A central Pennsylvania health system says it won't hire smokers

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A central Pennsylvania health system says it won't hire smokers
Marie McCullough
Philadelphia Inquirer
1.11.12



The vaunted Geisinger Health System in central Pennsylvania ushered in the new year by becoming the latest employer to resolve not to hire smokers.

The shift toward policies that ban smokers, not just smoking, has been growing in Pennsylvania and the 20 other states that allow it. Beginning in the 1980s with big companies such as Turner Broadcasting and Alaska Airlines, no-nicotine hiring practices have been embraced by police and fire departments, medical centers, even an Ohio casino.

Like these other organizations, Geisinger says its policy, effective next month, will reduce health-care costs and decrease absenteeism among its 15,000 employees, while encouraging healthier living.

But throwing the smoker out with the smoke is a controversial trend, one that makes even some longtime tobacco-control advocates uncomfortable.

Critics say that even if individual employers save money - data are scarce - there is no evidence that the hiring policies have reduced smoking rates or benefited the overall public health.

And if discriminating against smokers is OK, what about people with other legal but dangerous habits such as heavy drinking, overeating, promiscuity, or motorcycle riding?

"Employment decisions should be made based on qualifications for the job," said Michael Siegel, a physician and tobacco-control researcher at the Boston University School of Public Health. "Once we open the door to looking at a person's personal life, we open up the floodgates."

Federal and most state laws prohibit discrimination on five grounds - race, sex, age, handicap, and religion. Religious freedom is constitutionally protected, while race, sex, age, and disability are innate conditions, outside an employee's control.

A smoker, in contrast, "has only to give up smoking off the job in order to be eligible for employment," the antismoking group Action on Smoking and Health says.

That view "ignores the deeply addictive nature of smoking," said Jennifer Ibrahim, a Temple University tobacco-control policy expert. "We know that quitting doesn't happen overnight."

Marcy Marshall, a spokeswoman for Geisinger, which has banned smoking on its far-flung properties since 2007, said the new hiring policy "is a legal practice, so we don't consider it discrimination. Smokers are not a legally protected class in Pennsylvania."

But smokers are protected by employment laws in Washington, D.C., and 29 states, including New Jersey and New York. These laws - for which the tobacco industry lobbied - are varied. Some prohibit discrimination against smokers, while others protect any lawful behavior off the job.

On top of inconsistent laws, the hiring policies usually involve a double standard: one for applicants, another for current workers. Geisinger, for example, will reject job-seekers - including medical students and volunteers - based on nicotine tests, but current workers who smoke will be "encouraged to take advantage of" the health system's quit-smoking programs.

No-smoker rules also pose enforcement dilemmas.

After hiring someone, Geisinger will rely on the honor system, not periodic nicotine testing, Marshall said. Meanwhile, Roxborough Memorial Hospital in Philadelphia is "very seriously considering" a no-smokers-wanted policy that would include periodic, random testing after hiring, said chief personnel officer Michael Henrici.

Roxborough, which plans to become a smoke-free campus by September, already randomly tests 10 percent of its 720 employees for drugs each year, Henrici said. Employees also sign an annual smoking affidavit; a health-insurance surcharge is imposed on those who have not kicked the habit.

Some organizations have gone further, imposing a health-insurance surcharge on nonsmoking workers whose covered spouses smoke.

It is difficult to say how many smokers are getting turned away, but the percentage is small if Abington Memorial Hospital's experience is any guide. Since its policy was implemented July 1, six of 342 prospective hires have been rejected because they tested positive for nicotine, the hospital said.

R. Joseph Barton, a Washington lawyer specializing in employee benefits, said: "I don't think employers should have a right to ask what you're doing in private. You're an employee, not a serf. And from a cost-containment perspective, there are far riskier behaviors to engage in than smoking."

Nonetheless, he said, courts have sided with employers in the few cases that have challenged discrimination against smokers.


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I'd be fine with no smoking on the premises and charging more for insurance, but to completely ban it is taking it too far, imo.

Just wait until more people actually quit and smoking related healthcare drops... I guess they'll complain about revenue loss then. :D
 
Exclusion is non beneficial to any workplace. A smoker may be more capable of the tasks required to do a certain job than a non smoker who wants the same job, but the smoker will be declined because he smokes. That's ridiculous, smoking is getting to be seen more and more as an unhealthy habit but separating them from the workforce will cause many experienced people to miss out on a job opportunity.
 
So dumb... And I live in PA... South central. All I can say is don't say you smoke! Get in your car on break and puff away. Then again they will drug test you for nicotine how insane.
 
I think the biggest issue here is that cigarettes are completely legal. While all drugs should be, they should at hire those who are cigarette smokers just as much as they'd hire people who aren't. Cigarette smokers aren't breaking the law and while cigarettes are harmful, I don't think smoking them should bar someone from getting a job.
 
"Once we open the door to looking at a person's personal life, we open up the floodgates."

Yeah, not hiring otherwise qualified people because of what they smoke at home would be a dangerous preceden....oh.
 
My hubby uses this device to smoke which has no tobacco, but does have nicotine. It helped him to quit smoking and he still gets to feel like he's smoking. everyone is a happy camper. If anyone wants to try it for a few days, it's called "try2vape conqueror kit" and it really works!

It doesn't bother me that they are banning smoking, but now if they ban ecigs I will be ticked because its a much healthier alternative.
 
This is fucking bullshit! Piss test are bullshit. Banning moderate drinking is bullshit. This new anti-tobacco crusade is bullshit.

I can understand drugs and drinking if done on a dangerous job or where other's lives are at stack(doctors and pilots), but at places like McDonalds, what the fuck. If they smoke away from others, use e-cigs, nicotine replacements or use snuff what business is it of theirs? What if tobacco's part of their religion?

More and more corporations seem to be encroaching on worker's freedom. I fear one day our jobs will have complete control over your lives like those old company towns. Rivaling a totalitarian government. It's like they want a bunch of straight-edge drones. Shit if so many jobs didn't suck maybe less employees would feel like smoking and getting drunk or high.

I've noticed a lot of jobs are being very anti-tobacco. In the medical field they act like it's little better than stealing morphine. In the military, where smoking was almost mandatory, they frown on smoking, but not really on snuff. Many jobs now bitch about smelling like smoke and will fire you or not even hire you.

Conversely some jobs make smoking almost seem mandatory, like fast-food or construction. Snuff is popular on some jobs where smoking is a fire hazard. But even they are getting increasingly more anti-tobacco.

How long before tobacco and nicotine become banned like marijuana. You might say,"Good, smoking is addictive and horrible for your health." A smoker can't just quit. Some smoker's would risk getting tobacco or nicotine even with draconian punishments, death doesn't deter them. It'd be like prohibition all over again. I could see dealers slanging "bac" and "nic". The nicotine levels would go up like the proof of alcohol went up during prohibition. I could see rustica and Y1 tobacco becoming popular, they have like 6-10% nicotine. Shit you might even see some shooting pure nicotine. I think one scientist did this and said it was quite nice. You might even see cutting tobacco with other shit and even ODs.

I smoke and want to but so far can't quit. It's bad for you. Even think that if they banned everything but e-cigs or safer products it wouldn't be too bad. But this moral judgement banning shit might go too far.
 
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