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GottaCatchEmAll

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I'm sure this has been gone over but I don't take any prescription neda

meds and I havn't rolled in months, i popped a pokeball and nothing, took 2 more within the next hour and barely a speedy effect. Meanwhile my buddys rollin face off 1 pill. Is my serotonin just naturally depleted or i've heard of psyching yourself out but I don't know how its possible to mentally reject that much mdma. Any thoughts would be appreciated I'm just wondering if this is a sign of some underlying serotonin related issues that could lead to worse things than not rolling.
 
I've rolled about 7 or 8 times usually 200-300mg but last time i had some gnarly mints and i took about 650-750mg (over the course of 6 hours) mdma with mda and special k mix. That was the hardest I've ever rolled and that was nearly 6 months ago. The ones i got now are about 200mg mdma with a few mg special k, and 3 of em barely faded me.
 
If you're talking about pokeballs, the ones the DEA tested last year had 90mg of MDMA per pill. I've had ones from then and some of the latest batch, they hit me just the same.

Regardless, one pill with 90mg should get you going unless you have a high tolerance. Did you say you used to be on meds? Antidepressants?
 
I went through something like that, only I ate like 1000 calories like 2 hours before I had to roll (and rolled hard the night before that)
I had a muted roll even tho I popped 5 pokeballs. I had literally no noticable euphoria, just being more open and slightly more energetic.
It's probably something to do with the conditions you took them in
Just try again in a month
 
I take adderall once in a while maybe 5 x 30mg in a month whenever I need to study. Maybe the weights of the pills were 200 i dunno but within my circle of friends these are very highly rated and my friends know their sh*t when it comes to psychedelics. I'm not gonna worry about it too much it was just pretty lame that these girls were all feeling bad I wasn't rolling and I just got pissed cuz I was jealous of all their empathy, haha. I guess I'll just flip my summer stash and worry about more important shit than why don't my drugs work...
 
Adderall and dextroamphetamine do not act on the serotonin system of the brain, at least not to the degree that past adderall use would have any noticeable effect on your roll. I don't think it's related to serotonin levels in your brain either, serotonin itself is replenished rather quickly, after a 6 month abstinence I'd rule that out. It could be that your serotonin receptors are severely downregulated, which is reversible, but I've abused MDMA to a much heavier extent than you, and one pokeball will still get me rolling hard.

Did you feel the body high but not the empathy?
 
Despite a pill's reputation there are still fakes out there -- especially when a pill gets notoriety like the pokeballs have. After six months of abstaining from MDMA and three pills (even on the low end of MDMA pills at 40mgs would still be 120mgs) should have produced an effect. I'd suggest testing your pills next time.
 
The pills are not the problem and I've got at least 20 people who would agree with me on that. One of them put a seasoned roller on his ass for 4 hours tellin me he just wants to keep touching his skin. Maybe my immune system just kaboshed it I felt the stim but no empathy/euphoria, and worst of all I wasn't enjoying my music. Prolly a sign that I shouldn't be wasting my time and money. I told myself I was just gonna drop this one time and be good until winter and now I'm bitter and my friends think I'm a maniac with a sicko tolerance to beans.
 
Who knows? There's no reason to be bitter and jaded about it. Just try again some other time =) There are several factors that could come into play. I've had rolls where my friends rolled balls but i didn't -- and one of those times were with weak pills. If you didn't roll this time, continue taking a break for awhile and think about how awesome it will be when it works again for you. There's no way that MDMA just "stops working" >_O
 
AylaV said:
If you didn't roll this time, continue taking a break for awhile and think about how awesome it will be when it works again for you.
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Sometimes I think the opposite is true. Taking a long break can lead to expectations of "how awesome it will be" and you analyze your roll and that mutes it...
 
sheepie said:
prolly just a bad pill from a batch of good ones
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he said he took 3, so it wasnt just one bad pill...i had the same thing happen to me and my then gf, we had ate fried pork chops and mashed potatoes earlier that night though, greasy food may have nothing to do with it, but i dont eat fried food before a night of rolling anymore
 
i ate greasy ass mcdonalds mcdouble RIGHT after takin a .G Lady and i still rolled FACE after rollin a couple days before that. so i dunno if greasy food has somethin to do with it.

but thats my $.02, not no scientist.
 
GottaCatchEmAll said:
The pills are not the problem and I've got at least 20 people who would agree with me on that. One of them put a seasoned roller on his ass for 4 hours tellin me he just wants to keep touching his skin. Maybe my immune system just kaboshed it I felt the stim but no empathy/euphoria, and worst of all I wasn't enjoying my music. Prolly a sign that I shouldn't be wasting my time and money. I told myself I was just gonna drop this one time and be good until winter and now I'm bitter and my friends think I'm a maniac with a sicko tolerance to beans.
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It's common for people to say they felt the stimulation and the body high but no empathy or euphoria. In my opinion you had a bad roll. Serotonin is not the "happy chemical" despite common mythology. To put it simply serotonin plays a part in regulating your mood, all moods. You can be incredibly depressed and introspective with MDMA just as you can be in complete euphoria. After you've rolled more than a few times your experience begins to depend on your setting and vibe. Simply popping a pill isn't going to induce a state of bliss in it of itself.

Back in the 80's when they were using MDMA in therapy, one of its purposes was to induce a state of introspection in the subject. In couples therapy for example men and women could put aside their selfish feelings and realize how they've been mistreating their partner, that's why it was nicknamed "empathy" and not "ecstasy". When you take it in the club or rave environment, where you'll be listening to amazing music, be receiving social validation, and be around a bunch of happy people, you'll be in intense euphoria. It's all in your head.
 
Juice. said:
It's common for people to say they felt the stimulation and the body high but no empathy or euphoria. In my opinion you had a bad roll. Serotonin is not the "happy chemical" despite common mythology. To put it simply serotonin plays a part in regulating your mood, all moods. You can be incredibly depressed and introspective with MDMA just as you can be in complete euphoria. After you've rolled more than a few times your experience begins to depend on your setting and vibe. Simply popping a pill isn't going to induce a state of bliss in it of itself.

Back in the 80's when they were using MDMA in therapy, one of its purposes was to induce a state of introspection in the subject. In couples therapy for example men and women could put aside their selfish feelings and realize how they've been mistreating their partner, that's why it was nicknamed "empathy" and not "ecstasy". When you take it in the club or rave environment, where you'll be listening to amazing music, be receiving social validation, and be around a bunch of happy people, you'll be in intense euphoria. It's all in your head.
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avcpl said:
Sometimes I think the opposite is true. Taking a long break can lead to expectations of "how awesome it will be" and you analyze your roll and that mutes it...
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Is this really possible? I'll be rolling in the near future and I've been incredibly excited for a week or two now. Now you got me nervous that might happen to me lol.
 
wow that sucks. like someone else said, give it some time and try again. id also sugget loading up everyday a week before with 5htp. hope it works out for you
 
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