A Few Questions, Starting a new cycle

[RaoulDuke45]

Hey all, so I just got my grubby lil paws on some gear and im about to start the cycle next week, but before I do so I had some questions.

Im gonna be taking a Deca and Sustanon stack for about 4 weeks:

Deca 1mL/100mg once weekly
Sustanon 250 1mL/250mg twice a week

Due to my location I have the luxury of just being able to go into a certain local pharmacy and getting hooked up with what I need. The guy there recommended Proviron (Mesterolone) for PCT but im not so sure that would work, seeing as how its a weak androgen and not a AI. Could I use it for PCT or should I go with something like Letrozole or Tamoxifen? Ive taken some prohormones before (Forged Extreme Black) and noticed after coming off I would get really depressed and slightly emotional, what PCT agent would be best suited to prevent these side-effects?
Those are my first questions. The second would be how long before I start training should I inject? 30min? 1 hour? I realize my stack is not as hardcore as some that Ive read on here, but any input from more seasoned AAS gurus would be appreciated.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa.]

height/weight/age/bf%?

you need to read the forum rules. You may be 16 for all we know??? Or you could be 55 5'4 and 300 pounds of fat??? Who knows if you're not honest with us.

Your cycle is terrible. Deca and sust both contain long-estered gear that takes awhile to build up. You'd be much better running them both for at least 10 weeks. Deca takes a few weeks to really start hitting you. When it does its strength increases, aggression, weight gain (water and muscle), increased appetite. I really saw deca working at 400mg around about 6 weeks in.

mesterolone is not good for PCT since it is suppressive to your natural testosterone (the idea during PCT is to restart your body's natural production). Its great DURING the cycle because it frees up more test to do its work at the muscle.

Letrozole is not a good option for PCT because it is completely suppressive of estrogen. You want some estrogen otherwise you'll run into problems (sex drive, muscle gain loss, etc). It also has a nasty rebound so you'd be better off running it only if you need to annihilate estrogen in your body (ie you got gyno).

Tamoxifen is good for PCT alongside clomiphene.

here's a sample of something I'd do. I'd have to know more to suggest it to you.

test E 400mg/week 1-12 week
deca 400mg/week 1-10 week
aromasin 12.5mg/day 1-20 week
proviron 25mg 1-14 week
clomiphene (clomid) 25mg/day 15-19 week
nolvadex (tamoxifen) 20mg/day 15-19 week

good luck and post up some stats so we can help you more.

also post your typical day diet.

 

[RaoulDuke45]

height/weight/age/bf%?

you need to read the forum rules. You may be 16 for all we know??? Or you could be 55 5'4 and 300 pounds of fat??? Who knows if you're not honest with us.

Your cycle is terrible. Deca and sust both contain long-estered gear that takes awhile to build up. You'd be much better running them both for at least 10 weeks. Deca takes a few weeks to really start hitting you. When it does its strength increases, aggression, weight gain (water and muscle), increased appetite. I really saw deca working at 400mg around about 6 weeks in.

mesterolone is not good for PCT since it is suppressive to your natural testosterone (the idea during PCT is to restart your body's natural production). Its great DURING the cycle because it frees up more test to do its work at the muscle.

Letrozole is not a good option for PCT because it is completely suppressive of estrogen. You want some estrogen otherwise you'll run into problems (sex drive, muscle gain loss, etc). It also has a nasty rebound so you'd be better off running it only if you need to annihilate estrogen in your body (ie you got gyno).

Tamoxifen is good for PCT alongside clomiphene.

here's a sample of something I'd do. I'd have to know more to suggest it to you.

test E 400mg/week 1-12 week
deca 400mg/week 1-10 week
aromasin 12.5mg/day 1-20 week
proviron 25mg 1-14 week
clomiphene (clomid) 25mg/day 15-19 week
nolvadex (tamoxifen) 20mg/day 15-19 week

good luck and post up some stats so we can help you more.

also post your typical day diet.

Ok sorry I neglected to read the rules, Im 23 years old, weigh about 87kg, and am 6'2" tall, body fat percent is about 18% last time I checked it. I eat about 3-4 full meals a day not really a speacialized diet but each meal usually has a complex carb, fiber, starch, and protein component to every meal (with heavy emphasis on the protein part). Also 2-3 USN 100% whey protein shakes, containing about 44gms protein each, as well as 5gms creatine monohydrate day, and USN anabolic nitro 1.5 scoops before training, a multi-vitamin, fish oil, and joint health supplements.

Typical working weights on major muscles (not entire work out):

Bench Press 100kg 3setsX6reps
Squat 98kg 3sX6r
Leg Press 240kg 2sX6-7r
Deadlift 112kg 3sx6-8r
Bent-Over Rows 94kg 3sx6-8r
Lateral Pull-Downs 90kg 2sX6-8r
Dumbell Shoulder Press 22kg (each arm) 2sX6r
Dumbell Curls 25kg (each arm) 3sX6-7r

Thanks for the advice man, I ll have to go back and grab the Clomifene and Tamoxifen then for a proper post-cycle. So the proviron should help if I take it during the cycle?

 

[Matsuo Munefusa.]

proviron helps during cycle it makes me chase my gf around my house naked with a hard-on. She loves it she giggles and runs away in pleasure until I catch her

You're not ready for anabolic androgenic steroids. You're too fat.

 

[p-mo]

That low level of deca is useless and the length of time for the cycle is ridiculous. You need to lear a bit more about how to use the gear before you start.

 

[ronnin]

You're not ready for anabolic androgenic steroids. You're too fat.

I like to be no more than 15%, but 18% is not too fat. He will have to be extremely vigilant with his diet and include and AI to prevent estrogen levels from getting out of hand. But it can be done successfully at his BF %.