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About finding real LSD-25..

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MagicalOrangutan

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Basically, the general consensus is that getting actual LSD-25, rather than some research chemical or nothing, or otherwise, something that's NOT LSD but is being sold as LSD..is harder than getting a truckload of nuclear weapons-grade enriched plutonium shipped to your house. Legally.

Ok, I'm exaggerating..slightly. But then, every time I've heard of someone taking LSD in person/from my friends, the effects are..they black out and feel like shit. In other words, it's not LSD based on reports from 100+ year old fossils who were alive back when LSD was made anywhere on Earth (again I'm exaggerating..slightly).

The question is..does anyone on Earth regularly make LSD-25? If so, is it possible to get it anywhere? If so, where and how? I am very curious, lol.

Basically, everyone says LSD is better than anything else ever, and obviously it's the hardest psychedelic to get, from what I've read. It's simply another example of the well-known rule that the better something is, the harder it is to come across.

Does anyone here ever get say, LSD that has been tried by people who tried real LSD in the 60's when it was legal and guaranteed to be actual real LSD, who agreed that indeed, it was real LSD and not bullshit? Just wondering.
 
SpinOutOfControl said:
It's not THAT hard to find. Depending on who your friends are you should be more concerned about getting weak LSD than not LSD at all.
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Well I'm confused as to what you mean by weak LSD because LSD is either..LSD, or it's some other chemical; there's only one "kind" of LSD, which is LSD.

And well of course LSD-25 is like a million times harder, requires a million times more start-up cost, requires a million times more knowledge of advanced organic chemistry etc. than a DMT extraction, and there is no way to make it in an "ad hoc" way according to sources I've read, so no one in North America can provide it from what I've read, and anything that "feels like" real LSD is a similar but different research chemical from what I've read.

On the other hand, I have heard of something called "silk road" which allows you to order (illegal) drugs online..does anyone's "pet rock" know anything about that, or it's validity?
 
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SpinOutOfControl said:
Weak as in not dosed very strong. Like 50ugs vs 100ugs.
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I've heard you can't get a single molecule of real LSD unless..you go back in time to the 60's because it's so impossibly difficult to make even if you're a trained research chemist working for the U.S. government..I mean this is all exaggeration but still.
 
SONN said:
I mean that most other substances that fit on a blotter aren't all that similar to LSD and they have more/atypical side effects than ones you'd get from LSD
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I've read a lot of reports about people getting weird amphetamines on blotter, as well as nothing at all, and in real life I hear about people blacking out and feeling like they're gonna die on shit being sold falsely as "LSD", but from what I understand, LSD stopped being made around 2000 when some man (I forget his name) was busted.
 
SpinOutOfControl said:
I don't know what you mean if it's all exaggeration.
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Bascially that it's impossible to make actual LSD-25 unless you've got unwatched, uncontrolled access to a professional organic chemistry lab, and are a very rich multi millionaire that can afford the research chemicals, and have a Ph.d in organic chemistry from what I've read. Thus, I doubt there's any LSD-25 anywhere, it's just speedy amphetamines mixed with something of the 2C family to imitate LSD, or else nothing at all or some other dangerous chemical that (apparently) makes you just black out and feel like shit, since..every time I've heard of someone taking "LSD" in person, they just black out and feel like shit.
 
Dude, just because there are blotters out there with DOx or 25x-NBOMe or even some super potent tryptamine like 5-meo-amt doesn't mean LSD isn't out there.

The other day I talked to a guy who claims he gets his from switzerland (sorry if this is sourcing, i'm just trying to prove a point)

It's not THAT hard to make LSD its just that the precursor chemicals are tracked by the DEA because they are also all scheduled substances.

recently there was a big bust at Drexel University where a dude was making LSD. ....legit LSD so if you got a hold of that then you know you've had legit LSD.
 
SONN said:
Dude, just because there are blotters out there with DOx or 25x-NBOMe or even some super potent tryptamine like 5-meo-amt doesn't mean LSD isn't out there.

The other day I talked to a guy who claims he gets his from switzerland (sorry if this is sourcing, i'm just trying to prove a point)

It's not THAT hard to make LSD its just that the precursor chemicals are tracked by the DEA because they are also all scheduled substances.

recently there was a big bust at Drexel University where a dude was making LSD. ....legit LSD so if you got a hold of that then you know you've had legit LSD.
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yeah, it would make sense that only real legitimate chemists ever make real LSD. My main beef is that people just don't understand LSD to where they want to force OTHER people to not take it...as if it's any of their fucking business what others do to their bodies in their own homes.
 
MagicalOrangutan said:
yeah, it would make sense that only real legitimate chemists ever make real LSD. My main beef is that people just don't understand LSD to where they want to force OTHER people to not take it...as if it's any of their fucking business what others do to their bodies in their own homes.
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....huh? now i'm not sure if i'm catching your drift. Are you saying that people who make blotters masquerading as LSD are trying to force people to NOT take lsd????

or are you just talking about the average pedestrian's view of psychedelic drugs and the idea that "if it's forbidden fruit then it must be sinful to take it"
 
SONN said:
....huh? now i'm not sure if i'm catching your drift. Are you saying that people who make blotters masquerading as LSD are trying to force people to NOT take lsd????

or are you just talking about the average pedestrian's view of psychedelic drugs and the idea that "if it's forbidden fruit then it must be sinful to take it"
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The latter, for certain. But I think their attitude is more like "if it messes with your mind or body or otherwise is a drug, and it's pleasurable, it'll make you want to do more of it, and the less people do things that mess with their minds like that the better" which is IMO a misguided and frankly tyrannical view.

I have yet to actually try oral DMT yet but I got some mimosa powder and I've been pinching it like chewing tobacco every once in a while till it comes, which seems to have a slight but noticeable effect on me..calms me down. I'm not so angry about things as I was a few minutes ago :D Maybe it's the placebo effect..but it seems stronger than that
 
I think EnchantedMonkey up there is posting while intoxicated, going off on tangents outside the context of the thread and what not, heh.

LSD still exists and makes the rounds. The illegality and cultural history of it have made it somewhat exclusive, and lent it the mystique of being some Holy Grail of psychedelics. It's a great "full spectrum" psychedelic, but that's it. People expect to have an amazing time with it because they've got THE LSD -- and behold, psychological priming works! If 4-AcO-DMT or 2C-E or DPT could have magically been put on blotters in the 60's and transferred into the experience of everyone who took acid back then one of them would have the mystique today and LSD, while probably ending up as one of the more popular designer legals, would nevertheless be called a "dirty" "synthetic" RC by many others out of sheer ignorance.
 
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psood0nym said:
^I think EnchantedMonkey up there is posting while intoxicated, going off on tangents outside the context of the thread and what not, heh.

LSD still exists and makes the rounds. The illegality and cultural history of it have lent it the mystique of being some Holy Grail of psychedelics. It's a great "full spectrum" psychedelic, but that's it. If 4-AcO-DMT or 2C-E or DPT could have magically been put on blotters in the 60's and transferred into the experience of everyone who took acid back then one of them would have the mystique today and LSD, while probably ending up as one of the more popular designer legals, would nevertheless be called a "dirty" "synthetic" RC by many others out of sheer ignorance.
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Well, everything is subjective. What I REALLY want to try is mescaline, but I've been to lazy to order a San Pedro cactus and look for mescaline isolation teks :S
 
An overwhelming majority of tested "LSD" samples in recent times were found negative for LSD. The scenarios varied from the sample being just paper, to, in most instances containing compounds such as DO(x) and 25(x)-NBOME. In addition, there have been multiple instances where unintentional use of these substances has resulted in hospitalization. The only way to assure you are getting real LSD is to get it from someone you trust AND test it. Here is a guide that might help you to rule out other compounds when you don't have a test kit, but seriously, get a test kit, they aren't that expensive.
 
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