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A bad trip that wasn't bad?

CheesyQuaver

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This is my first post so big ups to all you bluelighters!
But bare with me if it's not all prim and proper and whatnot, I'll try not to break the rules.

This is a question about my first experience with psychedelics (LSD),
I'll start from the beginning, it all started when we couldn't get into the rave we planned to go to, I had travelled into the city to go to a drum and bass squat party with 3 of my friends and a couple of girls we knew, after hearing the police had locked the party down we decided to go home as none of us had ID to go to a legal event, as we got to the train station we saw another group of ravers that explained they too had intended to go to the same squat but were now going to a different party, relived we hadn't wasted our night we asked to tag along,

after a few stops on the train and a 10 minute walk we where outside the party, immediately I noticed that the crowd was a lot different to the usual people at the party's I went to, a lot of people with dreads and colourful clothing and a lot of older people, I was informed that it was a psytrance party but as I like most music and just wanted to party by this time I decided to give it a shot,

apon entry I saw that it was a much better produced squat then most of the ones I'd been to before with a lot of uv decorations and stretchers also a very good chill out room and tea bar, I didn't immediately fall in love with the music but it wasn't offensive and I was in a good mood so I decided to take some of the powder MDMA and pills I had, I took about .4 of a gram of powder orally with some water along with 2 pills (I am quite a party head and this is a strong dose but not unusual for myself at a party) I felt good I was dancing and getting on fairly well, when I came up of the pills, I decided to get some ketamine of a friend of mine as I've always found MDMA and k a good party combination as long as u don't overdo it with the k, when I found him he gave me the k and told me he had bought some acid tabs for me him and another friend to try for the first time.

now I knew acid isn't something to be taken lightly, and I'd been offered it tons of times before but always felt I wasn't ready, however as the setting felt correct and It would of been the first time too for 2 of my closest friends, I took one tab and did a bump of k and went on with my night, after about an hour I didn't feel any more effected than I would usually from md and k, no visuals (what I thought was to be the main part of the trip) nothing, i thought because I'd extensively used drugs before I may of had some cross tolerence or threshold or something along those lines so I found my friend and asked him to get me some more, I bought 2 more tabs and done those aswell.

after maybe another half an hour or so (time became hazy as u can imagine) I started feeling really good, the music I was listening to sounded a lot deeper like I was hearing new noises behind the bassline, all the decorations were really visually capturing and although I wasn't seeing things my vision was defiantly effected by this point, I had been doing nos balloons all night as I usually do when I go to party's, but once I came up on the acid they seemed to really get to me I even fell over once or twice and couldn't get up for a minute or so, (I know this isnt unusual for nos but it is for me) and the balloon trips are a lot longer lasting and very stong (almost out of body), I had a great time falling all over the place and moving about really slowly to the music, towards the end of our night about 7-8 I smoked a few joints in the chill out bit and was getting all kinds of changes in shapes and colours all around me and found it hilarious, the girls decided it was time to go so we all left and made our way home.

i was still tripping when I left but I felt no comedown like I usually would after leaving a rave I felt really good, I got home with my 2 tripping friends and we had a good smoke and a giggle, all day listening to all old songs we thought would go with acid, it was really funny and my mum who's an old school raver got involved and we had a really nice day, we laughed all day till my friends started to feel ill and went home about 10 that night, I felt great and was still getting strong visuals and they didn't seem to be getting weaker atall, buy about 1 I tried to sleep it off, I tossed and turned for hours and started getting really twisted.

i had heard that taking too stong a dose of acid can put you in that state for ever if you can't bring your head back together so I really tried to focus on getting my thoughts straight, but the more I thought about one thing the more confused I got, and that frustrated me so I was just going all over the place and working myself up over it so I didn't sleep, I got up about 9 and everything still seemed to have that slight breathing effect I could still see tracers ect so I decided not to go to work.

since that time I always though I felt different and it really worried me for the first few weeks, I used to worry about loads of stupid suff but now I'm not bothered, but I'm worried that I'm not worried? I'm not sure if I've convinced myself I'm different now or my 3rd eye really has opened or what ever you want to call it.

since then I've done 2 sessions on mushrooms and explored smokable dmt a good 10-15 times but I found these to be a lot softer mentally, although Dmt is a lot more visual it didn't give me that after feeling of disconnection from main stream society or worry I had before, mushrooms where much the same just less visual and more funny

So my question is if I do acid again isit likely to make these feeling worse? Because I'd like to do it on it's own on a summers day with a few joits in the park and prove to myself it's all in my head and it's just a Trippy drug? Do you think It was the settings and me overthinking or is my head just not ready for LSD?

I'd really like to enjoy it again so any help will be good I'm not asking shall I take acid or not I'm asking is this normal to feel different, and does it get worse the more you take? Btw my friends who done 1 tab each are both completely fine, cheers guys any discussions/help appreciated
 
too many drugs mixed together with tolerance and enthusiasm.
well what's wrong with enthusiasm?
not much wrong with being interested enthusiastically.
but I think your very high dosage gave you a very long trip into difficult areas, and you took a high dosage because you started with lots of E-powder.

I am not sure how old you are or what to suggest, but lsd is a connoisseur substance, and by mixing with k and e for your first time you are basically making a chinese stir fry from what should be served as a finely dressed carpaccio.

if you get mental indigestion afterwards - well - you should expect that from a stirfry
 
Yeah I mean I quite young but quite experienced with all kinds of drugs apart from psychedelics, I obviously understand that would be the main reason I was so fucked, but that's the part I enjoyed it's the actually effect of it being mentally taxing i dislike, will more use of acid further that or could it actually help me settle my thought?
 
It is common to feel different after psychedelics, I mean my first trip altered the course of my life but it was because I had a spiritual awakening (which it does not sound like you did). Even so, it does alter your thought processes so it's not unusual that you'd feel differently afterwards.

When you were trying to sleep you had the classic "will I ever come down?" anxiety... sounds like you handled it alright, and now you know that indeed, you do come down, even if it seems like you can't at the time.

I am unclear as to how you feel about this. It seems that you maybe kind of like the changes you've noticed in yourself, but are concerned that they are symptomatic of some kind of issue? One of the reasons that people take psychedelics is to give them some perspective on their life and reduce the worries they feel on a daily basis.

One thing is for sure, for your first time on LSD, you would have done best to have taken only LSD (and maybe some weed), not to combine it with MDMA and ketamine. It's no wonder you feel a bit unsettled. I'm not sure how doing it again will affect you, but if you do choose to do it again, please consider using it without combining it with other drugs. Then you can get a real sense for how LSD affects you.
 
I like how you say acid isnt meant to be taken lightly after downing a half gram of molly and 2 pills.

Acid mindfuck is short and temporary versus the extended vacations many ecstasy users suffer through...

I also took a small (1.5 squares of blotter) dose of blotter my first time and hardly felt shit, redosed the same amount a couple hours later and still didnt get much out of it. Overall I trust lucy much more than I trust molly and Ive fucked with these quite bitches a few times... Just gotta find your acid dose.
 
I have a friend of mine who is of a very spiritual school of thought and although I have experienced what some may consider spiritual experiences at the hight of my acid trip I could see all the veins inside my body in the mirror an aura around me but I looked like everything at the same time facially old young black white my face constantly changing, and really strong dmt trips .2 doses don't belive I've fully broke through but I learn things I don't understand I get bits of the in dreams that I remember (my first dmt hit convinced me to stop taking ketamine habitually) and although I'll still take it at a party it's not damaging to my normal life anymore so is that spiritual or my body just rejecting something is my acid thing just a hallucination or a spiritual encounter? Even questioning thts makes me think I might have a problem and it worrys me not to the point that it's depressing I just wanted to know how other people were effected and I find it hard to have these kind of conversations with my peers cos I keep getting odd looks lol
 
Yeah but MDMA is a regular thing although it may be damaging to my body I'm used to dealing with that kind of damage it's not taxing on your brain so much that you still think about it daily, months after one dose?
 
I would look into the effects that regular MDMA usage is having on you, especially at the dosages described. MDMA depletes you quite significantly and if you don't allow time to replenish between uses it will start to deplete you even more... there are long-lasting and far-ranging emotional impacts that you may not be aware of, especially if you have been doing it for a while. I realize you're asking about LSD but I think that your MDMA abuse is probably affecting you significantly, and you may not realize it.
 
Admittedly I do have abit of a love affair with MDMA I feel like it builds up loads of pressure in me then I dance it all of and then I get like 2 hours of enlightenment I don't feel rushing or rolling I just feel relaxed free from all the things I got hanging over me like a kind of therapy, but sometimes it don't happen so I give it a couple weekends off thats probably not enough to fully sort to out but it's hard I see drum and bass headliners and get exited lol
 
Yeah I get that, just fair warning as I don't know of anyone who has abused MDMA and not ended up quite emotionally frazzled, and often mentally frazzled as well. It can really do a number on you to deplete yourself so heavily of serotonin.
 
Hmm see I like MDMA because it feels like I'm facing my problems and concurring them with smiles opposed to taking ketamine to separtate myself from everything? And I can take MDMA once a week to get that feeling but I was snorting k everyday, i know it's probly bad to use drugs to help u deal with ur problems in the long run but Yh it's working I'm always amazingly happy all the time on the outside but it's just odd if I stop with my life style you recon I'll go all upset and bitch for a while like coming off k even though it's a weekend habit?
 
Well I don't know, I got the sense you were using it more than once a week, is it once per weekend or more often (like 2 nights in the weekend)?

And the issue isn't the trips themselves or how you deal with them or whether or not they are real insights you have during them. With MDMA the issue is a chemical one, MDMA is a strong serotonin releaser which means it depletes your brain of serotonin, which takes times to replenish. If you do it regularly I am afraud a week is not enough time to fully recover so if you don't quite recover each week then you slip further and further into depletion. Personally I used MDMA regularly for a few weeks years back (more than once a week though) and for a month afterwards I was having brain zaps and intense depression. It sounds like you are not experiencing that but it is possible that if you stop you will experience a significant crash. And either way it's for sure not good for you to use it so regularly. Not trying to scare you, just trying to communicate some harm reduction. <3
 
If I read the thread correctly you were awake throughout the night, all through the next day, and even into the morning after that? That may have something to do with how you felt, that's the thing that would give me bad comedowns when I did acid often is I'd get no sleep.
 
Naa I appreciate it and I'm glad to listen to someone older with more experience I mean sometimes It will be a weekender sometimes a one nighter you know how it is, and if there's a party mid week I'm likely to be there, but I don't do it habitually like other drugs? I'm aware of the mid week blues and stuff and have had a month off before and felt good so I can the benifits in being onit and not? At the moment I'm loving the rave scene and I'm only 18 so I got an excuse right ;) ? And your right fry usually I have no trouble sleeping the day after MDMA especially if taken with ketamine, but the acid made it very hard for me to sleep so will taking it again prolong sleeplessness and make me feel I'll? Or is that beacuse I've taken it with MDMA in a party environment?
 
If it's legit acid you should be able to sleep once you come down. Last trip I had I consumed I'd say around 7 pm, and by like 330-4 in the morning I was able to get some sleep.
 
If it's legit acid you should be able to sleep once you come down. Last trip I had I consumed I'd say around 7 pm, and by like 330-4 in the morning I was able to get some sleep.
Just because it's legit doesn't mean you'll be able to sleep. I've done legit stuff about 5 times, and even though I take it usually at night an hour or two before midnight, I usually don't sleep till about 7pm the next day. I feel like it's a necessary and fun part of the journey. I usually just pop on a record with debussy piano music and take a bath while I wait for tiredness to arrive. I learned after my first trip that trying to sleep even on the comedown is futile for me.

Now with mushies, I can sleep right after the peak is over lol.
 
cheesy quaver said:
I was in a good mood so I decided to take some of the powder MDMA and pills I had, I took about .4 of a gram of powder orally with some water along with 2 pills (I am quite a party head and this is a strong dose but not unusual for myself at a party)...I took one tab and did a bump of k and went on with my night...I bought 2 more tabs and done those aswell...had been doing nos balloons all night as I usually do when I go to party's...towards the end of our night about 7-8 I smoked a few joints in the chill out bit

If that was your introduction to acid, I think we can say that you have no idea how you react to it. Try it by itself someday, with a less hectic set/setting. You'll likely find it enjoyable, or if you're really lucky, it just might kick your ass and teach you something.

And using MDMA, dissociatives, and psychedelics with the frequency that you imply...I don't see how you can pin feeling "different" on any one substance, this stuff is gonna have a cumulative effect. Congrats on getting off the daily K though.

Hmm see I like MDMA because it feels like I'm facing my problems and concurring them with smiles opposed to taking ketamine to separtate myself from everything

You take MDMA multiple times per month at parties, it doesn't sound like you're facing any problems at all. If you were, the MDMA would make itself irrelevant pretty quickly, no? As for decreasing your usage (if you want to), I bet you could do it painlessly, I mean, you seem to have plenty of other party-drug options, I'm sure you can work out something.
 
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