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Another thread got me to thinking about something I've often pondered....
We all react to drugs differently and metabolize them differently. Not only does it mean that the necessary dosages vary but also that the effects we experience can be entirely different. I thought I'd open this up to discussion of our experiences that tend to vary from the "normal" experiences on any given drug.
I'll start with some abnormalities I've found in my experience:
1) Psilocybin shrooms--From everything I've read, most people find shrooms to be one of the most visual psychedelic substances there are; many people say that they are more visual lsd.
I have had shrooms on 5 occasions. While I definitely tripped very very hard (extreme mindfuck), I have never had any visuals on them....none whatsoever. I've had extremely vivid visuals on lsd, some good visuals on 5meodipt, and mild visuals on mdma...but no visuals on shrooms. I have no explanation for this except that we all metabolize things differently.
2) MDMA--Almost everyone seems to experience a strong entactogenic (touchy-feely) aspect on E where having someone touch you or you touching something else feels abnormally good. In addition, they experience the whole lovey feeling as if everything is wonderful...a feeling of general peacefulness and a general love for everything.
I've taken what are known to be good pills on a number of occasions. I can honestly say that I have not experienced either of the above effects. I have felt very stimulated and I definitely feel euphoria. I also get visuals, especially in the peripheral vision. Lastly, I also get an erotic stimulation but I tend to get that on most psychedelics. There are two explanations I've come up with for this. The first is that perhaps I've only had MDA pills and not MDMA pills because my effects seem to be more typical of MDA. The only problem is that this is the same for all the pills I've tried and all were supposed to be MDMA and most were listed on either dansesafe or pillreports websites and listed as MDMA. The other possible explanation is that I may not be taking a large enough dose. I recently read in an article that a smaller dose will give you more of the stimulating effects but lack the entactogenic and lovey feelings that a high dose provide. I usually take around 2-4 pills in an evening, depending on the pill and the night. I've never taken more than 4...perhaps I'm a hardhead with this substance and require more to enlighten me? However, on a few occasions when taking 3 or 4 pills I throw up at some point...and in my experience, if it's enough to make you throw up then it's enough to give you the full effects. Maybe I should do a test run at 5-6 pills sometime?
3) 2CT7--The active dose for this item (orally) seems to be anywhere from 15mg to 35mg depending on the person. I've tried this item on three different occasions. My first attempt was with 20mg oral; I felt nothing. A few weeks later, I tried again at 35mg; once again, I felt absolutely nothing. Then a few months later, I tried a final attempt ingesting a total of 60mg in a span of about 2 hours (30mg+15mg+15mg); remarkably, I again felt nothing...not a single thing, no stomach upset, no visuals, no stimulation, not a damn thing! The only explanation I have for this is that I am a total hardhead when it comes to this substance. I received it from a reputable source (the one that recently closed their doors). A couple people have recommended snorting it but I seem to have delicate sinuses and all the reports detail extreme sinus pain so I think I'll refrain from this. I may at some point attempt either plugging it or trying it intramuscularly.
4) 5MeoDIPT--A lot of people report stomach and intestinal distress from this substance (diarrhea, vomiting). Also, most people don't report much in the way of visuals.
I've taken this a whole lot of times. I seem to get some abnormally good visuals on this. Most people say they don't get any visuals from this substance...some report mild visuals. I seem to get visuals that are better than E but not quite lsd (and better than shrooms but that's only cause I don't get anything from shrooms). The visuals are comprised of some trails and a lot of fractal pattern formation. Also of note, I have never experienced any gastrointestinal distress whatsoever. I've only tried this in the 6-16mg range and I tend to prefer it around 8mg. However, I tend to experience most of the visuals when I breach the 12mg barrier but at this dose I start getting a bit of mindfuck (like a light lsd dose)...and I tend to take this substance in settings for which a mindfuck is not appropriate. On a related note, I find this to be a very nice substance...a low dose is good for settings that require mental facilities and a high dose starts to go enter low dose acid effects.
5) Cocaine--Most people find that they may have some lingering sinus problems after snorting coc. These effects seem to last anywhere from a couple hours to a day or two afterwards.
I'm not sure if I'm allergic to cocaine or if it's just because I have more sensitive sinuses but after a night of binging on coc I tend to have sinus problems for the next two weeks (yes, that's weeks not days). At first I thought it was just that I was getting poor quality coc but then after more experience with rather pure coc, I found that the more pure the coc, the worse the sinus problems were. As a result, I never touch the stuff. On a related note, does this have any effect if you either plug it or IM it? I've never read reports of either.
We all react to drugs differently and metabolize them differently. Not only does it mean that the necessary dosages vary but also that the effects we experience can be entirely different. I thought I'd open this up to discussion of our experiences that tend to vary from the "normal" experiences on any given drug.
I'll start with some abnormalities I've found in my experience:
1) Psilocybin shrooms--From everything I've read, most people find shrooms to be one of the most visual psychedelic substances there are; many people say that they are more visual lsd.
I have had shrooms on 5 occasions. While I definitely tripped very very hard (extreme mindfuck), I have never had any visuals on them....none whatsoever. I've had extremely vivid visuals on lsd, some good visuals on 5meodipt, and mild visuals on mdma...but no visuals on shrooms. I have no explanation for this except that we all metabolize things differently.
2) MDMA--Almost everyone seems to experience a strong entactogenic (touchy-feely) aspect on E where having someone touch you or you touching something else feels abnormally good. In addition, they experience the whole lovey feeling as if everything is wonderful...a feeling of general peacefulness and a general love for everything.
I've taken what are known to be good pills on a number of occasions. I can honestly say that I have not experienced either of the above effects. I have felt very stimulated and I definitely feel euphoria. I also get visuals, especially in the peripheral vision. Lastly, I also get an erotic stimulation but I tend to get that on most psychedelics. There are two explanations I've come up with for this. The first is that perhaps I've only had MDA pills and not MDMA pills because my effects seem to be more typical of MDA. The only problem is that this is the same for all the pills I've tried and all were supposed to be MDMA and most were listed on either dansesafe or pillreports websites and listed as MDMA. The other possible explanation is that I may not be taking a large enough dose. I recently read in an article that a smaller dose will give you more of the stimulating effects but lack the entactogenic and lovey feelings that a high dose provide. I usually take around 2-4 pills in an evening, depending on the pill and the night. I've never taken more than 4...perhaps I'm a hardhead with this substance and require more to enlighten me? However, on a few occasions when taking 3 or 4 pills I throw up at some point...and in my experience, if it's enough to make you throw up then it's enough to give you the full effects. Maybe I should do a test run at 5-6 pills sometime?
3) 2CT7--The active dose for this item (orally) seems to be anywhere from 15mg to 35mg depending on the person. I've tried this item on three different occasions. My first attempt was with 20mg oral; I felt nothing. A few weeks later, I tried again at 35mg; once again, I felt absolutely nothing. Then a few months later, I tried a final attempt ingesting a total of 60mg in a span of about 2 hours (30mg+15mg+15mg); remarkably, I again felt nothing...not a single thing, no stomach upset, no visuals, no stimulation, not a damn thing! The only explanation I have for this is that I am a total hardhead when it comes to this substance. I received it from a reputable source (the one that recently closed their doors). A couple people have recommended snorting it but I seem to have delicate sinuses and all the reports detail extreme sinus pain so I think I'll refrain from this. I may at some point attempt either plugging it or trying it intramuscularly.
4) 5MeoDIPT--A lot of people report stomach and intestinal distress from this substance (diarrhea, vomiting). Also, most people don't report much in the way of visuals.
I've taken this a whole lot of times. I seem to get some abnormally good visuals on this. Most people say they don't get any visuals from this substance...some report mild visuals. I seem to get visuals that are better than E but not quite lsd (and better than shrooms but that's only cause I don't get anything from shrooms). The visuals are comprised of some trails and a lot of fractal pattern formation. Also of note, I have never experienced any gastrointestinal distress whatsoever. I've only tried this in the 6-16mg range and I tend to prefer it around 8mg. However, I tend to experience most of the visuals when I breach the 12mg barrier but at this dose I start getting a bit of mindfuck (like a light lsd dose)...and I tend to take this substance in settings for which a mindfuck is not appropriate. On a related note, I find this to be a very nice substance...a low dose is good for settings that require mental facilities and a high dose starts to go enter low dose acid effects.
5) Cocaine--Most people find that they may have some lingering sinus problems after snorting coc. These effects seem to last anywhere from a couple hours to a day or two afterwards.
I'm not sure if I'm allergic to cocaine or if it's just because I have more sensitive sinuses but after a night of binging on coc I tend to have sinus problems for the next two weeks (yes, that's weeks not days). At first I thought it was just that I was getting poor quality coc but then after more experience with rather pure coc, I found that the more pure the coc, the worse the sinus problems were. As a result, I never touch the stuff. On a related note, does this have any effect if you either plug it or IM it? I've never read reports of either.
