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A Warning To All PST Users

I too have used PST. It actually is great in helping reduce pain, more than other harmful pills in fact. But the thing that got me, was the other "unknowns" in the tea (heavy metals, dirt, pesticides), you just never know what is in it. The overall high was nothing too great either in comparison with "real" drugs. But it did work for pain.

I don't use it anymore, and that smell just makes me want to vomit. The thing is, I am really surprised authorities (not just here in AU, but around the world) have not either outright banned the seeds, or place some sort of regulations on them. The pods as well....why is this? Is it because it can not be injected? Or the vile taste and smell? Or the fact that it is really a niche market? Anyone have any sort of info on this? I know the are used extensively in food, but we all know what kind of new bastards the DEA/Drug police are, they will stop at nothing.
 
diazepam half life; 20–100 hours (36–200 hours for main active metabolite ).

a lot of the benzos have a long half life so even using the day after could been enough to put someone over. Just because you don't feel it doesn't mean it's not in your system.

I doubt seeds will be banned, it's pretty niche drug anyway and many seeds are washed these days . It's a pretty major foodstuff I think even the DEA knows that banning would be taking things a little too far.
 
pretty sure alpraz is like 12hrs, its potent but short acting/lasting. diaz does indeed have a very long half life and that is why it is used to taper with, from what i have heard/read. please shoot me down though.
 
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Depending on the individual half life of alpraz can be from 6-16 hours. 12 would be the mean.

Mean plasma concentration for a 1mg oral dose of Alprazolam;

1 hr (Tmax) 15ng/ml
12hr (Half-life) 7.5ng/ml aka 50% of dose still circulating in plasma
24hr 5ng/ml , 33%
36hr 2.5ng/ml 16%
48hr 2ng/ml 13%
72hr close to 0ng/ml at this point alprazolam has been eliminated to the extent to which amounts found are no longer clinically significant.

So half lifes don't tell the whole story it's all about the elimination curve , in this case you're not that much better off at 24hr as at 12hr as only 15% of the drug is eliminated during this 12 hour interval. Depending on starting dose interactions are still a possibility even at 36 hours after original dose.
This is only Alprazolam itself in circulation and not it's metabolites like alpha-hydroxy alprazolam the most pharmacologically active metabolite which has a longer half life still (not sure how long).

So keep this in mind if you plan on taking large doses of opiates the day after xanax,
 
Glad to hear you are alright mate.

This is a good reminder that PST is not as safe as many might think, while it is important to highlight that poly drug use was a factor it is equally important to note that you managed to poly drug use a number of opiates and benzo's which come in known doses in a closer frequency than you ran into trouble with the PST. This is not an advertisment for poly drug use, but I do feel it is important to highlight while it was no doubt a big factor so was the inability to dose consistently with PST. A lot of people use benzo's and it can be easy to forget their half-life, I know for me this has lead to a good many nights on the piss where I got a lot more fucked up than I intended, if you are dosing an opiate in the next day or two, particularly one of unknown dosage like PST, you run a real risk of shit like this happening.
 
oldirtybizza said:
diazepam half life; 20–100 hours (36–200 hours for main active metabolite ).

a lot of the benzos have a long half life so even using the day after could been enough to put someone over. Just because you don't feel it doesn't mean it's not in your system.

I doubt seeds will be banned, it's pretty niche drug anyway and many seeds are washed these days . It's a pretty major foodstuff I think even the DEA knows that banning would be taking things a little too far.
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you'd be surprised at how many seeds are unwashed or just giving a small wash allowing people to do and extraction......i didnt take valium i took xanax witch has a half life of 11.2 hours and it was well over 11.2 hours since i had taken the xanax and i took 3mg as oldirtybizza pointed (that i was unaware of) it can last much longer in your system
 
drug_mentor said:
Glad to hear you are alright mate.

This is a good reminder that PST is not as safe as many might think, while it is important to highlight that poly drug use was a factor it is equally important to note that you managed to poly drug use a number of opiates and benzo's which come in known doses in a closer frequency than you ran into trouble with the PST. This is not an advertisment for poly drug use, but I do feel it is important to highlight while it was no doubt a big factor so was the inability to dose consistently with PST. A lot of people use benzo's and it can be easy to forget their half-life, I know for me this has lead to a good many nights on the piss where I got a lot more fucked up than I intended, if you are dosing an opiate in the next day or two, particularly one of unknown dosage like PST, you run a real risk of shit like this happening.
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yeah %100 agree with everything u said mate and thanks everyone for the well wishs
 
Good to hear you came out ok Junkie. It's easy to forget just how fragile life can really be.

One thing I always try and do, is lie down in the recovery position rather than on my back, if I'm on any drugs there's even a possibility I could pass out on. Lying on your side in this way makes it less likely that you'll breathe in your vomit if you do throw up. It's something that's really good to get into the habit of doing, and could make the difference between life and death.

 
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Fucking hell that was a chilling story. Glad you are okay. I'm also tapering off PST and this certainly struck a chord. I now consider myself fortunate that I never had an experience like this given that I tend to use various suppliers, high doses and benzos too.

Did you avoid all permanent damage?

I made a thread not long ago about my current progress tapering off PST. If you can be bothered you should make a post letting us know how you are going. It's good to know that I'm not the only one trying to get off these fucking seeds man.
 
glad to hear your ok junkie scumbag,
check yourself before you wreck yourself
 
Would be considered sourcing if he shared where he got them from? I mean they are completely legal to buy and possess. I just think it could potentially save somebody from a terrible accident.
 
^ I get what you're saying, but I would rather that the source isn't posted. Mainly because batches change frequently from the one supplier - what was there one week probably won't be there the next. Often the larger, wholesale bags don't have batch numbers printed on them either. Also, I'd worry it'd get used for the opposite effects - just like when there's a flush of smack OD's and that stuff actually gets sought out as the shit everyone wants, because it's stronger, there's a chance posting that batch could just lead people to actually go looking for the seeds junkie OD'd on.
 
junkie skumbag said:
you'd be surprised at how many seeds are unwashed or just giving a small wash allowing people to do and extraction......i didnt take valium i took xanax witch has a half life of 11.2 hours and it was well over 11.2 hours since i had taken the xanax and i took 3mg as oldirtybizza pointed (that i was unaware of) it can last much longer in your system
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It's worthwhile to mention that while the parent drug, alprazolam has a half life somewhere close to 11 hours, it has active metabolites (oxazepam is one from memory) that have their own half lives on top of this.
 
footscrazy said:
^ I get what you're saying, but I would rather that the source isn't posted. Mainly because batches change frequently from the one supplier - what was there one week probably won't be there the next. Often the larger, wholesale bags don't have batch numbers printed on them either. Also, I'd worry it'd get used for the opposite effects - just like when there's a flush of smack OD's and that stuff actually gets sought out as the shit everyone wants, because it's stronger, there's a chance posting that batch could just lead people to actually go looking for the seeds junkie OD'd on.
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Valid points. I guess that is the inherent nature of poppy seeds and the like. I mean that same issue exists with most street drugs but I guess people are far more likely to underestimate and far less likely to take precautions with poppy seeds than say, smack.
 
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