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^ My mom asked me one time if I was on crack. It took me a long time to realize that she was serious. I vowed that I would never ever smoke crack and it still bothers me that I have done it. No one knows I have smoked except for the guy I smoked with.

I started smoking crack and that shit got out of hand quickly, just doing it once a week turned into every night event when I worked at night. I vowed to never touch that shit again and I haven't. In that short time, crack put me in some of the most random and stupid situations.

Such as snorting cocaine in the front of a hair salon at 3am with all the lights on and blinds and windows open. I did a line and looked up and I was staring at a cop. He asked us what we were doing and somehow he did not see me snorting coke three feet in front of him. He thought we were breaking into the salon.
 
Lmao, my dad asked me if I was on crack once when I was 17 and was serious about it too. It was the only time he ever caught me high, I was only smoking weed but I was so high and being straight-up busted like that made me bug the fuck out with him all up in my face. Dude even drug tested me the next day but then never mentioned it again. These days we're cool with eachother, we even smoke together now. One time I asked him about it years later like "why the fuck did you drug test me when you KNEW I was high?" and he told me it was because he seriously thought I was on crack. (Lol I was already doing coke at that age but luckily i hadn't done it lately). Never done crack tho I did freebase once.
 
My parents once asked if I was doing meth. Maybe that did have to do with me being so skinny, but come on! My parents, bless them, barely know what drug does what so did not know that meth is NOT what makes one nod off...

But dope gives me energy sometimes too. I like the energized high, where I feel like getting things done. Sometimes it keeps me up at night too, if I'm really high I will just be too fucked up to sleep. I will just lay in bed, feeling good. I don't mind that too much--it's the laying in bed, feeling like crap with wd's, that really gets to me.

Today was a tough day. I took suboxone instead of getting high, and it was my grandma's funeral. The subs worked great, I felt fine physically but it was just a really emotional day. Not sure if I'm gonna cop tommorrow or not...I'm thinking about waiting a few more days since I've been doing so good on the subs, I'm proud of myself!
 
^ You will probably have to wait longer than usual to get high on H after taking the bupe. If you take bupe for consecutive days, it's blockade effect seems to last a lot longer than if you only take it for a day. It has such a long half-life that each daily dose is able to add onto the dose from the day before, so it builds up a bit. There is nothing worse than wasting opiates by doing them too soon after suboxone since you likely haven't done dope in a longer than usual time.
 
^^ Sorry about your grandma BV, nobody likes funerals. It's good that you're proud of yourself, good job on not using for a little while. Do you think you're looking to take a break or did you just not want to be high for the funeral?
 
So on tuesday I go down to pick up, as soon as i hit 7 mile I see cops, everywhere. I get to my spot, grab 5 tenths and leave. All the sudden I see this sketchy ford suv/jeep like car followin me, immediately knew it was a narc... Get flicked scarfed down the 5 bags I had.. Long story short they impound my car with the tow and ticket bullshit they do in the D... So im left on 7mile and <snip> without a car.. Walked to the nearest fastfood place go to the bathroom puke the 4 of the 5 tenths up, had my counselor pick me up. Was honest with my parents this time, wasnt fun... Going to the methadone clinic on tuesday with my dad... Guess thats good..
 
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Good point about the subs tommy, it sucks to waste dope. I'm probably not even gonna get high just yet anyway. Reckless at first I started out taking the subs because I didn't want to be high for the funeral, and I was busy doing family things and didn't want to leave and go cop. But now I haven't done dope since Monday and the subs are holding me so good, I am actually thinking about taking a break! What I would really like to do is gradually lower the subs over the next week or so until I am taking nothing, then get some days of being completely clean, no dope or bupe or anything. I am taking about 1mg of bupe in the mornings. I started out taking 2mg but lowered it to 1 yesterday and I feel pretty good. I have a actual date tommorrow with a nice, normal, non-dopefiend guy and I would like to make a good impression...

Spite, even though it sucked being honest with your parents, it is probably a good thing that you came clean, and now it sounds like your dad is being supportive, which is awesome. Hopefully the clinic will be good for you and you can have less drama in your life, ya know?
 
Hell yeah this drama bs better be done now... Such a horrible thing having to tell your father or mother"Hey remeber how I quit heroin 3 years ago after adam died?Oh you dont? Oh well thats good cause I never quit.." Had to do it fucking twice cause my parents are divorced. But yeah im fucking pyched about getting into the program, so fucked up im a 17 year old about to be on methadone.. Either way its a good thing in my opinion, Im like 5'6" and 108 pounds right now.. I weighed 125 in 8th grade, thats fucked up to me.. The clinic doesnt have a doc in til tuesday tho, gonna be a long weeekend, did get my freind to front my two packs from when he went down nothin amazing , either way im grateful to have it right now.
 
I don't think that people lose weight on dope at first. They start losing weight when they become dependent on opiates and can only eat when they are on them. A few weeks ago I was only able to eat at night after I finally got some dope in me. I've taken a break from the dope and have started putting on a little bit of the weight that I had lost.

Thats exactly how it happens tommy. I smoked pot exclusively for like 5 years and never made it above 140lbs and now that i did oxy and dope for the last 3 im up to like 160. And doin dope was the only thing that made me want to eat and now 34 days clean everything sounds good to eat.
 
I saw some article or video clip online showing in the UK they had setup these spots where it was like a combination of a needle exchange, but you could go in there, and they had these booths you could use to shoot up too. So, they had the fresh water, and these nurses and stuff on-site. Now that is one hell of an idea for keeping people safe. But, I think actually the US had leaned on some other government people into closing these shops down. However, I did hear they were trying to bring them back up.

It's actually in Vancouver, although the UK does have a limited number of people that receive prescription heroin for opiate dependence.

Here is the video on it.

Switzerland has heroin clinics, and I'm sure that the people have to shoot it on site. I don't know how this differs from the UK heroin prescription treatment program.
 
Govt produced and regulated heroin? That has got to be the cleanest, purest dope around...
then again, I'm sure they don't want to give anyone something too crazy, I wouldn't be surprised if they dumbed it down quite a bit.
 
It's actually in Vancouver, although the UK does have a limited number of people that receive prescription heroin for opiate dependence.

Here is the video on it.

Switzerland has heroin clinics, and I'm sure that the people have to shoot it on site. I don't know how this differs from the UK heroin prescription treatment program.

Yeah Tommyboy we got one guy on our board that gets a Diamorphine script.
It is very rare though of the 300,000 addicts in the U.K only about 3000 probably less get a Diamorphine prescription.
Methadone is the main treatment here as it is the cheapest , Subs are also used but not as common as Methadone.

What we do have in just about every city is access to clean needles , cookers everything used to prepare and use heroin.
 
Yeah Tommyboy we got one guy on our board that gets a Diamorphine script.
It is very rare though of the 300,000 addicts in the U.K only about 3000 probably less get a Diamorphine prescription.
Methadone is the main treatment here as it is the cheapest , Subs are also used but not as common as Methadone.

What we do have in just about every city is access to clean needles , cookers everything used to prepare and use heroin.

33 out of the 50 U.S states have needle exchange programs [source].
I think that they all give out cookers, cottons, bacteriostatic water, amongst other HR supplies. We have a thread here in NASADD for needle exchange discussion. I don't know what percentage of needle exchange programs provide you with Narcan (naloxone) to take home, but I hope all of them do.
 
33 out of the 50 U.S states have needle exchange programs [source].
I think that they all give out cookers, cottons, bacteriostatic water, amongst other HR supplies. We have a thread here in NASADD for needle exchange discussion. I don't know what percentage of needle exchange programs provide you with Narcan (naloxone) to take home, but I hope all of them do.

The Narcan thing has recently been introduced , i had to go on a short course before i was able to get it , & adminster if necessary .
Not sure how many other cities have it as my Needle Exchange is pretty ahead of the game .
 
Woke up sick with no hope of copping today because Ive got no ride to the spot.. FUCK, right? My boy texts me that hes gotta go drive somewhere for work and if i wanna cruise with him and smoke a little.. well, i was like yeah for sure, can we make a stop to meet one of my people? I gotta pick up some adderall for some tests/projects this week. No problem. Leaving to cop and get high in 15 minutes.. No more sickness for the rest of the weekend. hell yes. But yo, this shit isn't really fun like it was last year. Its turned into a fucking grind.
 
^ Then you should check into getting on methadone or bupe. The OC game took about a year for me to get sick of it as well.

You could also just go cold turkey, but I have never had any luck with that.
 
i thought i lost all these posts a few days ago cause i nodded off while typing and figured i lost it until i saw the restore the page...so i typed this out on weds and it saved it until right now..i would erase it but whats the point if i already typed it...

first off where are the mods at???

what.it.is has mutiple, meaning more then once on a page, back To back posts that are just mintes apart...that has never been accepted yet this kid has done 2-3x per page for the last like 4-5pages...i only noticed it cause i didnt post the last 2days so i was looking back at what i missed and saw this kid asking the same lame questions


Ha! I completely overlooked the 312, looked at location didn't see letters so just assumed he put like 123 or something cuz didn't feel like filling it out. But, it's a decent connect and the reason I was surprised same connect is because in the open-air market in Chicago seems like it's every person for himself. You get these one bags on a block, drive one block over, then they got like red tapes, then drive another block and it's like superman bags or some shit. When I lived in Indiana before coming up to Chicago I always pictured Chicago to be like how they did it on that show "The Wire", where it was all organized. Shit's crazy about people snitchin though.

Hmm..yeah, and in regards to the color, I guess maybe it is a norm the more brown the better, but occasionally get lucky with some white powder. BTW, speakin of cops, after I got mine, drove two blocks and there were these two cops that had these white guys all out of their car in handcuffs, more than likely goin to jail. Because honestly if you're white in those neighborhoods, more than likely you are trying to get something, or you already did. But it's like, why do cops fuck with people just trying to get high. They know that arrest isn't gonna get them like some cartel guy's phone #. When I had a cop pull me over once he even said he saw me go to "the spot" and come back to my car. Shit, if you know that corner is "the spot", why do you just sit there and let them operate but bust people as they leave there? Not that I'm upset they're letting the corner boys get in work, but why go after the smallest fish in the pond??
the first question is we used to be organized to a certain extent..by that i mean it might be all one gang in a certain area but really its all free enterprise and thats why they have diffent bags..if they GD, they prolly get their work off a higher GD(maybe not if they know the mexicans temselves) but when they break it down, they are working for themselves..thats why theres so many diffent spots..its all free enterprise.....the second question is why do they arrest the users and not the dudes on the corner when they know they are sellin there? its all about money in the long run..if they pop the dealer they might get 10bags but thats it... we are the ones bringing the money in, everytime one of us gets popped they get to auction off our vehicle and put the money in the citys pocke , they know we are more likely gonna post bail as opposed to sitting in county and a few other things..all putting the cash int the itys pokey

In cook county they have seperate divisions. Divisions for the violent offenders, the drug charge offenders, non-violent offenders, gang members, non gang members, mentally ill, all kind of shit. I, however have luckily never been in Cook County. I know it's a shithole there's no doubt about that, but what jail isn't. It can be kinda dangerous but you'll live. Ask Chinky, I know he has done a little time in Cook County.

And out of the 3 felonys 1 got thrown out.

cook county is a fucking shithole, if you're not in a gang have fun being a neutron. Get bonded out ASAP.

Also, if any of you try and bang in another state and find yourself in cook county but deep down know you're not real, I'd suggest you don't go claiming anything when youre in there.. you'll have a real bad time. I dont know why but in chicago gangbanging is like a religion. Im sure other people frm the chi can vouch for that

oh shit chinkys done time in cook county?

ive seen cook county lockup on msnbc and that place looks like hell on earth.


Chinky, how was your time in cook county?
imma answer all the county questions here instead of individual...how was it? to be honest ilived pretty good in there but i wasnt in long, only like month and half about and its its as bad as your gonna make it....i started in div 4 which was 2 to a cell and that was 15 and 8, so you spent most of the day locked up in your cell and it would alternate each day who got to stay in last at night..i did 3weeks like that and had a mexican celly who was buying 100$ a week in food and whatever else eas needed for the cell and i would spend 50$ a week , and so we lived and ate like kings..plus i had one of like 4 cells that could see the tv and hear it for the most part sometimes clear like sittin next to it and the only one who was able to sit and watch it..then we got moved to the dorms in div 2cause the girls were beating the shit out of each other and had to lock them all up..we got lucky though cause they didnt just throw us in any dorms they actually moved us all into the same dorm, so it was like we already knew each other and we all got along really..at first i hated the dorms cause i didnt like not having a cell to go back into a the end of the night to sleep and i have some privacy especially with eating cause alot of people dont have shit..but i grew to like it better cause you where able to get up and walk around all day long, yu got to stay up later most nights cause they make it a point to give us the same C.O s everyday and they switch every 50days i think or maybe 90..but haveing the same guards is awesome cause its way more laid back when everyone knows each othe and they know how how we get down and handle shit in the dorm..

so as you see it was straight for me but thats because i was in there for weed and was nonviolent and not in a gang but jsut because i wasnt in max doesnt mean shit cause if you run your mouth your gonna get hit regardless on were you live..and when you go to court you end up being in the same holding cells with the dudes who are in there for attempted murder and robbery and everything else..i seen a dude get knocked out for his damn near brand new fresh jordans and whats fucked up is the C.Os go and give him back his shoes and he dont want them cause the one dude told him he was gonna take them when they got back to county..so he left wearing no shoes, no joke and you really dont want to call yourself a neutron to the guards..just tell them your not in a gang and move on..

ya im getting very impatient ive tried to make contact a couple of times and they just blow me off i think its because ive been clean for like almost 2months and i dont look like a user no more but i didnt venture out to far maybe i need to go a lill farther out im right in hyde park probably not gonna find nothing close to here though

im also worried because i dont know nobody and im worried about oding i wannt to be with somebody when i do it because you never know what your gettin off the street i read alot things about some fucked up dope in chicago

i heard about that shit, bags of d cut with fentanyl, causing mad od's

but for sure man, be safe out there.

i combined your guys posts cause it relates..those fent bags and all that what.it hasnt happened in years i dont know why you would even mention that hasnt happened in years and when i did happen it was like one group of dudes selling it, it wasnt like half the city had it, and you had like a 1 in 4 chance...frankly i dont understand half the posts you were making...all these little hints your dropping isnt slcik, we arent here to help you out and score..just look threw the old chicago dope threads and figure out where to go and how it goes down...you cant be serious trying to cop in hyde park??? thats were the president lives, thres no way your gonna find it there...if you dont want to go to the west side cause your so close to the southside then go to the southside..its kinda the forgotton part of the city but in my opinion its the hotter part for white people..but like i said the westside is prolly obne of the biggest open air spots in the country, its not hard to find at all..stop being a pussy and tryin to get hooked up with a connect here and go find your own doope..and you said you dont want to do it by yourself cause your afraid of ODing???have you never done dope before or something, im so confused now?

Well I meant sketchy cuz it's always a possibility to get ripped off...especially if you ask the wrong people and they aren't holding, some of them might say they are and sell you empty foils or something...try to get it in a bag so you can at least see there's something in it. And maybe try a couple different guys with like just 20 bucks each and see what's the best then you can always go back esp. if ya get their number...listen when I moved up here I just went out looking for someone, I'm a girl and I just went to the ghetto and asked a couple guys, spread my money around and went back to the best guy...it was not too hard at all, man I'd be more worried about the cops than the dboys if I were you. I doubt you'll get shot or anything just try to go in the daytime and trust your instincts; if it feels off it probably is. These guys are pretty business-minded, they want you to be happy and be a repeat customer and there's a lot of competition.

As far as being worried about od'ing, I don't know what to say except start small, I'm not sure what your tolerance is so I definitely would never recommend how much you should or shouldn't do. You can always do more right? Anyway good luck, be careful please!

now that response you gave seems rather familier lol ..

Hey guys, what's up? I am on day 3 of taking subs instead of getting high, and I was completely planning on copping today but I changed my mind! I'm gonna keep this streak going, I really want to regain some control over my life! So every single day that I don't cop is a huge victory for me. TRM, I'm rooting for you (and myself too!)

I met this guy on the train today and he asked for my phone number, then called and asked me on a "date" this weekend. I'm talking about a real grown-up man, super nice and interesting. Gorgeous, and a chemical engineer so he's smart. THIS is the kind of guy I'd like to date, and compared to the guy I'm getting with right now they are just fucking worlds apart. Of course I'm terrified b/c I don't have any experience with the world of grown-up dating! But it's another great reason for me to get my life under control. I just want to be a normal person not a dope zombie...I know I can do better with my life than what I'm doing right now.
what happens when he finds out your a dope fiend?
 
Got my car back yesterday, was a blast driving to Detroit with my mom.. Went down today, really didnt want to after that getting my car seized but was bogue as fuck and ad work. Went to a more low key spot one of our hooks that mainly sells crack but will get us grams of H instead of having to buy individaul bags(most the people i fuck with in the D dont do many deals on the individaul bags). My "best"friend grabs gs of it and brings it back. Was weird bought 3 dimes of the same stuff while we were waiting for the whole g, wasnt bad but wasnt amazing, then later after work I grab a tenth off my friend and was noddin balls. Feel like I got lucky and got a bag that wasnt mixewd well with the cut.
 
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