9th Issue Heroin Discussion v. quit drooling on yo keyboard

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Ive been nodding alllll fuckin night (just woke up, aprox. 3:00am), got 8 left for tomorrow. Will be repeating. Good night team.

And chinky i dont think thats a good idea at all to claim ur in a gang when ur not.. thats a good way to get hurt BAD or worse.. like i said u know gangbanging is like a religion in chicago.
 
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So on tuesday I go down to pick up, as soon as i hit 7 mile I see cops, everywhere. I get to my spot, grab 5 tenths and leave. All the sudden I see this sketchy ford suv/jeep like car followin me, immediately knew it was a narc... Get flicked scarfed down the 5 bags I had.. Long story short they impound my car with the tow and ticket bullshit they do in the D... So im left on 7mile and <snip> without a car.. Walked to the nearest fastfood place go to the bathroom puke the 4 of the 5 tenths up, had my counselor pick me up. Was honest with my parents this time, wasnt fun... Going to the methadone clinic on tuesday with my dad... Guess thats good..
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what happened to the last bag? lol

but im tellin you bro 'done is not the way to go..your just trading one addiction for another..'done is a bitch to kick and the Wds are just as bad...

one thing i should mention about subs that most people dont talk about is how it works almost like an antidepressant..i say this bc when you take it uplifts you and gives you almost a satisfied feeling..most of the people who do dope i feel are depressed in someway..depressed cause they lost their job, maybe cause you caught your first felony with a heroin poss. charge, you fail out of school, someone in the fam dies...we are all fucked in someway or another, why else did we not stick with weed? cause we wanted something more?, something stronger? cause weed "just isnt cutting it anymore"..but really whats it supposed to cut in the first place?

spite forreal man i know you said you didnt like the subs but i really think you should try it again..they are also alot more convenient cause its just a pill, you dont have to get a ride to the 'done clinic everyday and i know you can get takehomes eventually but thats not for weeks..you can also still drive when you on subs and you really shouldnt on 'done....i know someone who crashed into the back of cop car and got a DWI cause he was on his way home from the clinic at like 9am(he is now dead from a OD)..and with subs you kinda always have someone withyour back when you get dope thrown in your face..cause if your on the subs you wont be able to get high ..so its like havin a little friend with you whos looking out for you
 
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what happens when he finds out your a dope fiend?
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Good question; I have no fucking idea...I totally like this guy though and I don't wanna screw it up but I'm pretty sure that would be a deal-breaker...that's why I haven't said anything about it to him. He called me right after we met and we talked on the phone for a long time every day until yesterday, when we went out. And he is like, the perfect guy. I'm kinda used to having a bit of a "double life" like my family and co-workers not knowing I do dope, but the duplicity of my life right now is kind of getting to me...I mean, I'm trying to start a relationship with this guy but at the same time I have a sexual relationship with my dealer...that's just awful I know. But I actually haven't had sex with dboy all week, and I was taking subs, b/c it just feels wrong to be doing all that when I am getting to know someone I really like, as in would like a relationship with him. I don't really know I guess I'm just gonna play it by ear and see where it goes...I am not opposed to straightening out my life and stopping doing self-destructive things and if this could be a catalyst for some change, it is probably a good thing...

Oh yeah, that advice I gave to that kid was definitely taken from the advice you gave me (it was good advice right?) :)
 
Ha I was wondering the same thing, probably in the gutter by nowlol. I know that it is replacing one for another, but thats the point of maintenance therapy, Im not going to be able to be one of those people who does dope everyday with his dose when he has the money. My parents gotta consent to this because im not 18 yet so theyl be seeing the results from all my drops and etc. I know its still possible to fuck up but I feel like that will help alot, just the fact that I sorta have no choice to use it as a means to recovery and not just a way to stay right and still be able to get high. I actaully did try using subs after the first time I got flicked in the D, at best it makes me feel 50% better when im like dead in withdrawals. Subs also make me feel crazy, hate it, I get extremely anxious, hyper, cant sleep.. I don't know on asking plenty of questions on tuesday now, definently not about to just cancel it, been a hellish week wait trying to cop shit with parents breathing down my kneck dont feel like doing it again..
 
The first couple times I tried subs I hated them, I thought they didn't work, but actually I was just taking them all wrong. Like, I was taking far too much, and I wasn't really letting them fully dissolve b/c I hated the taste so much. So I didn't really benefit from them the first few times, but once I started taking less and making sure they dissolved all the way (or injecting them) I was AMAZED at how much better they worked. I really wasted them before. Now when I take them I do notice like Chinky said, an antidepressent type effect, like my mood will be good, not all depressed or obsessing about dope and how I'm gonna score...I can just go about my day like a normal person.

But if you think the methadone is the best choice then by all means, anything that is gonna help you out so you're not having to worry about getting high all the time...plus you won't have to go in the hood to cop and risk getting fucked with again or having something bad happen.

My parents think I quit doing dope last year. They didn't even know I did it until my husband died, then all the shit came out in the open and they found out...then I quit using for awhile. And they would be so upset if they found out I started back up. The majority of the people in my life have absolutely no idea I'm getting high, and I'm not being deluded, they really just don't know and I'm really good at not letting my habit become obvious. It is really stressful though, and I feel pretty guilty about it.
 
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But if you think the methadone is the best choice then by all means, anything that is gonna help you out so you're not having to worry about getting high all the time...plus you won't have to go in the hood to cop and risk getting fucked with again or having something bad happen.
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Absolutely. Whatever works for you and keeps you from illicit drug use and everything that comes with it. I very much recommend that you don't start abusing your maintenance medication as well. If you IV your DOC I would strongly recommend against IVing the suboxone not only because it will only serve to keep you in the ritual of doing so but, also because shooting pills as a whole is not a good thing. I hope that any of you that shoot suboxone only do so with the proper micron filters required to remove the pill's binders.

BV as far as your current romantic situation goes I see it as a good thing. You're showing definite signs of wanting to move on away from your second life of drug abuse. I think it's good that you're making an effort to not see your dealer for romantic and drug reasons. Even if things don't work out with this one particular guy it seems like you're ready to move on from the grind of being dependent and on to a better life.

Maybe seeking some counseling could help you through this? I think it'd be important to be fully equipped for a real relationship so that you know you can do it without falling back on heroin as a crutch. Of course I could be way off as I only know you from a few posts on here but, I know me and I know junkies and we are very good at finding a reason to use. I would be well served to take my own advice but, I just think that if it's possible, having good support in place would be the way to go if things get tough.
 
I just wanted to say that I think injecting anything at all is a bad idea; I only put in about injecting the subs b/c it's what I did, but in no way do I recommend it to anyone...IV has been nothing but an extra addiction for me, wish I'd never started it.

Yep my date went great! I honestly have very little experience "dating" like a normal person, I had my wild college days then I met my husband, and was totally monagomous with him...so I was pretty nervous. But I really didn't have to be because this guy was really easy to talk to and really cool. And I'm not wanting to rush things with him because I like him a lot and I want him to consider me "relationship material"...and I know the whole drug use thing might cause a problem later on but I will just deal with it when I need to, I guess, because who knows what's gonna happen?

Yes Johnny Blue, you are on target about having a support system; I actually already see a counselor and have been seeing her since last year after the accident--I have issues like survivor's guilt stemming from that, of course, but obviously I have other issues that led to me getting high in the first place...Chinky said something about "weed not cutting it anymore, but what is it you're trying to cut?" In my case he's right. So in my opinion there was always something I was trying to do by getting high but unfortunately it never quite "worked"...only messed up my life even more...

I mean I honestly love getting high, I'm not gonna lie, but I have the junkie personality that always needs to take it too far, then it's just not fun anymore. It hasn't been that fun for quite awhile, so I do agree I'm starting to feel ready to make some positive changes, get my shit under control, and not just because of a guy. Even though I'm super happy I met this guy because I was just wanting to start dating again, and then I randomly met him and he's really cool!
 
OpiateGuy said:
Ive been nodding alllll fuckin night (just woke up, aprox. 3:00am), got 8 left for tomorrow. Will be repeating. Good night team.

And chinky i dont think thats a good idea at all to claim ur in a gang when ur not.. thats a good way to get hurt BAD or worse.. like i said u know gangbanging is like a religion in chicago.
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claiming your neighborhood is not a smart thing to do, if youre in another neighborhood. good way to get killed.
 
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Sup everyone? Not too much activity goin on today. So, just wanted to see how everyone's doin? Anyone in the Chi-town area recommend any specific types of foils/bags that been pretty good lately? I actually went to try my ol connect who used to have the blue devil bags and had some diff stuff, n it was crap.

Also, Chinky, I saw your response earlier about my question regarding all the different types of stamps/bags/foils in the area, and that helped clarify a bunch. Thank you sir.
 
Starting to nod, have 9 bags left, waiting on monday night football to come on. BEAR DOWN!

I might have asked this before, but what does everyone enjoy eating on opiates? Anyone have a favorite thing to eat/snack on when high/nodding? Ice cream is always a good one for me, but not feeling it tonight.. throw me some suggestions bros/blue valentine.
 
Gator Aid as a drink best thing on dope :) for food I would have to say cut up bananas which I keep in the freezer is a sweet snack while nodding and sippin' on my Gator Aid
 
I usually like to keep it sweet. Ice cream is awesome while high on opiates, I know TRM will agree with me on that.

Strawberry Frozen Fruit Bars, FTW!
 
Mmmm, red velvet cupcakes with cream cheese frosting, brownies with vanilla bean ice cream smothered in caramel, white chocolate macademia cookies (I like to bake)

otherwise from the store: Butterfinger candy bars, Edy's frozen pomegranate bars, and Reese's peanut butter cups...yum, now I am hungry! I just stocked up on candy, it was 70% off at Target for after-Halloween sale, which was AWESOME!

And yup I did go cop yesterday after takin a little break with subs...but I did NOT have sex with dboy this time because I'm really digging this new guy from the train. For once a guy with a normal job and normal life. I mean why does it seem that I tend to have sex with drug dealers? Prob. cuz in my life I tend to meet guys that are either junkies or dealers, and what with dopefiends' notoriously low sex drives I think it's the dealers that end up hitting on me anyway...so wow, it's flat-out awesome to meet a smart nice good-looking regular guy...yes I am getting high today but I am SERIOUSLY considering stopping using just so I can build a relationship with this guy (well, plenty of other reasons too, not just that!)
 
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