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Acid trip to overcome other addictions?

Hendrix Haze15

Hendrix Haze15

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A few people recently have been telling me I should have a psychedelic trip to help me overcome or more like think through my past and current problems with heroin. While I do understand the fact that you do think completely different while tripping and you are able to analyze yourself, would it be wise however to try and help with other drug addictions? Also the fact that you are pretty down in the dumps and feeling really depressed after kicking heroin makes me wonder if its a good idea as I've heard you should only take psychedelics while in a positive mindset. I've been clean off of heroin for about 2 weeks and this was after a small relapse which really hasn't thrown me back to full on addiction. I'm not sure on what to do, as I just bought 2 hits of acid the other day and its just sitting in my room. Also, the thing is, when I eat the acid, I'll probably be by myself just hanging out in my room/house. I know this really isnt a good idea either, but I really don't know any people I could trip with. Anyways, sorry if this post sounds stupid. I just need some advice on what others think of my situation and what the best thing to do is with the two tabs of acid sitting in my drawer.
 
Bill wilson did it to help overcome alcohol addiction. He even had plans to distribute LSD at AA meetings all over. He would often boast of its' capacity to induce religious/spiritual states in witch you could find new strength.

Sorry, for those who don't know. Bill Wilson was one of the co-founders of AA, along with a guy named Dr.Bob. Bill underwent 'belladona' treatment in a rehab hospital that caused him to momentarily lapse into a religious type state in witch he saw angels and felt the prescence of God himself. This state would re-manifest later in his life when he would take LSD, and then even later when he lapsed into Alziemers (sp?).

Hope any of that helps.
 
Early trials to overcome alcohol dependence showed a lot of promise for LSD.
 
Dude, I know how you feel. I've been battling an opiate/heroin problem for the past year.

I did drop LSD last year and avoided opiates completely for 3 months. It just made me feel how they were tearing apart my mind and soul. How they were almost changing me into a different person...things I wouldn't normally do, I was doing. It helped me analyze all of this and I went through the sickness and shit and it did work.

That's my goal for this year...now that I'm serious about getting off of them (not being able to hold down a job, almost losing my family, etc.), I'd really like to try another psychedelic session.
 
I had bronchitis for a couple weeks and after the first week of attempting to smoke cigarettes with the outcome of intense pain in my lungs, I decided to try to quit smoking after a year and a half and a pack a day (again for the third time). It wasn't going very well, but then I did a big fat dose of lsd. I can proudly say that I haven't smoked a single whole cigarette in 10 months. I do occasionally take a couple drags off of somebody else's cigarette when I've been drinking, but I do that much less often now than after I first quit.

While on acid I realized that my failure to quit smoking was based in part on my desire to smoke while drinking (something I do fairly often). I realized that if I smoked a whole cigarette or two I would absorb enough nicotine for me to want more after I was sober again. Only taking a couple drags here and there while drinking was a way I came up with to compensate for this, and I'm glad it has worked for me, because once I sober up I have no desire for tobacco. Plus, by not considering 2 drags to be 'cheating', I don't end up in the delusion of 'oh, I just smoked again, I'm a failure and I'll never quit smoking, time to buy another pack'.

Just thought I'd share my relevant experience.
 
A friend of mine took a high dose of 2c-b a couple weeks ago and hasnt picked up alcohol since.

This particular friend would drink everyday ntill he passed out. He didnt really go into detail with me what happened on his trip that made him decide to quit alcohol but something certainly happened.

Im a firm believer that psychedelics could help you greatly.
 
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Just thought i would say, it's not a smart move to come on an internet message board and admit you have illegal drugs just sitting in your room. :)

Anyway, depending on the strength of the acid it might well help cure your addiction. I don't have any facts to prove this apart from having experienced the drug I can see how it can cure addiction.
 
YES!!!! lsd is secretly the cure for addiction!!!! i am also a recovering heroin addicted and after i stopped using i was really depressed for a while. and after a couple months i decided i was going to try to figure myself out and try to understand why i felt like i needed to do dope and all that shit. well, long story short, lsd changed my whole life in ways i cant even begin to describe in words.

and you should definitely trip by yourself!! thats the only way to trip for this sort of thing. you gotta get some good music together, and some good weed. you take the acid and itll start to take effect in like an hour or so. when you really start tripping good, the key is to put headphones on and CLOSE YOUR EYES! the closed eye visuals are the secret to getting the effects that you are looking for from this drug.

and if you want a real over night life changer, take some ecstasy about 4 hours after taking the acid.. its called candy flipping and it's easily the most uplifting and enlightening experience a human being can have.

if you ever want to talk about this please get in touch! you are definitely going in the right direction!
 
LSD, while it may have the power to stop someone from using a drug they're addicted to, should not be touted as "the secret cure for addiction". That is just kind of ludicrous.

What about ibogaine? Ever done any research on the psychedelic tryptamine Ibogaine, and its reported effects that help stop opiate withdrawal, and help cure heroin addicts?

It's still Schedule 1 in the USA, but in Canada they do offer Ibogaine therapy for opioid dependent individuals. Dosage depends on how high your opiate dose is. It's like a 3 day experience (trip) and a lot of people have cured their heroin addiction with it.

advanced Ibogaine treatment is specifically designed to heal these root causes of addiction. Our Ibogaine treatment protocol has proven to be an invaluable method in treating physical dependency and withdrawal symptoms of Alcohol, Cocaine, Heroin, Methadone, and many other prescription Opiates. While eliminating the withdrawal symptoms, the Ibogaine treatment restores the brain’s neurochemistry to a properly functioning state. By resetting the dopamine uptake pathways in the pleasure and craving centers of the brain, our Ibogaine treatment is effectively able to reverse the imbalances that cause addiction.
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http://www.ibogaineintervention.com

And I would hesitate to call ANYTHING a "cure for addiction". It's all in the mind.
 
Bear in mind that the trip is one thing. What you do with it afterwards is what you do with it afterwards.

Just because an LSD trip doesn't lead you to living in a completely different manner for the rest of your life doesn't mean it isn't of value. Going into it with an expectation that "LSD is going to cure me forever" isn't going to be too helpful. LSD can give you a little hope and a little peace of mind. If that's enough to keep you off the smack then good.
 
Just because an LSD trip doesn't lead you to living in a completely different manner for the rest of your life doesn't mean it isn't of value. Going into it with an expectation that "LSD is going to cure me forever" isn't going to be too helpful. LSD can give you a little hope and a little peace of mind. If that's enough to keep you off the smack then good.
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Agreed. The LSD experience is very powerful and had much potential to do many things, but it should not be used/reported as a "cure for addiction"....

There really is no pharmacological "cure" for addiction, as it is a disease [sic] that manifests the mind as well as the body. LSD and/or other psychedelics may help you realize certain things you wouldn't have realized before, but the trick is to take those realizations and put them into action now and for the future.

If you stop shooting dope for a few days due to an acid trip, cool. But if you actually stop permanently, I would venture a guess that LSD was not the ONLY thing that "cured" you -- you need to have the right mindset and the willingness to quit.

I say this because I have seen many drug addicts take LSD, even in high doses, without it "changing" their habits or affecting them for more than 24 hours. But I'm sure there are many who it helps, the ones who go in with the right intentions.
 
I watched a documentry a long time ago on LSD which said a study showed at a rehab centre with controlled LSD sessions 1/3 of Heroin addicts became classified as rehabilitated.

Take that information with a pinch of salt though, it's very much down to the individual, LSD may give new insight but what is that insight if you have no will power to use when your completely sober, you can't be on LSD all the time.

LSD can help but your the only one who can change the habit.

Wish you all the luck man.
 
There's a report on erowid of someone quitting coke drugs with LSD.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=37004

I fully support using LSD with the intention of trying to better yourself and figure out new ways of thinking about iife. It can be a very good cathartic tool.

As someone mentioned above, Ibogaine is used for treatment, and there are many reports on erowid of treatment. It seems to be more intense and long-lasting than LSD (which is pretty long lasting itself).
 
An LSD experience helped me with alcoholism like a year ago. I didn't drink for like a month. Then life threw me a curveball; a really bad one, and on top of it I was 19, couldn't find a job, no girls like me (you'd think in 4 years I'd get the chance to hook up with a girl but alas) and I felt hopeless so I relapsed. I would rather relapse and be drunk than sit there sober with bleak thoughts that I can't get out of my head.

LSD can help you wake up and smell the roses, but like Psilocybonaut said it's definitely no cure. The only cure is your own willpower. Do not rely on something else to cure your addiction. Ibogaine has had some pretty promising results though. But in the end you just need to change your whole lifestyle.

If you know yourself pretty well on psychedelics then go for it. Perhaps the experience will reveal to you aspects of your life and personality that need changing, but you should be able to accomplish that without LSD. Basically all the LSD does is rub those aspects in your face.

I've quit habitual drinking quite a few times. One time was because I blacked out and it got me arrested. That was an eye opener because I never thought I would ever get arrested as I'm no troublemaker.

I just recently quit drinking because this girl I like doesn't like me when I'm drunk. It's kind of pointless because I don't think she likes me, but it's nice to have an excuse not to drink I guess.




I used to take a lot of opiates. Mainly oxycodone, hydrocodone, methadone[opioid] and black tar. I'm very sensitive to opiates though, if I snooze more than 25 - 30mg of oxycodone I have to make sure not to eat or drink anything (even water) for a few hours before and after or I will puke it up. I have been on opiate binges which have lasted like 2 weeks, but I never let my opiate tolerance elevate in the first place so I never had WD's. I had friends who were taking like 10 or 15 methadone pills a day (two of them are now dead because of this); if I take 2 methadones I can feel it for like 2 days.

About a year after my whole oxycodone binge phase I tried shooting black tar. I loved it, but I knew there was no way I could get addicted to it because my sensitivity to opiates prevents me from doing so. So I tried it a few more times every now and then. If all the gear were in front of me I'd probably do it again too. I'm not afraid that I will develop a physical addiction. The only physical addiction I've ever had was from alcohol.

In the end I guess all there is to say is stop putting opiates on a pedestal. If you are past the WD stage then there is no reason for you to have to take opiates aside from having insufficient willpower to quit.

Hope this helps man. I find that reading other peoples stories helps me realize things sometimes :).
 
Hendrix Haze15, before i started dropping acid regularly and taking other RCs just as often, i used to be basically very hooked up cocaine, most;y iv been diagnosed with poly drug addiction because i used to use pretty much all the oldschool drugs, cocaine(either smoking crack or my favorite that i haven't dosed in 3 years as IV cocaine), heroin, pot, usual Chicago stuff, but anyway back to my point, once i started dropping acid i discovered something, acid and other psychedelics r a life style, not just a drug. but a away of life, and every since i accepted that notion im drug free from the bad drugs, of course i <3pot.
so yeah basically acid saved my life, i used to be a very borderline sometimes dangerous drug user. but those days r over hanks to my friend lucy.
 
The mental aspects of addiction are the challenge, techniques for dealing with cravings, handling the times when you do inevitably use during recovery, dealing with your brain telling you its okay to do it once or just keep it low-key and manageable when you really are clean.
Techniques and strategies to cope with these times is what your addiction counsellors, detox centres and rehabs should be kitting you out with.
LSD may well help, but overcoming an issue as big as addiction may require a number of strategies, because for many is the biggest challenge they have had to face in their lives, and it is not easy, its a hard challenge, but it is possible, because its all in the mind and if once you recognize and deal with the tricks the mind is playing on you, you'll piss it.
Good luck with it.
 
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If I understand correctly: you've already quit, and you're still struggling with it, so you are asking if an acid trip would help or hinder your efforts to stay clean.

I think it could definitely be helpful, with a few caveats:

1. You might have a difficult experience, especially if you're in a bad or depressed mood or have mood swings due to withdrawal,
2. There's no guarantee the trip will help 'cure' you or make it easier to stay clean,
3. You certainly should make sure not to have any H or other opiates around when you trip - you don't want to have the temptation hanging over your head while tripping.

I've never tried a trip with the specific goal of helping me get through withdrawal symptoms, but two different 2C-E trips inspired my decisions first to quit cigarettes, then to give up benzos and cocaine, both cold turkey, after a 2CE+MDMA experience. Both times, the trip allowed me to sort of 'step back' and think rationally about how these drugs were affecting my life and those around me. It was clear all the effects besides passing hedonistic enjoyment were strongly negative, and that there were much better and more responsible paths to enjoyment than the ones I had chosen for myself. I'm still clean from all three of those nasty, addictive substances, and in just a couple months with that barrel of monkeys off my back, I've salvaged a lot of personal relationships I had strained during my addiction, went from defaulting on my student loans while blowing all my money feeding my growing collection of addictions to searching for a decent-paying job and getting my shit together to go back to school so I can have a real career instead of living below my potential and just barely scraping by week after week... In short, I've really turned my life around in a lot of ways, and a few months ago when I was still an addict I would probably argue and get hostile if you told me I even had a problem.

That was a really long-winded way of saying: if done right, I think a psychedelic experience can absolutely be an invaluable part of your path to recovery. Best of luck!
 
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