A newbie on bluelight and a newbie to dilaudid who has questions

[suchanewbie]

Hi, everyone.

I joined Bluelight because a friend of mine told me that this would be the best place to ask questions about my prescriptions. I have no idea if I am supposed to do the "swim" thing, but I am prescribed my medications. Any suggestions for further posting would be greatly appreciated, and do/don'ts would be, too. So, I suppose now that I will talk about my predicaments and medical issues that I've had for the past few years. I got shingles two years ago after having a horrible UTI that lasted for a few weeks. My shingles case took a few months to get rid of, and that was just the rash. I was diagnosed with post herpetic neuralgia after the rash went away. I'd say around 4 months of the onset shingles rash. I was switched from doctor to doctor which in turn led to my medications changing. Doctors did not want me on narcotics or really any pain medicine because most of them are assholes, and they viewed me as a young adult who probably would use them to get high. I was prescribed lortabs for a while, and then I was switched to tramadol for about a year. If the pain came to a point of vomiting or crying then I would take some of my old lortabs. Usually half a pill. After my nerve pain practically went away, I was in a bad car accident. I was the only one hurt, and again I was given lortabs. I took them for a few months for my serious injuries, and then when my prescription ran out I knew I'd be alright just taking ibuprofen. Now, 7 months later, I am dealing with GI issues. I went to the ER a few nights ago, and they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me so they sent me on my way with lortabs. I don't know if I am super sensitive to pain medication, or what it is. I get thrown over the edge high just by a half of a 7.5 lortab. I have been on lortabs for a month and a half now (usually just 3.75 mg of a pill) for my GI issues (that I don't want to discuss in specifics really). Well, as my shitty luck would have it, I am going through kidney stones. My doctor prescribed me 20 4mg dilaudid, and they don't work orally at all. They don't even touch the pain, and that is the part I care about. They don't make me loopy like a 3.75mg lortab (a 7.5 cut in half lortab) would. That is especially how I know they aren't working. I asked my friend tonight who was puzzled that they weren't working orally even though (as I was informed tonight) they have a low BA orally. I was told to try "plugging". I will not sniff, IV, or do anything aside from orally. I went to pass a stone and the pain was so severe that I said fuck it. I broke the small dilaudid into fourths, and then I broke one of the fourths in half. I crushed it, put it into a syringe, and shoved it up... there. Well, it is too much right now. I don't mind feeling euphoric, but this level is past that. I called my doctor shortly after, and he thinks I am crazy. I didn't tell him about the plugging, but I did tell him that orally they aren't working. I asked to be switched to something lower that I know will work (like my lortabs), and he said that it isn't even possibly that the dilaudid aren't working for me. Now I don't know what to do.

I don't want/need something this strong.
He will not prescribe me anything lower.

What should I do? Finding another doctor isn't much of an option for me because every other doctor aside from him pretty much refuses to prescribe me pain medication unless it is tramadol, and kidney stones are too painful for that weak shit. I think most doctors read my records and assume that I am a young adult who only wants pain medicine to get high. They don't even know what I have been through, and even when I explain they think I am still an addict. Fucking doctors assuming everyone young or old will get addicted if given pain medicine. I have a huge fear of addiction, and that is why I want something weaker. If I just keep breaking off tiny pieces and plugging them then once I stop I am afraid of withdrawals. Also, why do the dilaudid not work orally for me when I have no tolerance and I have a high sensitivity to medications?

Thank you for reading, and I am sorry if these aren't typical questions asked on here. I don't know much about this site, but I probably sound like a lucky ass who is complaining for the great medicine I am being given. I just want advice and guide to what I should do or where to go from here.

Much love to all,
suchanewbie

 

[Nicholai]

Try diluting them in a volume of water that you can measure and titrate up slowly instead of plugging the whole lot at once. They ARE shitty orally, that's why I've slammed countless thousands of the damn things.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

BL isn't here to help you get meds from a doctor.

~~~> OD

 

[bunge]

Hydromorphone really is shit orally but if plugging works better then plug away!.

Could your doctor swith you to oxycodone? Its around the same strength but lasts longer and has a high oral BA.
If your getting side effects like nausea or dizziness then an anti-histamine like diphenhydramine or hydroxyzine (which your doc should prescribe you if you ask) will help.

If the effects of the hydromorphone get too intense then lay down for a while and the effects should subside a bit.

 

[The Doc.]

Hi, everyone.

I joined Bluelight because a friend of mine told me that this would be the best place to ask questions about my prescriptions. I have no idea if I am supposed to do the "swim" thing, but I am prescribed my medications. Any suggestions for further posting would be greatly appreciated, and do/don'ts would be, too. So, I suppose now that I will talk about my predicaments and medical issues that I've had for the past few years. I got shingles two years ago after having a horrible UTI that lasted for a few weeks. My shingles case took a few months to get rid of, and that was just the rash. I was diagnosed with post herpetic neuralgia after the rash went away. I'd say around 4 months of the onset shingles rash. I was switched from doctor to doctor which in turn led to my medications changing. Doctors did not want me on narcotics or really any pain medicine because most of them are assholes, and they viewed me as a young adult who probably would use them to get high. I was prescribed lortabs for a while, and then I was switched to tramadol for about a year. If the pain came to a point of vomiting or crying then I would take some of my old lortabs. Usually half a pill. After my nerve pain practically went away, I was in a bad car accident. I was the only one hurt, and again I was given lortabs. I took them for a few months for my serious injuries, and then when my prescription ran out I knew I'd be alright just taking ibuprofen. Now, 7 months later, I am dealing with GI issues. I went to the ER a few nights ago, and they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me so they sent me on my way with lortabs. I don't know if I am super sensitive to pain medication, or what it is. I get thrown over the edge high just by a half of a 7.5 lortab. I have been on lortabs for a month and a half now (usually just 3.75 mg of a pill) for my GI issues (that I don't want to discuss in specifics really). Well, as my shitty luck would have it, I am going through kidney stones. My doctor prescribed me 20 4mg dilaudid, and they don't work orally at all. They don't even touch the pain, and that is the part I care about. They don't make me loopy like a 3.75mg lortab (a 7.5 cut in half lortab) would. That is especially how I know they aren't working. I asked my friend tonight who was puzzled that they weren't working orally even though (as I was informed tonight) they have a low BA orally. I was told to try "plugging". I will not sniff, IV, or do anything aside from orally. I went to pass a stone and the pain was so severe that I said fuck it. I broke the small dilaudid into fourths, and then I broke one of the fourths in half. I crushed it, put it into a syringe, and shoved it up... there. Well, it is too much right now. I don't mind feeling euphoric, but this level is past that. I called my doctor shortly after, and he thinks I am crazy. I didn't tell him about the plugging, but I did tell him that orally they aren't working. I asked to be switched to something lower that I know will work (like my lortabs), and he said that it isn't even possibly that the dilaudid aren't working for me. Now I don't know what to do.

I don't want/need something this strong.
He will not prescribe me anything lower.

What should I do? Finding another doctor isn't much of an option for me because every other doctor aside from him pretty much refuses to prescribe me pain medication unless it is tramadol, and kidney stones are too painful for that weak shit. I think most doctors read my records and assume that I am a young adult who only wants pain medicine to get high. They don't even know what I have been through, and even when I explain they think I am still an addict. Fucking doctors assuming everyone young or old will get addicted if given pain medicine. I have a huge fear of addiction, and that is why I want something weaker. If I just keep breaking off tiny pieces and plugging them then once I stop I am afraid of withdrawals. Also, why do the dilaudid not work orally for me when I have no tolerance and I have a high sensitivity to medications?

Thank you for reading, and I am sorry if these aren't typical questions asked on here. I don't know much about this site, but I probably sound like a lucky ass who is complaining for the great medicine I am being given. I just want advice and guide to what I should do or where to go from here.

Much love to all,
suchanewbie

People take diladids by mouth?! Really I never heard of that lol yea my buddy used to get those prescribed and would trade me them for heroin once in a while or I would help him pay for his script and he would throw a few my way. Your right orally those things don't work one bit all I can say is keep plugging or snort half a 4 see how that works snorting them isn't like shooting or anything it still takes 20 mins to kick in and there is no rush but if you don't want to then keep plugging I doubt your doctor will give you anything else such as oxycodone since your young even tho diladids are just as addictive if not more oxys just have a bad reputation.

 

[The Doc.]

QUOTE=Bob Loblaw;12246158]BL isn't here to help you get meds from a doctor.

~~~> OD[/QUOTE]

I don't think he is trying to learn things to say to his doc to get more pills he just wants to know how he could go about getting Better pain relief

 

[downerhead]

@Suchanewbie:That's really weird that your doc won't prescribe weaker meds.Most peoples have the opposite problem.He won't even give you the 5/500 Vicodin?That's usually the first thing opioid they want to give and it's like pulling teeth to get them to go any higher.I have chronic pain and wish my doc would give me Dilaudid 4mg.But you sound like a responsible young person and it's sad that you have to suffer because the only doctor who will give you anything is fighting you tooth and nail.The only advice I can give is to look/ask around for a better doc and explain your situation.Hope you find a more compassionate doc.Good luck.

 

[downerhead]

Forgot to mention earlier,but how about obtaining copies of all your medical records,including x rays and showing them to your own order perhaps a more compassionate doctor?Or have you tried this already?