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A question about heroin

Dirtyven

Dirtyven

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How much heroin would kill an opiate-naiv person?
I don't know anything about heroin so if someone took a gram, let's say snorted it.
How long would it take for it to kick in?

Could you put powdered heroin in emptied out tramadol capsules if you'd want the heroin to kick in a bit later instead?
How long would it take to kick in? like when does it START to going into your body? after how long?
Would this change the first question? if so, in what way? would you need more or less to kill you?
Same dosage, what would happen if you took a gram like this?

I'm not into opiates, i'm just asking out of curiosity, i don't like opiates, and even if i did, i wouldn't wanna become addicted to heroin.

I might edit if i can think of more questions but i guess that's it for now

thanks in advance

peace

EDIT: Let's say it's lowgrade heroin
 
seems like alot of questions for someone who isnt interested in opiates, but anyways heroin is a street drug and with all street drugs, purity and strength varies from source to source so it is impossible to say how much would kill a person.

eating heroin is a waste because the oral BA is soo low so putting the dope into a capsule would be a waste of of time and money. if you are wanting to try heroin but to scared to IV, just snort that shit.

even knowing that the gear is low-grade, how low-grade is it? no one can tell you for sure.

the typical dosage for an opiate-naive person would be 1/2-2 bags depending on the strength. you always want to start low!
 
i don't wanna try it
and the examples were just with low grade heroin
i'm not gonna try heroin

so if you wanted the heroin to kick in 30m or 20-30m after ingesting it, capsules wouldn't do?
and explain why it would be pointless, seems interesting
 
lol you dont have to get all defensive, i dont care if you want to or not, but if you chose to do so, please be careful!

the oral BA of heroin is like 20-30%. so that means if you swallowed 100mgs of pure heroin., your body would only really absorb 20-30mgs of it.. such a waste IMO. heroin is usually done for the rush of euphoria it gives when injected, but the rush can also be felt somewhat through snorting it. there would be absolutely no rush from swallowing it especially if you take it in a capsule because it takes time for your stomach to dissolve the capsule fully

i doubt you will feel much of anything from swallowing heroin in a capsule. waste of time and money IMO. if you want to swallow opiates stick to oxycodone. i actualy prefer oxycodone over heroin to be honest
 
i'm sorry, i didn't mean to sound defensive, my apologies, i was just telling you i'm just curious
yeah i wanna try oxycodone, but i can't seem to get my hands on them
 
^ Heroin is not even psychoactive and does not bind to the opioid receptors in the brain and spinal cord. When heroin is IV'd it quickly crosses the BBB (due to the 2 acetyl groups attached to the morphine molecule) and is rapidly broken down into morphine (about 98% of it, which obviously does bind to the opioid receptors) and 6-monoacetylmorphine (roughly 2%, which also quickly breaks down into morphine). Oral administration of heroin will result in the breakdown of 100% of the heroin into morphine before it begins entering the bloodstream from the small intestines and so ingesting heroin orally is bio-equivalent to ingesting the same amount of morphine orally. They are essentially the same drug. Heroin is nothing more than a quick acting form of morphine. Heroin is not a drug in its own right, it is a prodrug for the systemic delivery of morphine. Taking "heroin" nasally or orally is taking morphine. IV is a little different as it crosses the BBB quickly, but it is still a morphine prodrug. Imagine IV heroin like this - it's a vehicle which takes morphine to the brain faster than morphine would get there on its own. So its like morphine is hitching a ride in a corvette to get dropped off where it needs to go instead of walking there. That is what heroin is. It is a quick acting form of morphine. It is not a psychoactive drug, it's not a drug at all. It's just simply a morphine prodrug.
 
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^This.

If you've never done opiates before, I don't recommend going right into heroin, even "low-grade" heroin. Since we have no idea what the purity of the heroin in question is (and you don't have any idea either) - it is, well, impossible to tell you exactly what doses you're dealing with here.

But yeah, what kokaino and laCster said
 
yeah no i was just using low grade as an example, i was just a bit curious so i had to ask
 
good post kokaino, i learn something new everyday!

i agree with NT, don't start with heroin as your first opiate, most people start with codeine or hydrocodone and work their way up, that's what i did, but i regret from ever taking them, they just aren't worth the pain and suffering that comes with them.

please stay away from opiates!
 
how long would it take for the heroin to become morphine if you put it in capsules?
and what would the equivalent be? 1g heroin ingested with a capsule = to how much morphine?
 
seriously though if you are thinking about doing opiates, start with weaker opiates because once you have tolerance there is no going back. i remember the good ol' days when i got wrecked off 15mgs hydrocodone
 
i'm not gonna do it though, that's what i'm saying, i just don't like opiates, i'm just curious
 
loool the only person who you are lieing to is yourself. it is whatever though, im just trying to help you out
 
Dirtyven said:
how long would it take for the heroin to become morphine if you put it in capsules?
and what would the equivalent be? 1g heroin ingested with a capsule = to how much morphine?
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1 gram of "heroin" is 1 gram of morphine. They are one drug. The heroin becomes morphine before crossing the BBB, so it is almost immediately converted into morphine (100% of it) in the liver when taken orally. When taken IV, the conversion becomes 98% morphine as 6-MAM is also produced (but it too is quickly converted into morphine).
 
laCster said:
loool the only person who you are lieing to is yourself. it is whatever though, im just trying to help you out
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i'm talking about curiosity of the facts of the whole opiate, heroin stuff, not interested in doing it
 
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