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ABC2 : 10.6.09 - Ben: Diary of a Heroin Addict

That documentary put me off drugs for a while. Its just sad. Ive been thinking alot lately and if u out weigh the positive and negative u get waaay more negatives. I wanna live and see my grandchildren. Do u guys think illicit drugs would shorten a life span of a person?
 
^^ I think they definitely do. Both through directly impacting your health, but also indirectly - through worse nutrition, higher stress, and a higher risk of accidents/violence just by being in the drug world...
 
Sustanon said:
That documentary put me off drugs for a while. Its just sad. Ive been thinking alot lately and if u out weigh the positive and negative u get waaay more negatives. I wanna live and see my grandchildren. Do u guys think illicit drugs would shorten a life span of a person?
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I have no doubt drugs have an affect on the body and therefore the lifespan of an individual. Think about how you feel after a big weekend on the gear and tell me that amount of stress isn't going to affect your health and therefore your lifespan.
 
footscrazy said:
^^ I think they definitely do. Both through directly impacting your health, but also indirectly - through worse nutrition, higher stress, and a higher risk of accidents/violence just by being in the drug world...
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They definately impact your health but I'm not too sure about the worse nutrition and higher stress part of it.

I'm probably what you'd call a heavy user of MDMA, almost every weekend for the past few years or so, with months off here and there, using base and coke occasionally and drinking a lot on weekends.

However, I'm as fit as I've ever been due to sport and gym all week and the only stress I'm facing is from uni exams this week, so I did have this weekend off the gear.

But my nutrition is excellent and I'm very healthy.

What I'm saying is that just because I use drugs doesn't mean it is negatively impacting the rest of my life. During the week I'm a different person, but on weekends I just love to party. I have never increased my drug use to during the week, I don't even drink during the week, too much stuff to do, but on weekends I definately let loose.

It is a lot about self control and knowing what you want. I'm using drugs the same now as I was 3 or 4 yrs ago when I started. Probably the main thing I've noticed is that my short term memory has been affected a bit, but I'm currently taking piracetam and choline bitrate to help combat that.

This is just my personal opinion on it, of course not everyone is the same!
 
I live a pretty healthy lifestyle. My job requires for me too be fit. Im actually cautious about my diet and i eat alot of vitamins. I havnt been doin big amounts of drugs frequently. I have done so much in the past mixed with roids its not funny. 9 years on and off with smaller bigger breaks mixed with daily use. I just dont want it to catch up with me. Sometimes i get pains here and there like in the kidney or on odd occasions heart and liver. I dont want to think we are killing ourselves.
 
just got around to finally finish watching this.


i think i should show this to my good mate , who i suspect is slowly becomin addicted to smack.
 
Yeh definitely worth watching. sad but very interesting / raw insight into herion addiction.
 
Thanks to hoptis for the ABC iview.

I've only watched about half of this so far. Admittedly, i'm not a heroin user and have never been tempted to try it, but even so, it's still quite heart wrenching.
I almost stopped the video because it reduced me to tears.

Back I go to watch the rest of it.
 
I watched Ben's documentary a while ago. I'm not sure I'd be able to watch it again but if I'm feeling particularly self-destructive/depressed, I have it bookmarked so I can give myself a wake-up call/ass-kicker. It's fucking tragic. I'll never forget the "I love you, Dad. I love you too, Ben." His father's voice is so complex: he's dying, he's beyond exhausted, he's sick of his son, but he still loves him with all his heart.

Ben's internal monster was too powerful for him. He just didn't have it in him to beat that thing. His relationship with his camera is really intense. If he'd been able to form that relationship earlier maybe some of that voracious monster would have found an outlet in art.

It's been months since I watched it, and my head's still filled with specific memories from that film. Black Tar Heroin: the Dark End of the Street is also good in a similar gut-wrenching way, especially the segments with the blond-haired kid who descends fully into hell. But Ben's helplessness is just particularly painful. Physically, he's such a leaf-thin, fragile shell but emotionally he's so far from empty despite all of the liquor and dope he was using in the attempt to annihilate his emotions.
 
Some full on scenes..


My damn gf is calling me a drug addict (unsure if she is being totally serious) cause i smoke weed everyday and take the occasional benzo etc...hardly a drug addict. I don't consider pot to be addictive. I stop occasionaly..albeit briefly..when i run out lol.

i am going to show her this.
 
^ I'm a daily user of cannabis and I consider myself addicted... daily use = addiction I think..... I'm the same as you, I run out and have a brief break before I'm back on.

It all comes down to what you define as addiction though, this changes for different people.
 
is it really mind over matter?
sometimes i think not, temptation is a wonderfully destructive thing
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i dont consider daily use addiction
unless that use is insatiable and one is unable to stop
but yes, the term is very subjective

i just finished watching Ben's documentary, very moving
its a shame, life is a gift
to speed up life is nothing less than an atrocity :(

makes you appreciate what you have
the life you lead, the bright side to life

R.I.P Ben
and to all those who lost their life in such a terrible way
...
 
Sustanon said:
That documentary put me off drugs for a while. Its just sad. Ive been thinking alot lately and if u out weigh the positive and negative u get waaay more negatives. I wanna live and see my grandchildren. Do u guys think illicit drugs would shorten a life span of a person?
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It depends on what drugs, what ROA, if you are using responsibly or are dependent.

Albert Hoffman lived for 102 years (January 11, 1906 – April 29, 2008). I'm sure LSD won't shorten your life span. Marijuana also won't shorten your life span.

Hugs & Drugs said:
to speed up life is nothing less than an atrocity :(
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Does that make time dilation a good thing? ;)

I'm downloading the documentary now, from the comments I suspect this is going to be a very worthwhile watch.

A very moving documentary.

Rather tragic how he died.
 
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I haven't cried since Forest Gump came out on DVD.
But this doco, this really made me think.
I've never tried Heroin before, when i first started using drugs i'd always say i'd steer clear of Heroin. This doco just reassured me that I never want to go down that path, i'm no way strong enough as some people to quit.

In a way, Ben's life and sadly his death has helpt more people and saved more lives then he can imagine.
 
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i watched this a while ago.

a lot of the time i wishing i could get that stoned, on what they appeared to spend very little on.
compared to here.

and we get n*4 white out here, yet they were using tar , or n*3 brown, and seemed to get smashed.

but yeah, really hardcore addiction. and painfull to see someone who couldnot help himself.

it really did make me think about my own opiate addiction, and how i was thankfull that my oldies did not enable it like thet did with him. but still, its a tough call isnt it. as they said, at least they knew where he was and that he was eating etc.
im sure it will effect a lot of people and elicit a variety of emotional responses.

the last scenes of his life, where he couldnt find a vein and eventually did, after hours of asking and screaming at hinself"why"....
and then die in detox..... were very harrowing for myself.

black tar heroin is another good doco.
 
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