8th Issue Heroin Discussion v. There is hope in a bag of dope

What is your ROA for your dope?

  • Sniffing

    Votes: 17 28.8%
  • I.V.

    Votes: 39 66.1%
  • Smoking

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Plugging

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • More than 1 way

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Total voters
    59
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I take tar, heat it in a spoon and cool it, then its crushable after being carefully removed from the spoon. Mix in 25-50mg of Diphenhydramine from those capsules, put the mix under a dollar bill and run a lighter over it until its a consistant golden brown, my god its the closest thing to IV'ing tar i've ever felt.

But after 2-3 days of that your nose begins to absorb less and less due to the membranes becoming clogged. I've found that using a nasal spray 30 minutes after my last line works like a charm.

I would just take the diphenhydramine orally instead of sniffing it. It is just adding to your nose being clogged. Why not just make a solution with the tar, and put drops of that in your nose?
 
No way will you go to jail for a needle..you night get arrested for it sure but its a misdemeanor and you will be able to bail out for like $100, shit you prolly could get an ibond for it..which basically let's you out of jail for free...unlike a ticket and letting you go on the scene, the cops arrest you and do the fingerprinting and all that but then let's you go llike its a ticket

I heard about people getting cuffed for it so I thought people went to jail my bad about the misinformation. The only legal trouble I have had is a drug paraphernalia charge for a home made pipe when I was 14 got suspended for a little bit at school then payed fine with 24 hours community service, but 10 years LEO free is good.

I'm not sure if this is the place for this, but friend just got 11 methadone pills that are 10mg (white rectangular, 57 and 71 with line like indention between the numbers and a M in a square on the other side)and he kicked me one, never tried the stuff before but I heard it lasts a while, he is trying to kick because he uses enough to get sick. I have never used enough to get sick because chippin sounds a lot more fun. You guys ever try like 8mg of subs without a tolerance? I get an odd pleasant feeling them but unlike dope, but I heard some other people don't really feel anything.
 
8mgs of suboxone is actually a pretty decent dose. If you have a low tolerance, I wouldn't take that much. It's a bit overkill, so I would recommend a lower dose, like 2 or 4mgs. Maybe take 2mgs, wait an hour, and take another 2 if you still feel like you need it.

Make sure that you wait until any other opiates are out of your system before taking suboxone though, otherwise you could experience precipitates withdrawal.
 
i tried using the nasal pray once before i wa gonna use cause i know it always cleans me out..and when i went to get high like an hour afterwards, nothing happened..its like the spray put a layer of protection on my nose and i wasnt able to aborb the dope threw my nose..now i dont know if it really happened or maybe my tolerance went up or whatever it was

but nasal sprays are known to be addicting and can basically make it to where you have to use it everyday for yournose to not clog up..this actually happened to my aunt back in the 80s cause of her bad allergys and whatever else it might have been...but from what im told is she would use damn near a bottle of that shit a day to keep her nose open and had to use it like everhour or her nose would clog up
 
In Detroit at the needle exchange bus we get a card saying we cannot be prosecuted for carrying syringes. Almost like being a registered user I suppose. Ive never had to use the card )knock on wood) cause any time the cops have found my works on me they dont give a shit. The card is only good in Detroit. Im sure the burb cops would at the least ticket me.
 
you want suggestions?

How about taking some with you? That sounds like a good idea if your afriad of being sick..or what about subs? If you know people who use, someone is bound to have some..

for me I need a half a bag a day to keep the sick off for the day..so just go buy a jab and do a bag or whatever so your not sick everyday and you should be good..it might be hard to buy a jab and not get high off it but who cares your just tryin not to he sick.

yeah i would love to take some with me. my habit is about 5 bags a day. so i am nervous to take it on the plane and to OpiateGuy i will be leaving out of O'hare. i will be traveling for 3 days. i think if i find some empty capsules or get online i can fill a few up and put them in a pill container. i use to take norcos with me in the container no problem but i switched to H and my tolerance has gone up. so a few more questions. how many oxy's would i need to hold me over in anyones opinion? i tried suboxone a few weeks ago but only took 2mg and it did nothing. i think it was way too low for a 5 bag a day habit. what if i did that how much do you think i would need per day to be ok. any info is much appreciated i know we all hate that we have to do this. and i IV so i would probably have to snort this stuff if i take it. so i have 3 options, 1 try to take H with me somehow, get some oxy's to hold me over or some suboxone. TGIF and have a good weekend everyone.
 
I consistently used afrin with speed and heroin. Its great for opening up your sinuses, but only next day inflammation type, not cut still in the nose. For cut in the nose I take a hot ass shower until I can rocket that crap out. afterwards you have a 15-20 minute window to snort more, or presumably take the afrin. I always just went with a quick snort since the shower already did the trick.
 
What a fuckin time for my nose to act up, i've got 30 caps sitting here but can't snort anything. Time to break out the afrin, i guess.
 
Ive tried about a dozen times with my dope, sprinkle it on, then drops of water to get a paste. I never felt much compared to snorthing it, and there was always a lot of black shit left on the foil. If i kept heating it the foil would get little holes... all in all smoking my powder was a complete waste. And possibly more dangerous than snorting/plugging.
 
There's really no way for me to offer you advice about what will hold you over...dosage is just too unpredictable and everyone has a different reaction, like for me I would be fine off just one bag of H but oxy's barely do anything for me...I used to think suboxone just didn't work for me the way it seemed to work for other people. Well, it turned out I was basically an idiot taking subs all wrong at first. I had a fairly large dope habit, so I thought I'd need a lot of suboxone. I was wrong though, now I feel like less is more when it comes to suboxone. And, at first I hated the taste of subs so much that I would never let them fully dissolve sublingually. And that drastically altered the effectiveness of them. So now when I take subs (I have the strips basically for emergencies) I only take 2mg to start, and I make sure they fully dissolve and I'm taking them correctly. And guess what-now they will actually work for me! Also, I think it was a little mental for me too. I had the mind-set that suboxone wouldn't do shit for me, and I think that affected my reaction. So now I get a much better result off the subs.

Yay for Friday! I'm going on a family trip this weekend--quality time with mom, dad, and my little sister at our cottage in Michigan. And I'm actually excited about it! I am reconnecting with my sister and that's really cool. I already went and copped early in the day so I'm all set. My dope guy has been talking about us hanging out...he says I should "kick it with him and his boys" sometime. Personally I feel this probably isn't a good idea...he seems like a nice guy and all, but I don't want to complicate anything so I should probably just keep it professional...any opinions on that? How close is too close? Especially between a guy and a girl...I don't want our business dealings to get screwed up you know?

Oh yeah I definitely remember the days of a clogged up nose...before I started on the needle, of course. Years ago I used to snort tar, had to mix it with dormin in a blender to snort, and it was hell on my nose. I used to make a dope nasal spray and that seemed to help when I couldn't snort powder.
 
Blue Valentine, if your guy wants to kick it with you its because he wants to fuck you. He might very well have the idea that you're an easy junkie who will fuck him/his boys for some dope. Seriously, I strongly recommend you don't hang out with him at all unless you want to fuck him for some dope, cause thats all he wants. I used to pull the same shit with college girls when I was selling a little bit of coke.

Also, good to hear you're reconnecting with your family. How old are you and your sister? You too close? Have fun on the tri and be sure not to get caught with the dope/high and ruin the whole trip for everyone.
 
There's really no way for me to offer you advice about what will hold you over...dosage is just too unpredictable and everyone has a different reaction, like for me I would be fine off just one bag of H but oxy's barely do anything for me...I used to think suboxone just didn't work for me the way it seemed to work for other people. Well, it turned out I was basically an idiot taking subs all wrong at first. I had a fairly large dope habit, so I thought I'd need a lot of suboxone. I was wrong though, now I feel like less is more when it comes to suboxone. And, at first I hated the taste of subs so much that I would never let them fully dissolve sublingually. And that drastically altered the effectiveness of them. So now when I take subs (I have the strips basically for emergencies) I only take 2mg to start, and I make sure they fully dissolve and I'm taking them correctly. And guess what-now they will actually work for me! Also, I think it was a little mental for me too. I had the mind-set that suboxone wouldn't do shit for me, and I think that affected my reaction. So now I get a much better result off the subs.

Yay for Friday! I'm going on a family trip this weekend--quality time with mom, dad, and my little sister at our cottage in Michigan. And I'm actually excited about it! I am reconnecting with my sister and that's really cool. I already went and copped early in the day so I'm all set. My dope guy has been talking about us hanging out...he says I should "kick it with him and his boys" sometime. Personally I feel this probably isn't a good idea...he seems like a nice guy and all, but I don't want to complicate anything so I should probably just keep it professional...any opinions on that? How close is too close? Especially between a guy and a girl...I don't want our business dealings to get screwed up you know?

Oh yeah I definitely remember the days of a clogged up nose...before I started on the needle, of course. Years ago I used to snort tar, had to mix it with dormin in a blender to snort, and it was hell on my nose. I used to make a dope nasal spray and that seemed to help when I couldn't snort powder.

sounds iike your dealer wants to have sex with you. The guy I go through is always banging a hot junky girl I woud imagine your smart enough to understand the implications.
 
I just read this on 420chan's /opi/

EastcoastGuy said:
I live in southern CT, and around here bundles usually weight out to .3 I didnt have a problem with this until I was picking up for somebody one day and they told me they wanted to weigh out the bundle in front of me, to make sure i wasnt "skimping them". Once they saw that it only weighed out to .3 they argued with me that a bundle is supposed to be a gram, meaning each bag is .1

So, my question is; what is the usual bundle weight for you in your area?

Damn, is this really how it goes on the eastcoast? That fucking sucks. Here in Chicago there is always a gram sometimes aan extra point or two more in the jabs (our equivalent to a bundle).. I couldn't even imagine how pissed I'd be if I found out I was payin <snip> for .3 of dope. lmao, I always heard those stamp bags were really short and thats why people could sell em for <snip> , but I mean <snip> for 10 bags (and only weighs to .3) STILL isn't worth it.
 
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In a way thats the game. My dealers wife was a heroin addict, so every time I bought hed short me and get her up. He burned me bad once and I paid individual stamp prices for 44 stamps. It still got me shittered out, but I wanted a weight, not 44 fingered and bloated with price labeled stamp bags. Like there were some nearly exploding bags labeled at twice the price of the normal stamps...

Im sure he got lazy and was nodding so he just started filling the bags full so that he didnt have to say make 100 stamps. He asked another contact of mine for some dormin a day before he sold me my stuff. Id always told him I prefered quality over quantity but he didnt listen. And then the one time he brings me insanely strong dope I very nearly died with some neuropathy that Im recovering from.

When I was ICU they thought I had spinal meningitis, my injection site had a huge rust colored welt. and I had a fever spike up to 104 after about 48 hours post injection. They administered antibiotics and did a spinal tap. within 4 hours of the antibiotics the rust welt disappeared and my fever was gone.

I used a new .2um filter, syringe and needle. The only things that were questionable was the spoon from my drawer I used to collect the wheel filtered dope. The agent was clearly bacterial... but the wheel filter should have stopped any of that. This confounds me and I have thought a lot about it.

When I worked in a bacteriology lab we kept a spray bottle of 200 proof for disinfecting everything. I guess the only further precaution I could have taken was to spray my hands, spoon and wheel filter. The filters were loose in my rig kit not individually wrapped.
 
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I hate having to wait on my guy when im not feeling very well but at least in my case he tells me why i gotta wait. And today i had to wait 2 hours for his crew to cap up a new shipment so that meant the dope was pretty good today compared to when i picked up last week and they were at the end of their shit. Anyway happy friday everyone enjoy the weekend. Gonna be full of college football for me woohoo.
 
Yeah, I really figured that I should avoid hanging out with him altogether...we have talked about personal stuff, so he knows that I'm a widow, and I am getting the vibe that he thinks we can just fuck because I so desperately need it (which isn't true) and I'm not the junkie-whore type, so I think I should avoid all these sexual ideas and keep it simple. He's got the best stuff out of the guys I've met here, and he is prompt and reliable so I definitely don't want to fuck that up!!
About to go on the family trip...my sister is 24, I'm 28. I have lived away from my family here in chicago ever since I went away to college and got married. J was from Carbondale, and I met him while I was at SIU, and just stayed there. Now I'm back after the whole tragedy and my family has been really supportive. Sometimes I'm jealous of them though, my siblings are SO put together and perfect. My sis has a good downtown job, a really nice apartment, she's gorgeous, and motivated and certainly not a junkie. But she is not judgemental, so I love that.
 
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