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I will apologize in advance if this is sort of lengthy, but I wanted to be sure I had as many details as possible, for the sake of more accurate advice.
I have been helping my best friend, of literally 20 years, battle a nasty 7 year long opiate addiction. Severn months ago she was able to find a doctor who put her on Suboxone, and her life has increasingly improved. This doctor is a no nonsense kind of guy, who just went and took the class to be able to prescribe Suboxone, and my friend is only his third patient. You're only allowed to be in the program for a year, and each month, your dosage is dropped. Her last appointment, almost a month ago, he suddenly dropped her from 1 1/2 of the 2 mg strips daily, to a 1/2 of a 2 mg strip. So, 2.5 mgs a day to 1 mg a day out of nowhere. She is 5 days away from her next appointment, and has been having withdrawal symptoms the entire month.
She confessed to me that she just began taking Alprozolam (Xanax) to help ease the withdrawal symptoms, but this will get her kicked out from the program, and we live in a very rural, podunk area, with the next closest suboxone doctor being over 2 hours away, one way. From my understanding, xanax has a half-life of around 12 hours (more or less depending on which site you look at), and also stays in your urine a lot longer than many other drugs besides valium. By using a half-life of 12 hours, I was trying to figure out if this would be out of her system by the time she takes her urine test at 8:00 A.M. Wednesday morning. If she had just taken the one dose, I could probably get a round about figure, however, I will post the times and milligrams taken below, and if you'd be so kind, those knowledgeable about the subject, please give your opinion(s) and/or advice. Also, I will include a few more details in the event they may help.
She will be giving a urine specimen using the NexScreen (FDA-cleared, CLIA-waived, CE marked) urine cup. This cup provides 100% correlation at 25% and 50% above and below the cut-off. It's one that you peel away the label, read the color coded results, and it offers a range of 14 drug and 6 adulterant screens. The urine specimen after that is ALSO sent to a SAMHSA certified lab (LabCorp) where GC/MS screening/testing is used. The screening cutoff for benzos is 300 ng/mL (can someone also explain/break this down for me sometime too, please?)
She is in her mid to late 20's, 5'9", 143 lbs, moderately active and in pretty good shape. She takes B12 supplements on a daily basis and has for a while, a daily vitamin, and a "cleansing supplement" that she's sworn by for the last 6 months which she says cleans her body of toxins.
Here's the schedule of the amounts and when she took the benzos:
**Thursday**
2:00 P.M. - 1 mg
3:00 P.M. - 0.5 mg
7:30 P.M. - 0.5 mg
Thursday Total: 2.0 mgs
**Friday**
6:00 A.M. - 0.5 mg
8:00 A.M. - 0.5 mg
4:00 P.M. - 1.0 mg
10:00 P.M. - 0.5 mg
Friday Total: 2.5 mgs
**Saturday**
9:00 A.M. - 0.5 mg
12:00 P.M. - 1.0 mg
5:00 P.M. - 1.0 mg
8:00 P.M. - 0.5 mg
Saturday Total - 3.0 mgs
**Sunday**
10:00 - 0.5 mg
1:00 - 1.0 mg
6:00 - 0.5 mg
Sunday Total - 2.0 mgs
Any way this could be out of her system, or at least a low enough dose when the NexScreen cup won't detect it? Also, for future reference, if I were to use the "half-life" method to try to figure out how long something will be in someone's system like above, would I do it this way:
Start at the 2:00 P.M. dose, and add together all the milligrams that were taken until 2:00 A.M. (that would be 12 hours from first dose, and then divide that by two. Once I have that number at 2:00 A.M. add all the milligrams they took from them until 2:00 P.M. again (the next 12 hours), get a total, and divide that one by 2, and so on until the person isn't taking anything anymore, and then you would just divide it in half every 12 hours until it is completely out of their system. Please. ANY input is appreciated. Thanks and love to you all!
I have been helping my best friend, of literally 20 years, battle a nasty 7 year long opiate addiction. Severn months ago she was able to find a doctor who put her on Suboxone, and her life has increasingly improved. This doctor is a no nonsense kind of guy, who just went and took the class to be able to prescribe Suboxone, and my friend is only his third patient. You're only allowed to be in the program for a year, and each month, your dosage is dropped. Her last appointment, almost a month ago, he suddenly dropped her from 1 1/2 of the 2 mg strips daily, to a 1/2 of a 2 mg strip. So, 2.5 mgs a day to 1 mg a day out of nowhere. She is 5 days away from her next appointment, and has been having withdrawal symptoms the entire month.
She confessed to me that she just began taking Alprozolam (Xanax) to help ease the withdrawal symptoms, but this will get her kicked out from the program, and we live in a very rural, podunk area, with the next closest suboxone doctor being over 2 hours away, one way. From my understanding, xanax has a half-life of around 12 hours (more or less depending on which site you look at), and also stays in your urine a lot longer than many other drugs besides valium. By using a half-life of 12 hours, I was trying to figure out if this would be out of her system by the time she takes her urine test at 8:00 A.M. Wednesday morning. If she had just taken the one dose, I could probably get a round about figure, however, I will post the times and milligrams taken below, and if you'd be so kind, those knowledgeable about the subject, please give your opinion(s) and/or advice. Also, I will include a few more details in the event they may help.
She will be giving a urine specimen using the NexScreen (FDA-cleared, CLIA-waived, CE marked) urine cup. This cup provides 100% correlation at 25% and 50% above and below the cut-off. It's one that you peel away the label, read the color coded results, and it offers a range of 14 drug and 6 adulterant screens. The urine specimen after that is ALSO sent to a SAMHSA certified lab (LabCorp) where GC/MS screening/testing is used. The screening cutoff for benzos is 300 ng/mL (can someone also explain/break this down for me sometime too, please?)
She is in her mid to late 20's, 5'9", 143 lbs, moderately active and in pretty good shape. She takes B12 supplements on a daily basis and has for a while, a daily vitamin, and a "cleansing supplement" that she's sworn by for the last 6 months which she says cleans her body of toxins.
Here's the schedule of the amounts and when she took the benzos:
**Thursday**
2:00 P.M. - 1 mg
3:00 P.M. - 0.5 mg
7:30 P.M. - 0.5 mg
Thursday Total: 2.0 mgs
**Friday**
6:00 A.M. - 0.5 mg
8:00 A.M. - 0.5 mg
4:00 P.M. - 1.0 mg
10:00 P.M. - 0.5 mg
Friday Total: 2.5 mgs
**Saturday**
9:00 A.M. - 0.5 mg
12:00 P.M. - 1.0 mg
5:00 P.M. - 1.0 mg
8:00 P.M. - 0.5 mg
Saturday Total - 3.0 mgs
**Sunday**
10:00 - 0.5 mg
1:00 - 1.0 mg
6:00 - 0.5 mg
Sunday Total - 2.0 mgs
Any way this could be out of her system, or at least a low enough dose when the NexScreen cup won't detect it? Also, for future reference, if I were to use the "half-life" method to try to figure out how long something will be in someone's system like above, would I do it this way:
Start at the 2:00 P.M. dose, and add together all the milligrams that were taken until 2:00 A.M. (that would be 12 hours from first dose, and then divide that by two. Once I have that number at 2:00 A.M. add all the milligrams they took from them until 2:00 P.M. again (the next 12 hours), get a total, and divide that one by 2, and so on until the person isn't taking anything anymore, and then you would just divide it in half every 12 hours until it is completely out of their system. Please. ANY input is appreciated. Thanks and love to you all!
