A serious thread about online poker

[KamMoye]

10 gms is too much, may as well grind my normal hours for that much work. i know by the 3rd game id be bored.

we can do 3 $100 HU w/ u paying for my rake + min wage

 

[Crack4Lyfe]

10 gms is too much, may as well grind my normal hours for that much work. i know by the 3rd game id be bored.

we can do 3 $100 HU w/ u paying for my rake + min wage

but you are really bad, pretty obvious this isn't a serious offer....

 

[StrutterGear]

Just found out my ROI is 19%, not bad for a casual player. Note to self :: Make a deposit next week.

 

[Fjones]

Just found out my ROI is 19%, not bad for a casual player. Note to self :: Make a deposit next week.

It's tough to evaluate a 19% ROI in a vacuum. What games are you playing and how large is the sample size? At he very least this shows promise though.

 

[KamMoye]

but you are really bad, pretty obvious this isn't a serious offer....

u wanna put ur money where ur mouth is? methinks ur just a railbird 8)

 

[StrutterGear]

It's tough to evaluate a 19% ROI in a vacuum. What games are you playing and how large is the sample size? At he very least this shows promise though.

The whole of 2010, so a fair amount of games. But I didnt play in certain months due to work and college. Changing sites anyway, sick of Pokerstars, the bonuses dont offer me anything.

i normally play SnGs $3.40-4.20 18-45 players, and heads up $15-40 (2-4). i rarely play cash games but did take a big upswing last time I played one online.

 

[StrutterGear]

It would be better if I had a bankroll, but a deposit of 10-30 quid will result in me only playing the 3 dollar and up SnGs. I have no time for micro limits, no motivation to go the distance.

 

[Fjones]

The whole of 2010, so a fair amount of games. But I didnt play in certain months due to work and college. Changing sites anyway, sick of Pokerstars, the bonuses dont offer me anything.

i normally play SnGs $3.40-4.20 18-45 players, and heads up $15-40 (2-4). i rarely play cash games but did take a big upswing last time I played one online.

I don't like Pokerstars. But I thought their bonus structure was one of their better features? I prefer Full Tilt because I like the software better.

I don't know what a "fair number of games" means. 19% ROI is excellent for 18 man SNGs and very good for 45 man SNGs.

I don't know much about HU Sngs except that I hate them.

 

[muntedmunter]

10 gms is too much, may as well grind my normal hours for that much work. i know by the 3rd game id be bored.

we can do 3 $100 HU w/ u paying for my rake + min wage

I might take you up on that offer once my roll is bigger to play the 100s but atm I only have enough BIs to safely play the 50s.

I found a 2p2 reg who wants to play ten 50.00 games today and I don't have to pay rake so I'll see how I go.

GL at the tables

 

[muntedmunter]

Maybe it was a bad idea playing a reg, I don't usually have to 5bet bluff.. lol


Poker Stars $50.00+$2.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1110022
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): t1565 78.25 BBs
BTN/SB: t1435 71.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 4

5

BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero raises to t140, BTN/SB raises to t290, Hero raises to t640, 1 fold

Final Pot: t580
Hero shows 4

5

(high card Five)
Hero wins t580

 

[Crack4Lyfe]

u wanna put ur money where ur mouth is? methinks ur just a railbird 8)

You are terrible, stop trying to dick size.

 

[Crack4Lyfe]

You are sick in the head.

Maybe it was a bad idea playing a reg, I don't usually have to 5bet bluff.. lol


Poker Stars $50.00+$2.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1110022
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): t1565 78.25 BBs
BTN/SB: t1435 71.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 4

5

BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero raises to t140, BTN/SB raises to t290, Hero raises to t640, 1 fold

Final Pot: t580
Hero shows 4

5

(high card Five)
Hero wins t580

 

[KamMoye]

You are terrible, stop trying to dick size.

nou

 

[muntedmunter]

STRATEGY - lol.. zzz

Anyway same guy, so have some pretty good reads on him now.

Earlier in the match he simply donked out on a flop oop, he checked the turn as did I and when I did a small valueish bet on the river he snap folded...

So a few minutes later he took the exact same line, but when he checked the turn I decide to bet the turn just to take it down right there just incase he hits a 6 or w/e on the river which can be tilting. I'm pretty confident my A high is good here a good % of the time.

He times down and makes a weak looking raise, if he really had the Q he knows that I'm going to bet big on the river just like I did last time so he should just call and let me bet my bluffing range.

He min raises me and if I shove over it it sort of turns my hand into a bluff just incase he has a 6 or 4 so I call, on the river he bets pretty big and the only option here is to shove over the top because he never ever has a Q and he can't possibly call with a 6,4,3 and not much else is in his range.

I still think I'd be good there with my A high but sometimes just to be sure you need to shove to make sure.


Poker Stars $50.00+$2.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1110033
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN/SB): t1410 70.50 BBs
BB: t1590 79.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 9

A

Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) Q

6

Q

(2 players)
BB bets t40, Hero calls t40

Turn: (t200) 4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t140, BB raises to t300, Hero calls t160

River: (t800) 3

(2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero raises to t1010 all in, BB folds

Final Pot: t1600
Hero mucks 9

A

Hero wins t1600

 

[KamMoye]

terrible play imo

 

[Fjones]

I don't know much about HU but some of this seems pretty bad; especially the 4 5 offsuit. You are obviously calling if he shoves. If you think you have an edge on the guy why would you play 4 5 offsuit that way? Of course, it's easy to post that when it works... I doubt it gets posted the numerous other times it fails.

The A9 is a bit less clear to me but also seems like a terrible play. He's nearly committed. You have almost zero bluff equity. Your Ace high was obviously good if he folds, so what is the point of the raise? He's only calling if you are beat, and is almost certainly calling if you are beat.

If he snap calls there do you post the hand?

 

[Crack4Lyfe]

I don't know much about HU but some of this seems pretty bad; especially the 4 5 offsuit. You are obviously calling if he shoves. If you think you have an edge on the guy why would you play 4 5 offsuit that way? Of course, it's easy to post that when it works... I doubt it gets posted the numerous other times it fails.

The A9 is a bit less clear to me but also seems like a terrible play. He's nearly committed. You have almost zero bluff equity. Your Ace high was obviously good if he folds, so what is the point of the raise? He's only calling if you are beat, and is almost certainly calling if you are beat.

If he snap calls there do you post the hand?

Post your username

 

[muntedmunter]

Well the 45o was against a reg where we were playing a lot of matches so it was more of a level attempt / metagame.

If he shoved over the top I would of snap folded (still will have 40bb left) so he new I was 4bet/5bet bluffing which means in later games I can get more value out of the top 5% of my range. Plus showing that is so +EV since it will make him tilt more

I don't believe I had a massive edge against him but I did have an edge, plus through out the match I was 3betting him pre around 30% and he kept on folding, now when he picked up KK a few hands earlier he just flat called my 3bet... A few mins later, he KNOWS that I have a very wide 3betting range so he's going to flat just like last time and let me barrel off my stack - so with game flow I asked myself, why the f would he min4b me wiping out all my mediocre hands and him loosing value from all his hands - tbh it really just smelt like a bluff and his attempt to play back at me - plus it's +EV for me in later games (metagame)

With the A9 if you were railing the match he was calling close to 100% OOP against me, so his calling range was extremely wide, I was cbetting close to 100% and he kept on folding.

So once again, if I am cbetting him 100% of the time then he should check/call/chk/call etc etc, when he donks it's obvious he has total air JUST like the last hand I mentioned...

If I'm going to be letting a reg push me around in those type of spots and not think outside the box and constantly play my two cards, not his, then I'm going to be the super ABC reg who can only beat fish, can't beat regs and never move up to the 100s, 200s etc.

"He's only calling if you are beat, and is almost certainly calling if you are beat."

That's such level 1 thinking and so std, yeah it's true but I played that hand EXACTLY like a Q from his eyes and that's what matters, there's no way he can call there with a 6,4 or 3 and probably any PP below 9s... From his eyes it looks like I have 0% fold equity (he has around 15bb left) so it's actually a top notch play and a lot of other regs would agree with me - plus say he had Ax type hand, well I get him off a chop.

And yes I loose a lot of edge playing regs, but it helps with my game and NO I would never do this against a fish since it's just plain stupid, but against regs I'm always trying to improve my game, think outside the box and pwn their souls.

If it didn't work well I wouldn't have posted it cause I like to brag about my sik hands, my sik ROI and I always follow my instincts when playing my A game

nuff said

 

[Fjones]

Post your username

gogo diamant

Check me out on OPR. I'll pwn you.

 

[StrutterGear]

I don't like Pokerstars. But I thought their bonus structure was one of their better features? I prefer Full Tilt because I like the software better.

I don't know what a "fair number of games" means. 19% ROI is excellent for 18 man SNGs and very good for 45 man SNGs.

I don't know much about HU Sngs except that I hate them.

As far as I'm aware pokerstars bonuses only really cater for larger deposits and big grinds, which I don't have the time for. The one I'm moving to is on a result basis that I could achieve without extreme effort.