I've been using benzos for over a year now and lately they have been harder to obtain so I've been looking at alternatives. I've been taking 15mg/500mg codiene/paracetamol pills. I take 6 at once and do this daily, rarely I'll take 8 but never more than 8 a day. How safe is this? I know I should be doing a CWE but I've tried dozens of times and it never works, I once tried 40 pills via CWE (I've tried all the methods) and felt no effects, not even an itch yet I can take 6 pills and get a great buzz. So basically I'm asking how safe is this and am I destroying my liver? Some people say 4000mg APAP is the limit yet others say 10,000mg is. Are there any reliable studies?
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Abusing Codiene/Paracetamol Pills
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Sprout
Bluelight Crew
There are many studies that show long-term APAP usage is hepatoxic.
Can you describe your CWE for me please? Its a very simple and effective proceedure when done correctly so it may be human error.
Can you describe your CWE for me please? Its a very simple and effective proceedure when done correctly so it may be human error.
I would skip either the t-shirt filter, or the coffee filter. Most people just use a coffee filter, too many filters and you could be losing the codeine.
doIhavePotential
Bluelighter
- crush the codeine and place it in water. I use 30-80ml for 20-30 tabs
- leave it in water for 10-20 mins
-add ice to the water and give it a swirl
-pour the mixture into 2 coffee filters
-pull the edges up and twist it so it is forced through the filter
- at this point you can filter it again in a coffee filter to remove any apap or binders that got through
It might be that you had a full stomach and didn't notice the subtle high from codeine. Give it another try it took me 2-3 tries before I could notice the warmth and euphoria from codeine.
I wouldn't be taking the pills unfiltered as it limits the dose,#of times it can be used in a day and the apap is horrible for your liver
- leave it in water for 10-20 mins
-add ice to the water and give it a swirl
-pour the mixture into 2 coffee filters
-pull the edges up and twist it so it is forced through the filter
- at this point you can filter it again in a coffee filter to remove any apap or binders that got through
It might be that you had a full stomach and didn't notice the subtle high from codeine. Give it another try it took me 2-3 tries before I could notice the warmth and euphoria from codeine.
I wouldn't be taking the pills unfiltered as it limits the dose,#of times it can be used in a day and the apap is horrible for your liver
RobotRipping
Bluelighter
daily maximum for apap (acetaminophen) is 3,000mg, and really try not to do more than 1,000-1,500mg at one time. I suggest you start working on your CWE technique as you are going to cause some damage with those doses. I've done hundreds of CWEs they work really well, so keep trying them.
Can you get it with ASA instead of APAP? ASA doesn't clump up the same way, making it generally easier to do a CWE effectively. Not sure what would be going wrong though exactly. Codeine is weird - there were times I would take strong pills and feel nothing, I'd have to do a CWE. Other times I've had CWE's just not really hit me.
The taste of the water should be fucking horrendous, but have a sort of a fragrant quality to the bitterness like opium incense. I've had good results using ASA/Codeine dissolved in water, left to stand until the white powder floats to the bottom, and then running through a coffee filter, and refiltering if necessary. I know you've tried all the methods, but possibly using this combination will help? My CWE's got WAY more efficient after switching from APAP.
Other than that not sure what it could be. Where I am codeine is OTC and is available in preparations with either APAP, ASA, ibuprofen, or methocarbamate. It would be worth finding out, unless these are prescription and the only pills you have access to.
The taste of the water should be fucking horrendous, but have a sort of a fragrant quality to the bitterness like opium incense. I've had good results using ASA/Codeine dissolved in water, left to stand until the white powder floats to the bottom, and then running through a coffee filter, and refiltering if necessary. I know you've tried all the methods, but possibly using this combination will help? My CWE's got WAY more efficient after switching from APAP.
Other than that not sure what it could be. Where I am codeine is OTC and is available in preparations with either APAP, ASA, ibuprofen, or methocarbamate. It would be worth finding out, unless these are prescription and the only pills you have access to.
nAON
Bluelight Crew
10,000mg is the 'get the fuck to hospital right now' limit, while 3-4000mg is the daily limit, and 1000mg is the limit of what you should be taking at once. There are quite a few risks associated with prolonged use though.
As others mentioned, do a CWE, it'll get rid of most of the APAP. Check out the megathread for full instructions, and post there if you have any questions on it.
As others mentioned, do a CWE, it'll get rid of most of the APAP. Check out the megathread for full instructions, and post there if you have any questions on it.