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A friend's abuse

Youngling

Youngling

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So I am reluctant so say I introduced a friend into the miracle substance known as MDMA. Before I gave it to him, I explained how it is one of, if not THE, worst drug(s) to abuse & that he should only do it once a month at the absolute MAX. He told me he would abide by that & he took it. Obviously he had a great time (he said it was one of the best nights of his life). Now a few weekends later I find out he has been doing it every weekend since then. I tried to tell him about all the inevitable problems he will face after abuse & he refuses to believe them, saying he only feels a little drained for a day after using it. How do you stop someone from abusing this drug even after informing them of their future problems? I want to help him before its too late & he actually experiences something serious. I feel somewhat responsible as I was the first one to turn him on to it.
 
Link him to some horror stories. Take him out for a beer and tell him that you are concerned and that you won't stand by as he wrecks his life. I would go as far as saying its me or dugs. But thats taking it real far.
 
Introduce him to bluelight and have him talk to us lolls
 
Tell him to read about MDMA instead of blindly beleiving its the key to life and no harm can come from it..
MDMA releases enourmous amounts of serotonin and releases other chemicals as well wich will be lacking after a trip.. this is what fucks you up.
Nobody can really fight it after a certain point of abuse because its BRAIN CHEMISTRY, its what you are. Essentially you are a drug and if you mix too much shit into it you'll fuck up your drug - wich is you.
 
He will find out for himself when he is cruising down the road crying his eyes out to some random pop radio song...

You do you, he do he.
 
You already warned him. He is aware. Sometimes people have to make their own mistakes before learning.
 
introducing other people to new drugs can often come with a heavy burden. i trust you yourself Youngling have learnt greatly from this. in the end it is up to your friend to make his own decisions, i assume hes an adult.

'you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink'. phrase came to mind.

hope it all works out op.

Introduce him to bluelight and have him talk to us lolls
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makes us sound like a leper colony or something..
 
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when the comedowns outweigh the goodnights, it will be a painful realisation and then the recovery phase will start.

when i used to pop a small dose every 2 months that didnt seem to give comedowns or lasting feelings really, its when you redose and redose it seems to give problems , or even worse redosing and taking it often, thats just putting your head in the frying pan like lol
 
Some people are meant to learn from the bad experiences, so allow him to crash into the big i(comedown) wall, only after he find himself wrecked he will believe you that is for sure
 
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Ok I should re-phrase.. - Introduce him to bluelight and have him read the stories of bad comedowns.. Better? ;):)
 
I honestly think that we all have to learn the hard way.

I've always been fairly educated about drugs, I knew the effects of what I was taking, I always knew the dose. Needless to say, I knew what I was getting into.

MDMA is just something else, though. The feeling is so great, that the possible damage done seems worth it. I went through a period where I did MDMA several times a month, for 3-5 months. Sometimes I'd do it 2 days in a row. Yea, the next morning sucked, but I felt fine the next day after that. I figured I'd be fine..

Anyways, I did move to another city, and got away from the party scene, and from ecstasy. About a month in, it all set in. The night terrors. The horrible depression. The depersonalization/dissociation. Emotional detachment. Suicidal thoughts. Homicidal thoughts. My anxiety was so bad, that I would have full blown panic attacks if I had to stand in a line for more than a minute. I loved reading books, and I couldn't even keep my mind focused enough to read anymore. My ADD was terrible as a byproduct of my mdma use. I couldn't even watch t.v. and stay focused on a show. I had to have my t.v. on, my laptop on, my iphone out, a novel open, and my homework sprawled on the table, alternating between all of those because I simply could not keep a train of thought for very long. It would take my the longest time to finish an assignment, and the way I did it was by switching between my homework, t.v., reading, texting/games, and misc. My brain just could not focus on one thing for more then 5-10 minutes at a time, so I learned that I had to switch off.

It all got better though.. After about 3 months, I noticed that I felt normal again. It happened slowly, so it wasn't like I was better in the blink of an eye, after several months. My memory will still be impaired, but it's not that much of an inconvenience, so one day, I looked back over the past few weeks and noticed a postive change in my mental state. I made a full recovery.

I believe the brain can always heal itself with time. It's just that the time spent dealing with the negative long lasting effects of heavy mdma abuse are hard to deal with. This January I had a friend hang himself in his garage because of the same thing I went through.

Sit him down, talk to him, and make him know that you care, and that you're dead serious, and that this shit is real. If he doesn't listen, he'll learn the hard way like I did. Just hope that he is strong enough to pull through it.
 
I think a lot of us went through this after trying MDMA for the first time. At least I know a lot of the friends I had went through the same process where the first time was mind blowing then they would chase it every weekend. It all seemed to subside within a month or two. First of all the comedowns were awful! Secondly and probably the worst bit is that this period often destroys the magic of the experience which I am sure everyone here can agree - their first experiences with MDMA of loosing inhibitions and LOVING everyone and everything were by far the best nights on MDMA they've had.

If his usage continues then obviously it has to be addressed. As we all know MDMA while fun if used responsibly can seriously fuck you up if you abuse it. I never got into a full blown addiction but I know when I was using it too much it seriously impacted my life. I think just the effects on memory are bad enough not to mention the constant depression. Perhaps some education into how it affects your brain and how a lot of the chemicals it splurges out in one night (mostly seratonin) are essential to leading a healthy life both physically and more importantly psychologically might help.

I was a dependent alcoholic for 4 years (I was lucky to pull myself out of that hole young by 24 - otherwise I'd have had no life). I know it's not really your job but watch for obvious signs of more than just a honeymoon period. Spending all his money/getting in debt. Obvious signs of overuse. The bad far outweighing the good effects (the insanity of an addiction.) LYING is probably the most obvious signs of serious addiction. Denial/Self-denial. Hiding it from others and using on his own. If you notice any tell tale signs it's a lot easier to stop in it's tracks than to let it take over his life.

A bit of an essay. I just thought I'd let you know what to look out for because I wouldn't wish a serious addiction on my worst enemy.
 
He's playing with fire and he's about to get burned. He needs to learn for himself the highs and lows of MDMA.
 
I cringe whenever I see or hear of people going down that path, the same path I myself and others around me and here on bluelight have gone down.

Sometimes you just cant stop them no matter what you try to tell them, MDMA shows its beauty but it will show its dark side if abused... treat it with respect
 
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He will find out for himself when he is cruising down the road crying his eyes out to some random pop radio song...

You do you, he do he.
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Yeah don't watch Charlottes web after a handful of beans at 5.00am. I cried when Charlotte died & the only way to console myself was to pop some more & hit the coke. Yeah that was a shitty Monday thats for sure.
 
Yep, definitely introduce him to the Ecstasy forum of BL. There's about 15 years of thousands upon thousands of everyone's experiences with MDMA. There is so much information available, so much good advice, there is no need at all for him to fry himself out and end up regretting his use for years on end. He could be enjoying those years, having the occasional great roll, rather than waiting for his brain to recover from misuse of a wonderful and very powerful drug!
 
Yeah deffinetely get him on here to BL. Like said before, MDMA is one of those drugs where moderation is everything. I probably won't ever roll again, to shit scared of it now.
 
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