Acid Sickness?

[cannablissss]

I never got around to posting this but I never figured out the answer either so I'll post now.

A little while ago, me & a friend finally came across a legitimate acid source and got 2 tabs that were supposed to be "double-dipped." My mom was to be our trip sitter for the long night ahead of us.

It was 10 at night, and I had taken my tab. My friend was hesitant from doing cocaine at the time and didn't want to mix the two. A good hour passed by without me feeling anything, so I assumed the acid was fake and started to chew on my friend's tab, joking about how we wasted our money.

It was 11:30 now. I went from sitting on the bed to laying on the floor watching the design on my carpet dance around like little bugs in 15 minutes. I would laugh, then cry because I was so happy. I had to go to the bathroom frequently, and I loved watching the hand towels in front of me breathe with me. It was quite comforting. Anyways, I'm not going to go into a full blown-out trip report.

I felt extremely nauseous and finally ran to the bathroom and got horribly sick; horribly as in I was probably projectile vomiting into my toilet. I threw up twice in the bathroom, and three times in my room. Still tripping.

My questions are - if I took 2 double-dipped tabs, isn't that equivalent to 4 regular hits of acid? Why did nothing happen until I ate the second tab? Also, has anyone else gotten sick from dropping acid & what do you think caused it?

 

[Clocktower]

got 2 tabs that were supposed to be "double-dipped."

Just FYI, this sounds like ridiculous bullshit.

if I took 2 double-dipped tabs, isn't that equivalent to 4 regular hits of acid?

There's not really such a thing as a "regular hit." LSD manufacturers don't standardize their doses unfortunately. The bottom line is, you don't know how much LSD you took, only that you took a lot.

Why did nothing happen until I ate the second tab?

Waiting an hour for the effects of LSD to manifest is not terribly uncommon. It just happens that way sometimes. Did you eat anything before/after you dosed?

Also, has anyone else gotten sick from dropping acid & what do you think caused it?

All psychedelics can cause nausea in some people, I often experience it myself (though at the doses I take, I don't vomit.) A friend of mine who has a weak stomach once vomited during the come-up of a fairly large LSD dose, roughly 200 mcg by my estimate.

 

[cannablissss]

I hadn't eaten anything since 7 hours before I took it became I wanted to feel the full effects and not have to wait. I didn't eat anything until I was tripping off of the second hit, and it was probably snack foods.
You're right though, there's no way to tell how much acid I took. So there's really not a such thing as double dipped tabs?

 

[DutchBloke]

You can ask the guy what he meant by double dipped, but I have never heard of someone actually dipping their tabs.
As far is I know they drop it on the tabs, so it is possible that two drops were applied but then still you don't know how much LSD was in one drop.

 

[Solipsis]

Proper acid is not 'dripped on', I think that is either an amateur method (which I thankfully applied once or twice for personal use with other drugs - so, amateur am I), or a way to dose liquid acid on anything that will hold it like a sugarcube or mint... usually for ad hoc friendly dealing out not too long before it is to be used. But as you might guess it is unusual to drip on each blotter square, or rip off a square and drip on it 'on the fly'.

Decent acid is laid / soaked / misted all at once - stacked sheets, which I guess are sometimes called a bible.

Double dipping sounds like utter nonsense because there is not really anything to be gained from "dipping" or laying two times, that would be bad practice. They choose the strength you want the blotters to have, adjust concentration of the liquid that is applied, and lay/"dip".
It is a marketing ploy or a way to emphasize that the product is strong. Which of course may be true. On the other hand good stuff sells itself, you wouldn't need to emphasize in 4 different ways that the 'tabs are double dipped, laid extra long, bonus marinated' etc (admittedly I kinda wish people would start saying bonus marinated now). You would only need to warn the user to take only half, or one. Ideally actual microgrammage is informed, but this can again rise fantastically as dealers dream of money. Which is also why it depends on the relationship you have with your source IMO.

With ecstasy there is something similar: double stacking I think. Same story.

In every case: no there is no such thing as a standard dose or double dose truthfully being distributed everywhere. Instead there are benchmarks like 100 ug of LSD or 100 mg of MDMA. Unfortunately the average doses tend to fall short in reality, as is proven by drug testing services.

As for getting sick from LSD... well psychosomatic actions can cause anxiety or fear to be expressed as nausea etc, and also some people may indeed react to it as if their body thinks it is being poisoned, while LSD is relatively non-toxic. Typically serotonergic action from LSD on the gut tends to be limited, but some people get a bad deal.
This also contributes to the debate whether there is such a thing as clean or dirty acid, which is most likely for a very big part untrue and in our mind.

I got pretty gassy from anxiety the very first time I did acid, had to burp every 5 seconds... annoying!

 

[FargonPsyMind]

Was it an acidic nervousness like butterflies in your stomach? Cuz that's acid lol I've never actually been spun out nauseous from acid just butterflies. I have puked tho

 

[CrypticArc]

Ginger will help. Psychedelics bind to 5hta2 which makes you trip, but also bind to 5hta3 which just makes your stomach feel wonky. Ginger is a 5hta3 antagonist which will prevent the LSD from binding to 5hta3 but not 5hta2, thus curing nausea. There is also a medication you can buy OTC in some countries called ondansetron, which does the same thing but better and for longer, however in the US it is script only.

 

[cannablissss]

I'm actually prescribed Ondansentron 4mg, but by the time I go to take it's too late. Next time I'll try drinking a bottle of Ginger ale and see if that helps. Thank you for your input!

 

[CrypticArc]

ginger ale often doesn't contain very much gingerol. Gingerol is the spicy component in ginger which has all of the magic anti-nausea properties. You would be better off making tea from fresh ginger root or just swallowing powdered ginger capsules.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

Getting nausea on LSD is pretty normal, it used to happen to me, it's what I refer to a "psychedelic nausea". It happens with psilocybin, too, at least it does for me. Only once to the point of actually vomiting, though (the first time I consumed mushrooms).

 

[Toltec]

I get a bit of nausea on the come up from LSD, if i take dose above 400ug... This is how iv'e always known if i'm in for a real deep ride...

 

[FargonPsyMind]

One time I woke up after 2 tabs, went outside climbed the tree house. Took one bong toke and was done. So lightheaded and drained and it took all I had to climb down the tree bong in hand nauseous everything is too bright slept all day puked over side of bed. I haven't greened out in forever but acid served to erase my marijuana tolerance

 

[cannablissss]

I think I just had way too much for my first time, and I kept smoking cigarettes on top of that. Probably didn't help my nausea, lol.

 

[sekio]

chain smoking .... that'll do it

 

[Product]

You guys are lucky talking about smoking pot ! I had to quit and it took 11 weeks to leave my system at 6ft 4in 225lbs. I miss it so much but i just finished college and go my 2 year degree so it will be worth it i guess haha. I Hope they legalize medical where i live so i can smoke instead of taking these narcotics my doc gives me !

 

[Foreigner]

For me, the preservative that LSD is suspended in (I forget the name) tends to make me very nauseous, even if it's just a tiny bit on a tab. I usually have to eat a light meal before dosing to offset it, which unfortunately makes the trip take a lot longer to come on.

 

[sekio]

Does LSD have a preservative in it? (sodium ascorbate, BHT and EDTA would actually be good for maintaining a long lived solution)
I thought it was just plain ol' lysergide in grain alcohol?

Do you mean gelatine?

 

[CrypticArc]

Does LSD have a preservative in it? (sodium ascorbate, BHT and EDTA would actually be good for maintaining a long lived solution)
I thought it was just plain ol' lysergide in grain alcohol?

Do you mean gelatine?

I would hope not. I'm vegetarian