samiam
Bluelighter
My wife and I are going to try a small amount of these two. Insufflated. We don't like needles. Is there any counterindications with taking the two together in small amounts?
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A little Coke and Heroin
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An intranasal speedball involves relatively low risk should you dose in smaller amounts. If you want a better idea of what this combination is capable of, read some of the experience reports on erowid about taking a smackblow to the dome. Pay close attention to the iv (or smoked with heroin, which is a little less efficient)doses and adjust for insufflation.
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The issue of whether taking both together is actually more dangerous seems to be a matter of some debate on this board. Certainly many people seem OD on speedballs (coke+heroin) but this may very well be simply due to a psychological masking effect (you think you can handle more because heroin and coke can reduce the side effects of the other).
Personally I have gone into respiratory failure after IVing a sizeable amount of this combo (thanks for the quick naloxone zorn!). It wouldn't surprise me if the coke comedown exagerate the respiratory depression effects of heroin.
However snorting in reasonable doses shouldn't be a problem. Especially as you don't have the short rush than crash from IV coke.
Personally I have gone into respiratory failure after IVing a sizeable amount of this combo (thanks for the quick naloxone zorn!). It wouldn't surprise me if the coke comedown exagerate the respiratory depression effects of heroin.
However snorting in reasonable doses shouldn't be a problem. Especially as you don't have the short rush than crash from IV coke.
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
Both the above are right - if you nasally take a *safe* amount of each you wont die, hell, with ahealthy heart you could probably IV it and get away - I admit to having done it - recently, and it seems I have people comming at me left and righttelling me how they also did it with good success...
STILL, I DO NOT ADVOCATE SPEEDBALLING BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A HIGH RISK!... then again, if you stick to SNORTING these you should be cool ... just start small - you can always do more...
Here is something else to consider, and THIS IS IMPORTANT - The cocaine is goingto wear off a LOT FASTER THEN THE HEROIN, so, at first you might rail a gagger of heroin, do some coke, and figure "hey, I can do more smack, I'm speeding so hard I coukld use the downer" ... wel, 20 minutes later the coke high is just about gone and you now have to contend with all the heroin you did!
It can be fun - but please be carefull!
STILL, I DO NOT ADVOCATE SPEEDBALLING BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A HIGH RISK!... then again, if you stick to SNORTING these you should be cool ... just start small - you can always do more...
Here is something else to consider, and THIS IS IMPORTANT - The cocaine is goingto wear off a LOT FASTER THEN THE HEROIN, so, at first you might rail a gagger of heroin, do some coke, and figure "hey, I can do more smack, I'm speeding so hard I coukld use the downer" ... wel, 20 minutes later the coke high is just about gone and you now have to contend with all the heroin you did!
It can be fun - but please be carefull!