RCs a-pvp/a-pvt/mdpv etc and diminished pleasure from orgasm

[madaC]

The generalized title comes from me getting this effect from all of the above.

I've noticed that without a couple of days rest between uses of these substances, my orgasm, when I can reach it-is very diminished in intensity and is essentially ejac without any of the other accompanying pleasurable effects associated with orgasm. My performance or ability to maintain erection are only effects for a few hours after vaping, but these effects on orgasm have lasted to note for a few days.

This is frustrating, because I turn into a huge pervert/very horny when I do these drugs. My lady will come repeatedly, so she certainly doesn't mind me taking forever, but not coming or just not having any pleasure from coming is making me reconsider my use of the substances.

I was wondering if anyone else had noticed similar effects from this class of drugs?

 

[FlippingTop]

I have always noticed this when you have sex for like 4-5 hours and you are doing stimulants. Personally I combo these drugs with GHB and it feels like you are cumming non-stop anyway so it doesn't really matter but yeah the old 'trickle-orgasm' can be a bit of a let down.

I know this is harm reduction and all that but try having a whiff of poppers before you come to re-dilate those blood vessels and get a good love explosion back

 

[Crashing]

Yeah of course man, your dopamine is depleted from the stimulant so theres nothing to give you a rush by the time you get to orgasm. You're probably just using too much or too often.

 

[madaC]

Yes, pretty logical conclusion.

I'll add in some disconcerting kidney pain. Started work today after vaping a goodly amount in the morning. Proceeded to not drink enough fluids throughout a long line cooking shift.

All signs pointing to a period of length abstention.

 

[hatrix]

I feel the same way. Takes you like an hour to finally reach one and it's like wow.... nothing. What a waste of time.

 

[snubi]

Sme here. and then several hours later when i go to pee i pee sperm and trust me. a lot :D . its super wierd.

But it is possible to come, but you gotta do it yourself, or use a vibrator. Seriously i was getting a blow job for 30 minutes while i smoked pv hits constantly it just impossible. and even if you do it yourself, you ejaculate but no pleasure

 

[Quantum Mind]

Yeah of course man, your dopamine is depleted from the stimulant so theres nothing to give you a rush by the time you get to orgasm. You're probably just using too much or too often.

I believe it's the opposite; hyperactive dopaminergic tone leading to barely noticeable release of prolactin.

Normally at/after orgasm, prolactin is released, and dopamine levels drop, leading to feelings of satiety and the refractory period. However on CNS stims your dopaminergic system is in hyperdrive, and even if you do orgasm, dopamine stays rather elevated. Sine your dopamine system is still active only a negligible amount of prolactin is released.

In the end you feel like you haven't emptied your balls nearly enough or not at all, i.e. ejaculate comes out, but the usual statisfying feeling of having emptied your balls isn't there, plus total lack of refractory period. Even is you cum, you're not satisfied, still want mooar moar, chasing something that is unreachable, yet somehow enjoying the process. Then suddenly 24 hours have passed in what seemed to be 30 minutes and your dick is frikin swollen.

 

[steingalkrs]

I believe it's the opposite; hyperactive dopaminergic tone leading to barely noticeable release of prolactin.

Normally at/after orgasm, prolactin is released, and dopamine levels drop, leading to feelings of satiety and the refractory period. However on CNS stims your dopaminergic system is in hyperdrive, and even if you do orgasm, dopamine stays rather elevated. Sine your dopamine system is still active only a negligible amount of prolactin is released.

In the end you feel like you haven't emptied your balls nearly enough or not at all, i.e. ejaculate comes out, but the usual statisfying feeling of having emptied your balls isn't there, plus total lack of refractory period. Even is you cum, you're not satisfied, still want mooar moar, chasing something that is unreachable, yet somehow enjoying the process. Then suddenly 24 hours have passed in what seemed to be 30 minutes and your dick is frikin swollen.

AMEN!

From what I read here, is it possible to get synthetic prolactin? Sounds like somthing to smoke while cumming? LOL

 

[beforethebeginning]

I feel the same way. Takes you like an hour to finally reach one and it's like wow.... nothing. What a waste of time.

the term for it is "retrograde ejaculation"

 

[bluespeed]

My ability to orgasm varies WILDLY between stimulants. And I don't find any correlation between general euphoria and not reaching orgasm. I divide them into at least 3 groups: there are stims that make the procedure (sex/wanking) itself pleasurable but with diminished/no orgasm (pente, mdpv, apvp). Then there are stims tha make the procedure very pleasurable with even better orgasm (meph, meth and especially 4-fa). And finally stims that don't really make me very horny and the procedure is quite boring BUT the orgasm is the best I ever had (mdma, 6-apb). That is, when you finally make it there.


Conclusion, sex/masturb on MDPV and alike fucking suck because they're not really nothing special. It feels like utter waste of time as the orgasm is important for me, what a disappointment when one finally comes. Even the wank itself is nothing special. It just feels like pure animal urge that you have to do, not want to do.

Now 4-FA, that's a different story. It feels great all the time for several HOURS and I can ejaculate more than 5 times in night, with good orgasm every single time.