8A and 8B visuals

[chris_p]

I didn't really understand what was meant by these two terms until yesterday night. Accidentally plugged an insane dose of 2cb (100mg) and saw basically my entire mind collapsed into an infinite series of sharp blue 2D shapes that felt like they penetrated my brain and my very being, it felt like I was 'becoming' every single stored piece of information in my mind all at once. There was no feeling of a presence and no entities, it all felt extremely logarithmical and digital like I was witnessing the inner working of my mind and seeing the 'raw' unprocessed and compressed memories which my eyes were comprehending as an endless series of shapes.

I can only describe this is an "8A" breakthrough. When I think of breakthroughts, I think of my DMT experiences where everything becomes alive. My entire room turned into a series of spinning golden triangles and there were pyramids growing out of the ground with hundreds of faces and eyes all staring at me and it was like there was a trillion presences all around me and everything felt extremely real and there were heavy motifs of existentiality and like I was being exposed to an infinite mirror all staring into myself. This feels in extreme contrast to what I witnessed yesterday, its like the two different lobes of my brain were tripping, the right one for pure processing and logic was 8A and the one side for art, tribes, self-awareness, concepts of self realization and existence was 8B

Has anyone else experienced and of this? Having serious revelations since whats happened to me. I felt like I've literally seen the entire inside out of my mind. Not sure if it's just hallucinations or if I'm actually on to something here

 

[Esperighanto]

I've experienced breakthroughs like this from large doses of 2C-B, mescaline, N,N-DiPT, LSD, N,N-DMT, 5-MeO-DiPT, 25C-NBOMe, and allylescaline just off the top of my head. It kind of represents the point of maximally saturating yourself in serotonergics, it seems. Sometimes there are presences that feel like the collective consciousnesses of my ancestors, sometimes it's somewhat precognizant visions, mescaline fans often refer to these states as "visionary states". They're wicked neat, acid (~1.5mg) with ketamine (~600mg) has done it before, or this old potion I brewed up with 150mg of N,N-DiPT, 45mg of 2C-B, 25mg of 5-MeO-DiPT and 150ug of LSD got me there as well.

Long before I was using psychedelics, I was coding and hacking shit, and I find that this point of "saturating" myself with serotonin feels a lot like taking a decompiler to my brain.

 

[AnatolianSun]

Now that sounds like a mind bogglingly strong experience but Esper is sounding very lucid with his words for me yet out my league of being able to handle I wouldn't be able to process such an intense experience I am experienced but such a lightweight also not composed enough to play it safe I tend to take things too far so I try to narrow my choices down to what feels approachable for my unstable nature

One time on NBOMe I got really far out taking a strong dose before I understood the risks fully probably the most bizarre visual like my visual reality at one point was still normally visible but a strange mosaic membrane of what seemed like eyes viewing me covering all of the surface of reality appeared for a brief yet impactfully on my memory stretched out moment it was all encompassing the sensation and assumption of what was happening before my eyes did not mean to underline could not seem to undo it

 

[Esperighanto]

what seemed like eyes viewing me covering all of the surface of reality

I had daily dosed ayahuasca for 8-10 months at one point, and this tactfully sums up what I used to call "the face of the gods", it was like every animal I've ever seen flashing at a speed where I could see each one, but it was faster than anything I've otherwise perceived and been able to meaningfully articulate. There was a veil over the animals' faces, kind of like a living, writhing mosaic of symmetrical glass, in neon colors that shift relative to the colors aronud them. Fractals like that are pretty normal, but the face thing only occurred on DMT, DPT, Mescaline (Peyote as well as mescaline acetate), and 25C-NBOMe. This all sounds a lot like DMT, as well as this part:

memory stretched out

Extreme and intense time dilation, signature DMT breakthrough experience. Did you find it euphoric or "miraculous"? I would've described my initial breakthroughs as such, certainly.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

sounds like no fun to me