9/11/96?

dpatches

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I really hate this fucking date! It's been fifteen years now and I still can't seem to figure it out. On this very date 1996 my brother was murdered.

He was at his junior year in college in Maine and was supposed to go out with this girl. Well apparently she had recently broken up with a very jealous boyfriend who'd found out my brother was hooking up with his ex. He went to my brother's apartment asked him to go and talk. They went for a walk near a river smashed him in the head with a rock then held him under 6 inches of water till he wasn't breathing. Apparently it was right across the street from the ex's house, which is where he ran afterward claiming my bro slipped fell hit his head and drowned. He being a lifeguard claimed to try cpr with no success and 911 was called.

Well after several weeks and an ever changing story with the police he was finally arrested and put in jail for murder. He was able to make bail even though he is a Canadian resident.

Finally 2 years later the trial finally comes and his final story came down to my brother punching him. Since my brother obviously wasn't there to tell his side it was considered self defense and he was convicted of manslaughter. He did 10 years in prison and is now a free man.

My brother and I were very close in age and were great friends. It just kills me that he was so young and there were so many things we both could of experienced together.His death has also caused me to become addicted to drugs and kinda lose evrything I ever had going for me. I had to drop out of college for many reasons pertaining to his death.

I just don't know what to do though. I don't want to trivialize anyone elses loss that's comes along with this tragic date. But everytime I hear mention of peoples loss do to thet terrorist attacks I wanna scream and say hey what about me I lost someone too 5 years before that infamous date. I really don't like this feeling and it happens all day every year on this date since 2001. Also evrytime I hear that date on any media outlet it brings up this feeling of dread and brings back all the horrible memories of his death, and that date is constantly being mentioned.

So what I'm getting at is how can I learn to share this date with out having feelings of anger? I really am sympathetic and feel for anyone who lost someone due to the terrorist attacks and don't wanna seem selfish but that date means so much more to me than an attack against this countries freedom. So much that I call it the terrorist attacks and not 9/11.

My apologies in advance I'm not trying to say anyone elses loss on that date is any less than mine and I had no intentions of trying to offend anyone one. I would really just like to get over these feelings of jealousy, dread, grief, and rage every time I hear mention of the terrorist attacks.
 
I'm sorry for your loss <3

try breathing as a way to connect your mind and body, realizing the universal connection of all matter and energy
 
Thanks guys , 15 years later and it hasn't seemed to get any easier..

Thizz I was going to post this in TDS but this forum won rock, paper, scissors.
 
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So what I'm getting at is how can I learn to share this date with out having feelings of anger? I really am sympathetic and feel for anyone who lost someone due to the terrorist attacks and don't wanna seem selfish but that date means so much more to me than an attack against this countries freedom. So much that I call it the terrorist attacks and not 9/11.
Hi dpatches, firstly I am so sorry to hear about your brother's murder. That is absolutely horrific and I can't even imagine how difficult it has been for you. I hope that it is slowly getting easier to cope with, over time. But I have to say, it is understandable how the constant coverage of the terrorist attacks would be making it difficult for you to work through your own emotions surrounding that date.

How many close friends and family do you have that you can share memories of your brother with? Is it possible that you could arrange some kind of family get-together around that date each year, and maybe just ignore the TV and newspapers and radios for the week or two leading up to the date?? That way, not only will it distract you from the media coverage of the terrorist attacks, but also it will allow you to focus on celebrating your brother's life and sharing the time with loved ones.

Would something like that be possible?

Also, have you ever had any counselling to talk about your brother's death? If so, how long ago was it, and do you think it helped you cope? If not, is it something you could consider doing?
 
The sad reality is that death dealt by the bushel publicly, will always drown out individual tragedy.
The solution usually comes when individuals do tell of their tragedies, and people will always begin to connect more with those stories, rather than the spectacular ones. It just takes someone willing to share the individual memories of those lost. People will listen, as long as they're around to do so..... no matter what else has happened at that particular point in history.

IMHO...
On 9/11/01, thousands of people lost their brothers & sisters, fathers & mothers, wives & husbands.
The way I see it is that since the same day in '96, you've been mourning & raging against the pointless loss of your beloved brother..... and though it was a 1-in-365 chance those terrorists would pick the same day, you're angry because they stole the thunder from your own day of tragedy.
And I'm sorry, but grief doesn't get to have seniority because it was caused years earlier.
I suspect that if it had been an earthquake, volcano eruption, or other natural disaster that had instead killed thousands of innocent people..... you'd still be pissed because your special day of mourning had been muted. It's just easier to be mad at human nature, than at Mother Nature.

So turn off your TV on September 11th, and try to think of it as an incredibly shitty day when *everyone* lost someone..... no matter what year or circumstance..... and that everyone feels the same way as you.
 
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... it takes hard rationale for such irrational matters dpatch, i suspect this man knows a few things about this kind of, slop of life; as it may seem.

Ixchellian
"So turn off your TV on September 11th, and try to think of it as an incredibly shitty day when *everyone* lost someone..... no matter what year or circumstance..... and that everyone feels the same way as you."

indeed -
and i must reiterate in my own thoughts:
the thought of losing my brother is maddening - understand that you can share the pain of those who had family die as a result of that day of terrorist attacks - and that there are others, many who can share your pain mutually so.

~
i would try to harvest this pain you feel, and use it as a source of energy, to share a sense of relation that would be perceived as positivity, and hope for others who have suffered similar circumstances.



<3
 
Hey everyone thanx for your condolonces. This time of year sucks and it's tough to handle. Not only is it my brother's anniversary but my father's birthday falls on the exact day of my brother's funeral when he was laid to rest. It hurts to even see him on that day but I always make it a point to meet up with him have a few drinks and burn a few.

I've also been clean for the most part of 4 years now but always chip for a few weeks this time of year and end up going on a huge fentanyl bender. I've been so fucked up lately and lost my motivation. So bad to the point that I bought a new boat last week ( I'm a lobsterman and owner of the boat and commercial fishing liscence) ,spent a shit ton of money on it and haven't even taken it out to pull my gear in over a week. This isn't me at all either , I'm a very hard worker , always have been, working 6-7 day a week 12hrs a day. For some reason I just can't get out of my funk this year.



@ n3o I do not really have any friends around here I had recently moved down toward the waterfront to be closer to work. Which is over an hour from where I've lived my whole life, which isn't that bad except I don't have a liscence due to a dui. Also lost alotta my good friend due to my addiction. As far as doing a big get together to celebrate his life we did that for the first few years then my parents ended up divorcing because my Mom pretty much lost her mind when my bro passed and became extremely lazy. Doing absoslutely nothing all day.So after that the whole family was pretty much divided and no one felt comfortable meeting at one place at the same time together. As far as avoiding the media for weeks before the 11th yeah I could do that. But I'd say on any given day between all the media outlets there are and being someone that listens to the radio, reads the paper, and watches the news religiously that date is mentioned at least 5 times daily. It's fucked up though bc it's not somethin the average person would notice either. I've also tried counseling for like 2 years but didn't really take any thing outta that. It was during the point where I was more focused on opiates than anything though.Thanx for your advice it is greatly appreciated

Edit: Props to the mod for removing that moronic post. I've heard that line a million times and it's usually from someone that leads a pretty sheltered life with no social skills and just hasn't experienced such a hurtful loss.
 
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^ No I haven't named the boat yet. I've got a pretty long list of ideas but like I said having trouble getting out of my funk. Why any ideas? I actually think I'm gonna make myself clean her up and paint her today.Maybe even just take her out for a nice long ride without doing any work. I love being out on the ocean and it might be just what I need today.
 
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as a sailor, you must have an appreciation for the Moon, and the Tides, or have a very close connection with both.

the Ocean and the Moon, both reflect, and the same as time comes and goes, bringing a new, along with a reflection of life and our deepest thoughts, or thoughts and eyes from the other side of the world.

or maybe it isnt that way exactly, but it sure seems so, and as so, the only eyes I can imagine you having along with you pushing off and on before Dawn, are Your Brothers Eyes.
 
I'm really sorry for your loss. That's horrible...I can't believe that asshole was given a slap on the wrist for that. :o

I know if I were in your situation, I would probably just try not to watch the news/read the newspaper around that time of year. Focus on your brother and all of the amazing memories you've shared. If you can't avoid the media completely, maybe you can talk to people online that did lose someone on 9/11 and tell them your brother's story. Maybe letting someone know that you were hurting too and that date is important to you would help. Writing him a letter about how you feel around the anniversary of his death could also be therapeutic.

I completely understand why you would feel that way. It's not wrong to be angry. You are hurting. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but I hope you find a way to make yourself feel a little better and make things a little easier on you. Good luck and once again I'm really sorry for your loss.
 
^ No I haven't named the boat yet. I've got a pretty long list of ideas but like I said having trouble getting out of my funk. Why any ideas? I actually think I'm gonna make myself clean her up and paint her today.Maybe even just take her out for a nice long ride without doing any work. I love being out on the ocean and it might be just what I need today.

Do you have any regular deckhands to help and pull gear normally?
Whenever I lost loved-ones or comrades (plus my divorce while I was in Iraq), going to work and pulling as many hours as I could along with having helpful & understanding coworkers, ended up being the most effective grief-therapy & counselling I could've ever hoped for.
My peers were much more able to provide the necessary ugly truth & tough love, as opposed to my family attempting to spare my feelings and sugar-coat things.
I found it was a lot easier for me to confront things like death, loss, and anger with my fellow soldiers & coworkers, than with my family.

On the those days, it always harder next year when they marked such a loss, and I always get melancholy & angry during them. I never wanted to go to work while feeling so down & shitty, but after actually getting there I'd space the grief and anger pretty quickly.

Ripping apart engines/transmissions/axles, busting my knuckles, getting bathed in oil & dirt, torching stubborn bolts, venting on inanimate objects, and getting work done ahead of schedule made for effective catharsis.

I'd like to see some pictures of your boat, once you get her all gussied up nice. :)
 
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So I ended up taking the new boat out for a nice long ride off shore today, to stretch her legs. Boy was it just what I needed stayed out there all day did a little bit of fishing and pulled some of my gear just to see how she handled it. Man was it fucking awesome it took a little getting used to bc it's just over 30ft longer than my other boat. It's got me so siked I'm heading out first thing in the morning to pull the rest of my gear. I fell in love with this new boat and am now living on it. Been living on my other boat for a little over a year now and just moved all my shit onto the new boat today. It's great living on a boat but I don't think it's for everyone.

Panic in Paradise

I do have an extreme appreciation for the moon and the tides. I agree with you all the way and I know he's watching from the otherside but I just wish he were here and we could head out on the seas together.It really makes me feel better to hear all this from someone else and I thank you.

hustlababy

Thanx for your sympathies and your thoughts. I've never really thought about actually sitting down and writing a letter to him myself. I actually used to keep a little rubbermaid container at his grave site that people could leave such memories . I never actually did it myself though and to be completely honest it's been about 7 years since I've even been to his grave and I used to go there almost daily. The fact that my liscence has been gone for 6 years now doesn't help but I think it's mostly bc it hurts too much.

Ixchellian

You are right on man diving into workhelps big time. Which I've always done getting lost in wrenching on my boat motor on anything just put's all my focus into something positive. But for some reason I just couldn't get motivated till today to do it. I'm guessing it's all the fentanyl I've been doing lately,which I still gotta kick. I'll tell ya what tho it felt great to just get out there today alone even tho I am still using.I do have aguy that goes with me to pull my gear. He's a great guy and will do anything for me and he's a hard worker just like myself. I've tried talking about the whole situation with my brother with him and he instantly changes the topic. I can tell it makes him uncomfortable and I don't know if he just doesn't know what to say or what. We usually talk about anything and evrything out on the sea but as soon as something heavy or emotional comes up he just changes the subject.I'll have some pics of the boat soon that I'll post so you can check her out. May be a while tho bc I gotta have her hauled out and it's gonna be a long process to get her lokking how I want. Hoping to get right on that after pulling gear tomorrow.

One more thing ever since my bro has passed women seem to shy away from me. Since he passed I've only had one serious relationship. Other than that all the relationships never last more than a month or 2. Any time I'd try to talk to them about my brothers passing you could tell they wouldn't wanna talk about it. Even the serious relationship she wouldn't talk about it with me and were together for several years. Now it's been over 3 years since my last relationship and I just get tired of being alone and random hookups. I'm just wondering ladies am I "damaged goods"?
 
^---- its not you specifically. IMHO, its just that many women can see/sense the despair & anger in us better than we can ourselves, and it makes them usually shy away. once that gets better, I'm sure you'll do fine.

question: do you ever talk to the sea? sometimes, she answers. :)
 
^ Yes I do talk to the sea on occasion and I have noticeced that it does answer. The wierdest thing that I've noticed about the seas though is she's kinda in sync with my moods. If I'm happy and content out there it's usually flat ass calm like a pond out there. When I'm kinda down in the dumps and just feeling alone I've noticed there is long moping slow rolling waves that sorta have a rhythym to them. When I'm just in a tears ass pissed off mood the seas are also angry white caps big crashing dangerous waves and the occasional rogue wave that'll knock you on your ass like a sucker punch. The seas will even change when I'm out there as my feelings change. Kinda wierd huh?"
 
One more thing ever since my bro has passed women seem to shy away from me. Since he passed I've only had one serious relationship. Other than that all the relationships never last more than a month or 2. Any time I'd try to talk to them about my brothers passing you could tell they wouldn't wanna talk about it. Even the serious relationship she wouldn't talk about it with me and were together for several years. Now it's been over 3 years since my last relationship and I just get tired of being alone and random hookups. I'm just wondering ladies am I "damaged goods"?

Definitely not. If anything, they aren't worth your time because someone that really cares for you would want to be there for you. You just have to keep an open mind and you'll find a woman that will WANT to talk to you about it and help you process things and get through it.
 
So I managed to pull outta my funk and you were right staying busy did it. I had my boat hauled outta the water and have been in the process of giving it a complete restoration. I've been working like sixteen hours a day on her at the boat yard. Almost done just doing the last of the paint tomorrow and then splashing her back in the water on Friday. I've atually just realized that working on the boat, whether it's wrenching on the motor or doing some of the carpentry in the cabin, is extremely thereaputic. Plus it's rewarding to have something to show for it after redirecting all my frustration, anger, depression and grief. I've actually been quite happy lately , for the first time in a long ass time, and it feels fucking great:D I finally came up with a name too F/V CHAIN REACTION, kinda fitting since I'd made the money to start this business years ago through making chain bags for the scallop boats. Thanx again everyone. Pics of the boat coming soon..................
 
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