72 hours clean...what to expect?

[WSPhish]

I have officially hit the 72 hours mark clean and sober from a newly formed heroin habit (1-2 bags a day), but i had an on and off (more or less always on) at least 120mg of oxycodone and upwards to 240mg for the last year. Since August, I have been using anything to keep me from being sick (pieces of suboxone, dope, oxy, etc). I have only used .25mg of xanax yesterday at around 5pm. What can I expect from here? The soreness isn't as bad, but still way anxious, no energy, and pretty mild restless legs. Anything I can do to alleviate the finals stages of the first week and beyond? I can get tramadol, but really don't know about using it 72 hours in. Last time I got clean (which was for a month), I had access to taper with suboxone and extreme amounts of xanax. I'm trying to use xanex as a last resort, I want to get my shit together.

 

[Cancerdead]

I would steer clear of the tramadol, your 72 hours in and usually that's where withdrawals kind of peak. From here on out it's only going to get easier. Before I started using only suboxone my withdrawals would only last about 7 days, after using sub everyday for 2 years my withdrawals were almost a month long ordeal. If you can help it try not to take too much suboxone. As for the xanax it is helpful with anxiety but be careful, those things are addictive as well and I hear the withdrawals are worse than anything any opiates can put you through. Good luck and congrats on hitting the 72 hour mark.

 

[WSPhish]

Thanks brother. I am staying away from suboxone completely...all it does it prolong w/d's. This is cold turkey by the way, outside of .25mg of xanax and normal amounts of marijuana (little under a gram smoked over three days)

 

[itsALLfake]

^Good.. I wish I could trade the quick detox compared to the 4+year circus I had with Buprenorphine.

I think you typing on a forum is a good indication of how it is going to go for you. I would still be gurgling bile out at the 3 day mark..worst experiences I've ever had. If you're not having bad physical symptoms now, the physical symptoms are going to seem a lot worse by your mental state. You're going to have mild leg and back cramps, if not already. The mental stress is really the hardest part, but it is extremely manageable if you realize that your head is just trying to make it stop as quickly and easy as possible. I went completely cold turkey from a daily Alprazolam and Buprenorphine habit. I didn't feel anything negative the first two weeks. I had random moments where I was trying to force panic attacks to get Xanax in the facility I was in, but I only got the annoying pain that comes from your bones at the two week mark. Buprenorphine is a completely different animal, but I'm just putting that out there.

 

[Cancerdead]

Always good to have some buds for those situations I know the cold turkey method all to well. I dropped off from 14-16mgs of sub everyday to nothing and I swear it was more than two weeks before I started to feel even a little bit normal. It's never easy, no amount of withdrawal is, but it's definitely worth the trouble to get clean. Keep it up man, each day is a bigger deal than you know. I still smoke weed everyday, actually helps me to not think about opiates. I wouldn't worry about that at all. That's just me though.

 

[WSPhish]

^Good.. I wish I could trade the quick detox compared to the 4+year circus I had with Buprenorphine.

I think you typing on a forum is a good indication of how it is going to go for you. I would still be gurgling bile out at the 3 day mark..worst experiences I've ever had. If you're not having bad physical symptoms now, the physical symptoms are going to seem a lot worse by your mental state. You're going to have mild leg and back cramps, if not already. The mental stress is really the hardest part, but it is extremely manageable if you realize that your head is just trying to make it stop as quickly and easy as possible. I went completely cold turkey from a daily Alprazolam and Buprenorphine habit. I didn't feel anything negative the first two weeks. I had random moments where I was trying to force panic attacks to get Xanax in the facility I was in, but I only got the annoying pain that comes from your bones at the two week mark. Buprenorphine is a completely different animal, but I'm just putting that out there.

In the first 48 hours, I felt like absolute death, but today it's starting to alleviate a bit.

 

[WSPhish]

So i ended up relapsing at around the 100 hour mark...used 20mg of oxycodone. how bad will withdraw be in the morning?

 

[neversickanymore]

Hey WSPhish.. welcome to Blue light.. I like the handle.. Love WSP, A good friend of mine is part of this new band check them out when they relaese in January I think Hard Working Americans


Sorry you are struggling with this.. opiat addiction is rough.. It is likely that you have basically reset yourself to the beginning of the tunnel again But getting clean and staying clean is so worth it.. I remember looking over at a good friend of mine, when we were totally physically dependent, just shake his head and say, "worst thing in the world" about having to take that shit just to feel ok. You can and will do this, I feel better now all the time than I did all the time when using. Here are some medications that can help significantly with the acute withdrawal. Aso as Cancerdead said please stay away from the tramadol and every other drug that interacts with the opiat receptors, we need those to be unstimulated and shut down to get out of acute withdrawal, every time we use anything that affects them we may receive some relief but will end up prolonging the acutes indefinitely. Unfortunately there is no real way to not pay the piper when we exit out of this lame ride. People that use another opiate no matter how weak seem to just prolong their misery or end up physically dependent on that substance.. this includes loperamide.

The medications I would explore the use of fror detox would be:

>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE<
OR >Lyrica<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol

Addiction Guide

SMART Recovery (Support Group information and discussion)

Twelve-Step Addiction Recovery Support Groups

Varied Approaches to Addiction Recovery


The beginning of a whole new life.. it get good pretty quick.
Good things about being off drugs/getting sober

Congratulations on making the scary descion to clean up.. it really is so worth it and you can do this

 

['medicine cabinet']

well the worst of the physical is behind you it seems, the subs make a world of difference, so does the alprazolam. in the coming week or so just try to stay busy, stay hydrated, make sure you are eating as much as you can, and you will feel better every day that passes. one thing i found that worked well for me (the times i have kicked) is to force myself to exert my nonexistent energy so that at night i was so tired i could actually sleep a little. getting a good nights rest is so vital. its probable you are going to have wacky dreams that will poss border on nightmares. dreams of <trying to purchase>, waiting, finally getting it and as soon as you are about to <use> you wake up lol. its worse than blue balls. i had times where i would feel so sick in the dream, <find my doc> only to wake up as soon as i <was about to use> i think i cried about it a few times lol

EDIT:Good post, just cleaned that up as It triggered me a bit.. Please be extra careful about the possible triggers MC as everyone trigger differently.

 

[Cancerdead]

I would say you will have to start all over again don't be discouraged you though. You made it 100 hours and that's an achievement it's self. You can do this, if I can make it...what? I think it's day 50? I don't remember, you can make it too. You just have to want it bad enough, you can't try to get clean for anyone else but yourself.

 

['medicine cabinet']

Ah, my bad, didnt realize it was SL, thought this was in OD or something.