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Acid- Mind torn to pieces, most devilish nightmarish trip you can imagine- report

OP is lacking knowledge on drugs, OP thinks he will get a lucky good trip even though the rest are bad, hmm lets let OP keep doing high dose trips and take MDMA to pull him out of it.. should work right
 
F1n1shed said:
OP is lacking knowledge on drugs, OP thinks he will get a lucky good trip even though the rest are bad, hmm lets let OP keep doing high dose trips and take MDMA to pull him out of it.. should work right
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I can honestly say I was in his shoes about 2 weeks ago. It took 2 years of bad trips for me to realize I can never touch psychedelics or opiates again. If I do, I risk losing my mind.
 
I think you should steer clear of drugs in general i can see you becoming a vegetable if you continue to take such high doses of lsd.
 
not really.. the chemicals within mdma release serotonin which would create euphoria, feelings on empathy etc.. its not that much of a subjective thing. Its mostly chemistry.
 
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Anyone can act sarcastic and say they know stuff about psychedelics, sure.. you can claim to know more than me simply because ive had a bad trip. However, if my trip had been good know1 here would be bashing me and saying you lack knowledge. I have done my fair share of research, although benzos will reduce anxiety to an EXTENT, they wont diminish the large amount of anxiety and panic attacks someone is going through on such a humongous dose.. mdma however would, as by chemistry it releases chemicals which makes one feel feelings of empathy, euphoria etc.. there is a big difference between cocaine and mdma? cocaine is more "speedy" and would increase your heart rate which you wouldnt want.

If one does use mdma to stop a bad trip, they must spread out the dose to avoid a come-done while they are on the acid. However even the smallest amount of doses would be enough to push you to the right "direction". This is properly the most famous combination.. "candy-flipping" and it would proberly be the most effective way to turn a bad trip into an amazing one. A benzo would simply reduce the anxiety, while mdma would take you to heaven.

BTW, everyone stop acting like you have more experience and knowledge than me because its pretty fucking annoying. I never asked for a lecture, this was a trip report of my experience with acid. Although not a good one, I do not and will never regret it as I have learnt valuable lessons from it.
 
how can you possibly compare opiates and psychedelics? unless its mxe which has properties of both and is similar. Otherwise I cant imagine how an opiate would make you lose your mind.. and I have learnt my lesson, acid is not for me.. not at the moment. Not with the current state of mind that I have, I hope one day I can take it and actually enjoy the trip and see flowers and shit but till that day I wont take it. And if I do I will candyflip (take it with mdma) and that way I would 100% have a good trip, with doses spread out. But I dont think I want to do it anytime soon.. especially as I have HPPD now.
 
Instead of acid, next time do coke :). U can't really bad buzz on coke at all, it really is just a happy drug with no psychedelic effects to it like even MDMA can have. Well no bad buzz until you run out of coke LOL... Then u turn into "the fiend mode"
 
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Whatever you say OP. Many people are telling you that's a bad idea, but I guess you'll have to learn the hard way. *shrugs*
 
Sorry this happened to you, bud. I just have to ask, if you claim that ALL your past experiences with acid resulted in BAD trips, why in God's name would you try it again, and especially at such a high dose?

Have you ever considered taking a much lower dose? Way lower than you normally would and just seeing how that plays out?

Any way, thanks for sharing. Hope you feel better about all this.
 
Pars101 said:
lol my friend had a bad trip did 200mg mdma then the bad trip turned into a good one.. its logic.
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Yeah I think you need to think a bit more carefully about what chemicals you are putting in your body.

It is not logic that taking a "happy" drug like MDMA will always instantly fix your trip and turn it in a positive direction each and every time, as they both act on serotonin, if they happen to be doing it at the same time, it will not have the usual effect that MDMA would have on it's own. That's logic.

If you had have introduced MDMA to a 450ug acid trip, and managed to stack both the peaks on top of each other, or at that dose even still been tripping during the comedown of the MDMA, things could have very easily gone worse rather than better.

This has nothing to do with finding a "deeper" meaning, when I spoke of that I was referring to your LSD dose. As for just slamming more drugs down the hatch if things got hairy on LSD in the future, this is me going out of my way to try and share some of my personal experience with these drugs to try and help you inform yourself before you act. I am telling you that just dumping a lot of MDMA on top of an overwhelming acid trip does NOT always end well.
I have seen it go well, but I have seen it go bad.

I'm not trying to judge you, or find any deeper meanings as you said. In fact I'm trying to help you and give you advice that may one day stop you from accidentally making an acid freakout a lot worse by just adding random drugs that you usually enjoy whilst not under the influence of LSD, however it's up to you whether you choose to listen though.
 
Thanks for sharing. Hope it helped. Not sure what to say really mate other than go easy.

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8) I go into my room and things are fairly okay, im chatting to people on facebook etc.. then for some reason I start to get very anxious the patterns on my wall dont look nice at all they look weird and demented shapes of peoples faces screaming. At this point I decide to listen to michael jacksons song Billie Jean as im a massive michael jackson fan .. This does NOT help at all... he sounds so DEVILISH and EVIL, his voice is speaking directly to me, his face is coming out of the computer screen and is almost mocking me for liking him.. his mocking me for being a fan. While he is singing about Billie Jean I suddenly feel as if the song was written about a girl he had raped and killed. I feel terrible for thinking such things as I love him to death.

9) At this point I go full on CRAZY, I think if someone like michael jackson sounds evil to me (when I love him) I might aswell try and COMBAT the acid by listening to crazy BLACK METAL music like dimmu borgir, burzum etc.. These are crazy fucking people the singer of Burzum actually killed a man.
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I must admit that this made me smile. I absolutely love your logic here - or lack of logic.
 
I have had something similar happen to me on 500mics aswel, i was in a very good environment with just 1 tripping partner on the same dose as i both with not much tolerance at the time nor experience, set and setting was proper had really nice music, sounded like it was talking to me and also sounded like i was hearing all the songs for the first time. I hadnt ate 6+ hours when i dropped it destroyed me did the same thing to my buddy. after the first 2 hours we really forgot how to talk it just couched locked me, didnt know who i was none of that. i was thinking at times when i could that id always be tripping, wouldnt ever be able to talk again, i had way to much maybe some how i got way more than i thought. at the time at the peak it felt like i just hit a drop off mentally there was no mental thought process going on. the time dilation i experienced was at a all time extreme, time was going backwards imo. ended up coming out A ok better than i was before imo, 1 of my top 3 trips along with a psilocin experience. lsd and mushrooms have showed me some really crazy/interesting things.

this happended to me and my good buddy a couple years back and our other friend afterwards was interested he didnt know you could go that route with lsd, sooo i eventually ate a good amount with him in a safe envirnoment and the same thing happend to him, was a little different but everyones different.

itll definitley change you, you can use it to your advantage if you learn how to imo.
 
LACK of logic , well it had SOME logic in it. Basically, I thought to my self is someone as good as Michael Jackson (which I fucking love) can sound so evil, then what would the extreme sound like? (I do listen to some black metal sometimes) pretty dark bands like Burzum, Mayhem etc.. I mean the singer of Burzum literally killed a man, stabbed him to death witha knife, and the band members of Mayhem have done crazy shit like that to, so the music was DARK to the max..

I guess in a WEIRD way in my mind, while tripping balls, I thought I might aswell try and prove the acid wrong.. that it cannot mind fuck me, I considered it to be a "counter attack" haha.. but that was an EPIC fail.. however, at the start it worked.. I got into it and tried to enjoy it, but then eventually the wallpapers where looking at me in a pretty devilish way.
 
I always listen to advice, regardless of whether I agree with what is being said or not! for instance I don't agree with what you claim. That a drug like mdma can make a trip worst, as this from my point of view is chemically impossible. If the mdma is of good quality, and you dose it reasonably (pre-planned dosed ready just in-case) then you will more than likely be okay.. Anyhow, im not suggesting people to try this method to get rid of a bad trip. But what I am saying is that it HAS worked on me, and my friends. So, i'm speaking from personal experience, and friends experience. However, I didn't take mdma, I took 6-apb which can be considered fairly similar to an extent although mdma is less speedy and the duration is lower. Nevertheless, I do consider it to be a "candy-flip". If you dose out the mdma so that your not on a comedown on acid then you will be fine, even if your on a comedown on a tail end of a trip, it means you have passed the peak and the hardest parts.

They both work on serotonin, but acid+ mdma is a very popular combination, and proberley one of the most loved ones out there, so to suggest that something can go "crazily" wrong as a result is not too understandable. However, I do appreciate that drugs are subjective and interact with people differently. I was merely speaking on my behalf and was not suggesting anyone to do this.

Thanks :)
 
Indeed. That is why regardless of my experience with acid, I always felt an URGE to go back to it.. because even though the trip is not "fun" in any sense, I learn valuable stuff about life, and more importantly my character/ personal issues that I have to deal with. Do I regret taking a dose that high? perhaps, do I regret the experience I gained from it? NO. Because it was THE most valuable experience of my life. I experienced DEATH it self.. that is how REAL my trip was to me.
 
Yes, the vibes ive gotten from life have been bad to an extent because of the trip. But, I have am a spiritual personal.. and I have found ways to think things through in my mind and reach a conclusion that satisfies my desires.
 
IVE experienced it to, I don't understand why people like to just highlight bits of what I write then baselessly attack me on them? I have ended a bad trip with 6-apb. Do you no appretiate that from my experience, and the experience of those around me, it works for US. When did I say do this if you have a bad trip? you can take your benzo if you want.. if thats what works for you. This is what works for me from my experience, and i'm okay sticking with it.
 
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