's simply a security blanket in this pollutant increasing world.

- GMOs: Again, a safety blanket. I understand from my philosophy that it's a preventative measure; we do not know the risks involved, and so with me being conservative, it might be the safest to use what we know.
 
- Animal products are carcinogenic.
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I'd be interested if you have any articles to support that.

- Purified water does not get all the waste products in water. An EPA study showed that governmental water filters don't touch a huge spectrum of human waste products. It's simply a security blanket in this pollutant increasing world.
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I understand that. You just may want to add stuff to it back.


- GMOs: Again, a safety blanket. I understand from my philosophy that it's a preventative measure; we do not know the risks involved, and so with me being conservative, it might be the safest to use what we know.
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Quite conservative, but not crazy :)

I just can't get too worked up over GMO stuff - the only real aspect I am concerned with is the cross-over to wild strains of food.
 
I pretty much agree with all those points except i do believe that consuming some animal products; mostly fish, chicken, turkey, eggs, yogurt, and cheese is ok, however they must be organic/ free from hormones/free range. I'm also not a fan of cow's milk, i think goat's milk/cheese/yogurt is a much better alternative.

I'd also like to know where you got this from StagnantReaction?
Animal products are carcinogenic.
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Regarding GMO foods, im dead against it fo so many reasons.

*Cross pollination
*The big corporations who have control-patented seeds therefore basically able to have farmers dependent on them through not being able to re-seed, this is bad especially for the lower economic farmers ie. 3rd world.
*People may develop allergies through the altered protein structure and toxin production.
*We risk losing the native food species as the GMO foods are likely to become more dominant and take them over
*New bacteria, viruses and antibiotic resistant microrgamisms
 
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Animal products causes heart disease (the only source of) and colon cancer.
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Again, i'd be interested to read an article about this, do you have a reference? Are you saying that if someone didnt eat any animal products their whole life they wouldnt get heart disease?

And about the colon cancer, is that due to the fact of the proteins not being easily digested and them sitting in your gut to rot?
 
"Regarding GMO foods, im dead against it fo so many reasons."


"*The big corporations who have control-patented seeds therefore basically able to have farmers dependent on them through not being able to re-seed, this is bad especially for the lower economic farmers ie. 3rd world."

This is a problem with capitalism, not GMO foods themselves. But I agree this is bad.

"*People may develop allergies through the altered protein structure and toxin production."

There is no evidence of this, zero. Your personal speculation doesn't mean much.

"*We risk losing the native food species as the GMO foods are likely to become more dominant and take them over"

What can you possibly mean by "native food species"? Nearly all, if not all food species, have been created by humans by selective breeding within species and cross breeding between species allowing gene flow of thousands of genes of unknown function. Introducing a single gene of known function is much safer, especially with the more rigorous testing such modified foods undergo.

"*New bacteria, viruses and antibiotic resistant microrgamisms"

This is the eternal battle of agriculture, nothing new here except we are learning to get the upper hand.

GMO food is the only way we will be able to feed the masses in the coming decades. The margin of error in food production (crop failures due to pests, etc) is going to have to go down and GMO is the only way. Sorry thats just the way it is

-ek
 
Aspartame IS the grossness. I used to use a psyllium husk formula that contained it as an artificial orange flavor..and I noticed after about a week of taking it I would start getting these shocklike, painful zapping in my nerves kinda pains along my arms..its horrible. I use to flavorless, 100% natural psyllium now, thank god.
 
Step 9: Stop consuming artificial sweeteners such as sucralose(splenda) and aspartame(which i beleive is a product of monsanto).
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That's a great one to live by. I can't stand what aspartame does to me. It feels more toxic than all the FUN drugs I put into me.

And sucralose's chemical structure looks more like a pesticide rather than "made from sugar". And they MARKET IT TO KIDS!
 
"Step 1: Stop consuming dead animal flesh [most important]
Step 2: Stop consuming all animal products"

A combination of four studies (31,766 participant in total) on the percent difference in heart disease and stroke compared with regular meat-eaters (Key, 1999).

---------------------------------Heart Disease Stroke
Vegans (n=753)________ -26%_______ -30%
Lacto-ovo vegetarians (n=23,265) -34%__ -13%
Fish eaters____________ -34%________ +4%
occasional meet eaters___-20%________ -3%
(sorry if this is kind of hard to read, but you get the idea)

also, from the World Cancer Research Fund and the American Institute of Cancer Research Fund.

"Vegetable and fruit consumption is associated with lower risk of cancer at almost every site."
"Alcohol is highly detrimental for cancers of many sites."
"Meat and animal fats are detrimental."

good list SR, I totally agree.
 
Fish is your friend

There may be a link between excess consumption of meat and cancer (not yet definitively proven), but I would HIGHLY doubt that you could implicate fish, with it's protective Omega-3's which are nourishing to the body's cells. Even if you do not eat fish, you should take fish oil supplements, imo. And no, flaxseed oil does not contain the right kind of Omega-3 (DHA) - fish is unique.

From here: http://www.cancer.org.au/content.cfm?randid=983108

Dr Elio Riboli, head of the Nutrition and Cancer Research Unit of the World Health Organisation’s International Agency for Research on Cancer, opened the meeting with a summary of key findings on nutritional factors and cancer outcomes from the European Prospective In Cancer (EPIC) study. This study was an accumulation of nine large cohort studies across Europe, examining the issue by following more than half a million Europeans. While in epidemiological terms EPIC is relatively ‘immature’, sufficient evidence was presented to encourage more investigation of the link between processed meat and colorectal cancer. There were also data suggesting some hope might be found in fish as a useful dietary aid to help prevent cancer. The fruit, vegetables and cancer issue remains a challenge, but again we should feel confident that eating more of these food types is generally a healthy public message to support, and one which we have reasonable grounds to believe contributes to reduction of some cancer risk.


Associate Professor Dallas English, from The Cancer Council Victoria, presented early data from the Melbourne Collaborative Cohort study suggesting meat consumption in excess of ten serves per week was suggestive of an increased colorectal cancer risk (RR = 1.8). There was also evidence of higher processed meat consumption (5 or more times per week) increasing colorectal cancer risk (RR = 1.5). The meat and cancer issue will not go away and deserves a close following.
 
^very informative.

I would like to add that only certain types of fish such as macrale and salmon (fish with a lot of fat) have significant amounts of omega-3. Also, fish eating "vegetarians" have a 4% increased chance of stroke when compared to average meat eaters.

Flax seed oil can be supplemented with vegetarian DHA.
 
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