Do you, or anyone that knows about this process care to explain how this can be done?
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Do you, or anyone that knows about this process care to explain how this can be done?
BlueHues
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If the dope itself was decent, as an IV heroin user it would take a lot more than that to deter me....It's not ideal, and there's a chance of getting a bacterial infection, but I've had some periods of using IV practices that were far from sterile and I've never had an infection or became ill....There's a very string likeliehood your body will fight it off, and if you leave it to dry completely, a lot of the bacteria will die....
I've had bags break partially open and just let them dry and shot them.....The reality is, most people have no idea what their dope has come into contact with in the first place, there's bacteria everywhere...
I've always been afraid of getting endocarditis, but in my many years of shooting drugs I only know two people who've ever gotten it, one was from using puddle water and one was living on the streets shooting tar, using the same cooker for weeks on end, re-using needles...etc
Shooting the dope you puked up isn't 100% safe, but shooting dope never is. That's why it's called "Harm Reduction" not "Harm Elimination"....
I've had bags break partially open and just let them dry and shot them.....The reality is, most people have no idea what their dope has come into contact with in the first place, there's bacteria everywhere...
I've always been afraid of getting endocarditis, but in my many years of shooting drugs I only know two people who've ever gotten it, one was from using puddle water and one was living on the streets shooting tar, using the same cooker for weeks on end, re-using needles...etc
Shooting the dope you puked up isn't 100% safe, but shooting dope never is. That's why it's called "Harm Reduction" not "Harm Elimination"....
LilbabiC
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Here you go but, as I said if you aren't familiar with chemistry don't try it.
1.Dissolve the street heroin in water.
2.Use Hydrion pH papers to monitor the pH during this procedure. Add Sodium Hydroxide in solution dropwise while checking the pH. Use a narrow glass or plastic rod to touch a minimum of the drug solution to the paper to avoid loss. Stop when the pH reaches about 9.
3.Extract with chloroform. Chloroform is far superior to diethyl ether in that it is non-flammable and does not present storage problems, where explosive peroxides can be formed. Note: Chloroform is an ideal solvent for heroin, codeine, and most other opiates, with the major exception of morphine which requires a mixed solvent.
4.Separate the chloroform layer and wash with a minimum quantity of cold water: 1-2 ml works well. Evaporate the chloroform taking care not to burn the residue on the bottom of the beaker. Note: Chloroform is a known carcinogen, so plenty of ventilation (and a respirator) would be advisable. The chloroform is so volatile that this step is actually quite easy to perform.
5.Add a dilute solution of HCl dropwise while stirring with a glass rod. Monitor the pH closely. As the acid is being added, the diacetyl morphine base is being neutralized and converted into the water-soluble hydrochloride salt form.
6.When all the solid material has just dissolved, stop adding the HCl. I found that this takes place around pH 5-6. Note: If one tries to bring the pH all of the way up to 7, the free base alkaloid precipitates back out requiring addition of more HCl.
7.The resulting solution will be in an injectable form; it will now be completely clear with no colored impurities or particulate matter
1.Dissolve the street heroin in water.
2.Use Hydrion pH papers to monitor the pH during this procedure. Add Sodium Hydroxide in solution dropwise while checking the pH. Use a narrow glass or plastic rod to touch a minimum of the drug solution to the paper to avoid loss. Stop when the pH reaches about 9.
3.Extract with chloroform. Chloroform is far superior to diethyl ether in that it is non-flammable and does not present storage problems, where explosive peroxides can be formed. Note: Chloroform is an ideal solvent for heroin, codeine, and most other opiates, with the major exception of morphine which requires a mixed solvent.
4.Separate the chloroform layer and wash with a minimum quantity of cold water: 1-2 ml works well. Evaporate the chloroform taking care not to burn the residue on the bottom of the beaker. Note: Chloroform is a known carcinogen, so plenty of ventilation (and a respirator) would be advisable. The chloroform is so volatile that this step is actually quite easy to perform.
5.Add a dilute solution of HCl dropwise while stirring with a glass rod. Monitor the pH closely. As the acid is being added, the diacetyl morphine base is being neutralized and converted into the water-soluble hydrochloride salt form.
6.When all the solid material has just dissolved, stop adding the HCl. I found that this takes place around pH 5-6. Note: If one tries to bring the pH all of the way up to 7, the free base alkaloid precipitates back out requiring addition of more HCl.
7.The resulting solution will be in an injectable form; it will now be completely clear with no colored impurities or particulate matter
TimKT9
Bluelighter
Crazy ass story lol yea i'd agree and say thats not safe. Any info on what happened to your dealer?
TimKT9
Bluelighter
To the guy above me, not everyone is a scientist buddy
davidisraj
Greenlighter
To simplify LilbabiC's post for you non chemists, the heroin will have reacted some with the acid in your stomach and from the way you describe it I presume is also still slightly mixed with it, and you need to fix that. Unless you can be bothered reading up on the earlier mentioned chemistry I would NOT recommend shooting that.
Not exactly sure what's going to happen to him but hes being held on a $250,000 bond so in this state its 10% so its $25k for him to bond out. So far he's being charged with 3 felony accounts of manufacturing heroin. I know he had at least 200 g's of good ass dope at the house. He gets them in bundles of 50 g's and he had 4 bundles not even opened yet. Also being charged with 2 unregistered pistols and possession of marijuana which I'm sure is the least of his worries. I'm pretty sure its safe to say he's going to be gone for quite a few years. Sucks hes a really nice guy and only 24 years old, been going through him for the past 3 years now
TimKT9
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Wowwwww he will definitely be doin some hard time. What sucks man, sorry to hear that. What state are you in?
Nozphexezora
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And whatever you do, don't just do step 1 and skip straight to shooting it. :D
shimazu
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Please use proper citations for any material that is not yours. I found the exact procedure, word for word here on heroin helper, so your post should have that method in quotes followed by the link/source/citation, otherwise it is in violation of rules 2 and 3 of the BLUA
They mentioned that you shouldn't attempt the process unless you are familiar with chemistry, but that little warning probably wouldn't deter someone from trying the method. The site where I found that method posted goes further into warning against trying this process by outlining some of the risks.
[Editor's Note: The following method for purifying street heroin comes to us from a once infamous clandestine heroin chemist who has "gone straight". He has asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. He also asked that we be very clear that this recipe explains a serious chemical process with the resulting risks: (1) accidents made during process could cause harm in the form of explosions, toxic vapors, and unknown other threats to the safety of the would-be chemist and those in close proximity; (2) even if performed exactly as written, this recipe will not increase the quantity, only the quality of what was already there; (3) the very act of using this recipe breaks drug manufacturing laws (along with many others besides) that can result in multi-year prison sentences and even death as punishment. The recipe is provided for educational purposes only--and as such, it will likely be quite useful to students of beginning organic chemistry.] (source)
BlueHues
Bluelighter
Never with bags that have had shit seep into them, no!
BTH is often still moist when you get it and often cut will kinds of nasty shit. I'm sure it's loaded with bacteria....Bacteria likes moisture, and I've witnessed people who've routinely used IV equipment that was basically a breeding ground for bacteria...
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
^I've sniffed dope that was a bit, erm, smelly... It was a dark time in my life lol.
Perhaps a micron filter would be a wise investment?
Honestly, that purification procedure isn't that complicated, even if you don't understand chemistry. The only materials required are a glass jar/beaker or two, a separatory funnel/plastic bag, something to stir with (ideally a glass rod), and some pH monitoring equipment. Not to get too source specific, but using any OTC NaOH (sodium hydroxide) is not what you want. (Read: don't buy your everyday drain cleaner.) Though it's a bit confusing IMO talking about not raising the pH back up to 7. That isn't going to happen with the addition of excess HCl.
Perhaps a micron filter would be a wise investment?
Honestly, that purification procedure isn't that complicated, even if you don't understand chemistry. The only materials required are a glass jar/beaker or two, a separatory funnel/plastic bag, something to stir with (ideally a glass rod), and some pH monitoring equipment. Not to get too source specific, but using any OTC NaOH (sodium hydroxide) is not what you want. (Read: don't buy your everyday drain cleaner.) Though it's a bit confusing IMO talking about not raising the pH back up to 7. That isn't going to happen with the addition of excess HCl.
Lmfao damnit that's what i was thinking of doing. It just seems so much simpler that way.
I'm in Wisconsin btw.
I was worried about not having a connect after he went down but the very next day i got a call from a random number , a guy named <snip> told me he was taking over his business. I thought for sure it was police trying to set me up, cause how did this guy even get my number? But i went through with it and behold it was the exact same dope and the same price. Gota,love being higher up in the chain =) the police spent all this time and money taking down my guy and the very next day its like nothing even happened
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Be careful what you post on here. I removed the new dealers name since this site if frequented by law enforcement and they can figure out the bust you were referring to since you mention your state and when the bust went down. Then they can check your recently arrested dealers co-defendants, family members, or known acquaintances and perhaps figure out who took over the business with the information you have given, so keep that in mind for future posts.
Thanks for explaining more mod, im gona try this but i don't want to end up wasting the rest of my "puke" dope. Do you think the same process would work with a small amount like a half g? Ill let you know how it turns out tomorrow when I'm able to get all the proper equipment
What is the funnel used for though?
sniffed some smelly dope? Haha,i actually loled loud when i read that.
Bluehues im very curious to what you've seen worse than injecting puked up dope lol
What is the funnel used for though?
sniffed some smelly dope? Haha,i actually loled loud when i read that.
Bluehues im very curious to what you've seen worse than injecting puked up dope lol
Thank you tommy very much for looking out. I didn't put two and two together like you did about family, arrest record, ect... But that name is very commonly used by a gang, won't say the name, which are very active in my area. But thank you once again, i always try to do my best to stay 1 step ahead of the law. Been at this game for 10 years and I've had some close calls but never been caught up *knocks on wood*
something that your stomach can handle having in it is a world of difference from something a vein that leads directly to your heart can handle. a WORLD of difference. i put Italian dressing into my stomach all the time...but i think i would probably have a problem if i injected it into my veins. or how about soda? coffee? you get the point......
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captainchroni420
Bluelighter
you dont have to be a scientist to a know a bit of chemistry TimKT9
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
It should work fine with 0.5g. You can look up a pic of what I'm talking about, and if you don't want to get that, a crude one can be made using a plastic bag. You use it when separating layers (chloroform & water). If using the bag, pour in your solution & seal it, turn the bag so it's in a diamond shape & wait for the layers to re-separate. Depending on how much liquid you have, either cut a section of the corner out or poke it with a needle. I'm not sure which layer will rise to the top (I'm guessing water, but I have no idea. You want to put the bag over you collection container & let the goods flow in.