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7-OH Tapering log

HotSockMcAlistair

HotSockMcAlistair

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Hey all,

I’m new on these forums but I’ve seen a lot of positive conversations about recovery and people trying to beat substance. So here’s my situation:


I’ve gotten way too deep into 7-OH and I’ve decided I have to try to taper down and get off it. It’s gotten too expensive and affects my mood and ability to function properly at times. I’ve beaten a few other substances, including benzos and alcohol, but 7-OH absolutely has its claws in me. I started with powder, kratom shots and the like. But obviously 7-OH is way stronger and my addiction brain took off running with it. I’m planning the following taper schedule with a few extra tabs on hand to beat back withdrawals if they come about. Any advice or ideas on the topic would be greatly appreciated, and I’m trying to update daily.

My main questions: is two days long enough for each dose reduction? What supplements or crutches that aren’t narcs will help keep me on track? Has anyone beaten this stuff, and how long did it take?

Doses shift every two days:

300mg
270mg
240mg
210mg
180mg
150mg
120mg
90mg
60mg
30mg
15mg
10mg
5mg
Nothing
 
I used suboxone for 7 days. 8/2mg after day 3 it wasn't much at all..

Download Quick MD app. They have an addiction treatment visit for $99 and they will prescribe suboxone for 7 days to get you through the worst of it. Then your follow up (after 7 days) they will give you a 30 day script..

Good luck
 
Bad Tripp said:
I used suboxone for 7 days. 8/2mg after day 3 it wasn't much at all..

Download Quick MD app. They have an addiction treatment visit for $99 and they will prescribe suboxone for 7 days to get you through the worst of it. Then your follow up (after 7 days) they will give you a 30 day script..

Good luck
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Really? Damn you were feeling better after three days? I appreciate the tip man I might have to give that a shot. Were you tapering the 7OH while you were taking the suboxone? I’d love to hear more about what all you did and how if you have time, thank you!
 
I’m just waiting for all my support vitamins and supplements to be delivered so I can start with the best odds of kicking 7OH for good. Today I’ve realized I’m going to have to start at 360mg daily, it appears I’ve underestimated how deep I’ve gotten. Below is a list of what I have on the way. I should be starting december 4th or 5th. I’ll try to reduce my daily dose a little in the mean time.

I’m going to try to update daily, partially for accountability and then for a record. Kind of like a diary. How I’m feeling, what’s working, what my biggest struggles are, how often I exercise, etc. still haven’t decided if I’m getting a thc vape, but I’ll post if I do. Here’s hoping 🤞🏽

Vitamin C
Vitamin D
5-HTP
B Vitamin complex
L-Theanine
L-Tyrosine
Ashwagandha
Magnesium Glycinate
GABA
DLPA (DL-Phenylalanine)
Multivitamin
Vitamineral Green (greens/phytonutrient supp)
 
HotSockMcAlistair said:
Really? Damn you were feeling better after three days? I appreciate the tip man I might have to give that a shot. Were you tapering the 7OH while you were taking the suboxone? I’d love to hear more about what all you did and how if you have time, thank you!
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Yeah, it's not like oxys or hydros. No, I waited until the last 7OH tab wore off and I started to jones a bit and then I took 2 - 8mg/2mg Suboxone and then 1 every 6-8hrs after that.

I used 0.1mg Clonidine for my heart rate and BP and it helped with the sweats too.. Gabapentin 400mg 3x a day, L-Theanine 400mg as needed. No stims. Because of the Buprenorphine, I didn't have to worry about diarrhea. First 2 days suck, but it's bareable. After day 3 and on you'll get to feeling better. Skin won't feel clammy or like ants are crawling on you..

My daily dose never went over 450mg a day of 7OH. So, it's kind of the sweet spot. Anything higher than that and it maybe a little more uncomfortable..

Hope this helps y'all..
 
Welp here we go on day 1. Shooting for 300mg 7OH and two 115mg MIT space dust caps. Started with 40mg 7OH and a space dust cap at 530 this morning to get my ass out of bed. I feel surprisingly alert since I usually start the day with 90mg 7OH and am redosing by 0745. I’ll update tonight
 
Finished the day at 280mg 7OH and 3x 115mg space dust capsules. Substantially less than I’ve normally been taking. I took one more space dust than I was hoping for, but came in under the 7OH target. I felt better than I was expecting by a long shot. But the 7OH definitely pulls me to re dose way more than I need to. I think I’m calling day one a success?
 
You lowered it quite a bit, that seems good for day #1 to me. Congratulations!
What's in the space dust anyhow? Just MIT, supposedly? Just got to make sure you don't overcompensate by relying on it too much. Mitragynine converts to 7 oh to a certain extent, right? So it's kind of like taking 7oh. But I've never done those extracts so I can't really comment. Maybe someone else can?
 
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chippermonk said:
You lowered it quite a bit, that seems good for day #1 to me. Congratulations!
What's in the space dust anyhow? Just MIT, supposedly? Just got to make sure you don't overcompensate by relying on it too much. Mitragynine converts to 7 oh to a certain extent, right? So it's kind of like taking 7oh. But I've never done those extracts so I can't really comment. Maybe someone else can?
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yeah space dust is just a kratom concentrate, pure MIT at 115mg per cap. To an extent it is one and the same, though MIT seems to be more laid back and lasts longer than 7OH. I didn’t really get the “high” feeling today, which tells me I reduced overall intake. Another guy on here actually recommended splicing MIT in to reduce 7OH, and I’m hopeful so far. I’ll have a better handle on where I’m at in a few more days. Honestly I don’t think I needed to pop the last space dust cap today. Old habits die hard
 
Good luck with your taper! How's it going?

I think it's incredibly difficult to successfully taper with such a short acting drug like 7-OH, but it could make the withdrawal A little more manageable for sure. For me it's mostly an intense psychological craving primarily, and it's very easy for me to get sidetracked and just say "fuck it, whatever I'm just taking some", because I had a difficult day at work or I'm frustrated or whatever. For me, if I don't just quit cold turkey and stop having it around me, I never actually get around to stopping use. It's kind of like that with any drug, but yeah 7oh particularly so.

But I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I just need to quit because I've wasted so much money on it, and I hate waking up sick every day or feeling shitty a lot of the time. While I do enjoy the effects of it greatly, and it helps me greatly with pain, the cognitive and physical highs and lows of it are as difficult as heroin was for me really.

I think I finally gathered the willpower to stop taking it and just maintaining with regular kratom and black seed oil. I had my last dose of it yesterday morning, and while I don't feel great, it's manageable if I just take a larger dose of standard kratom. My daily dose was closer to like, 150-200 mg though.

Ymmv, but I've always found that stopping a drug successfully was more a matter of finally rationalizing it in my mind fully that I can't do it any more for one reason or another, and I've never had much success with super lengthy tapers. For me it's better to just do a rapid taper to minimize withdrawal and jump off. I can't find any value in taking something like that at 5mg or something, by that point I might as well just stop, I'm going to have to go through withdrawal anyway and there's no way around it really.

Whatever works for you though, good luck!
 
deficiT said:
Good luck with your taper! How's it going?

I think it's incredibly difficult to successfully taper with such a short acting drug like 7-OH, but it could make the withdrawal A little more manageable for sure. For me it's mostly an intense psychological craving primarily, and it's very easy for me to get sidetracked and just say "fuck it, whatever I'm just taking some", because I had a difficult day at work or I'm frustrated or whatever. For me, if I don't just quit cold turkey and stop having it around me, I never actually get around to stopping use. It's kind of like that with any drug, but yeah 7oh particularly so.

But I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I just need to quit because I've wasted so much money on it, and I hate waking up sick every day or feeling shitty a lot of the time. While I do enjoy the effects of it greatly, and it helps me greatly with pain, the cognitive and physical highs and lows of it are as difficult as heroin was for me really.

I think I finally gathered the willpower to stop taking it and just maintaining with regular kratom and black seed oil. I had my last dose of it yesterday morning, and while I don't feel great, it's manageable if I just take a larger dose of standard kratom. My daily dose was closer to like, 150-200 mg though.

Ymmv, but I've always found that stopping a drug successfully was more a matter of finally rationalizing it in my mind fully that I can't do it any more for one reason or another, and I've never had much success with super lengthy tapers. For me it's better to just do a rapid taper to minimize withdrawal and jump off. I can't find any value in taking something like that at 5mg or something, by that point I might as well just stop, I'm going to have to go through withdrawal anyway and there's no way around it really.

Whatever works for you though, good luck!
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Yeah man I’m kinda flying blind, I’ve never been a structured type when it comes to drug use. If you can quit heroin you are an absolute machine, that’s all I have to say. Good for you man!!!

I hear you. These 7OH tabs have cost me SO MUCH money it’s shameful, like I can’t believe it when I consider the total sum spent. Especially when I think of how often I’ve felt like garbage from it. I found a place to order actual 7OH powder and cut the cost of my 7OH by maybe 40%, but I’ve only found it in time to taper off.

You have a point about the length of the taper. I’m considering getting my dosage lower, somewhere under 90mg/day and just jumping to only MIT, then make a plan to cut out MIT to going true straight edge. Having no experience in tapers I’m definitely having to play it by ear. I just can’t justify buying and using this stuff anymore, so I’m considering all the advice I’ve gotten here. I am just hoping I don’t have to end up seeking out the support meds requiring prescriptions. I hate trying to get stuff from the VA.

I feel the exact same pull you’re talking about. I’ll be telling myself I’m feeling fine and don’t need to dose 7OH because I’m not actually jonesing, but all I want to do is pop another 60mg under my tongue. Buuuuut I suppose that’s how we get ourselves into these situations to begin with.

Im on the morning of day two I’m feeling fine, so far I’ve had just under 100mg of 7OH and have not taken any space dust/MIT. I’ve got three days off work after today so I’m considering jumping my dose down to 150-175mg and just suffering since I don’t have to work. Thanks for the encouragement man!
 
End of day two. Finished at 280mg of 7OH, one capsule of space dust, and one focus and flow shot (37.5 MIT and some kava). Kinda mad at myself for buying the shot, but still a small reduction from yesterday and at least 30-40% less 7OH than normal. It’s just ridiculous how much I want to dose even when I’m not having withdrawal symptoms.

So I didn’t mention earlier, most of the 7OH I have is in powder form. I have a few varieties, some of which are full spectrum with minor alkaloids. Found out last night those are not for nighttime doses. So I’m gonna try using those more energizing ones for my wake up hit and early afternoon. So far so good I suppose, we will see what tomorrow holds
 
Day 3 down. 275mg 7OH and 1 space dust capsule. Didn’t have to work today so I had a lot of free time to keep busy. I’m developing a kind of anxious energy, but no real withdrawal symptoms yet. I might shoot for another reduction by Sunday. I want to take more all day but so far it’s all been a matter of will power.
 
Start of day 4. I’m definitely sleeping like ass. I wonder if it’s because I’ve been taking my last dose around 5pm and going to bed around 930? I tried melatonin and flexiril for sleep, and I slept good for about 6 hours, which maybe that’s just all I’ll get during this taper.
 
screwed the pooch on day 4 with 390mg of 7OH and 2 space dust. No reason I just dosed too often. I wasn’t even busy. This shit has claws.

Day 5 I finished at 320mg of 7OH, 1 space dust, and a feel free shot (35mg MIT). It’s a little disheartening slipping so early in the process but I’ve got to stay after it. I find my problem being the morning. Taking too much to get going and then eating up my allotment my the afternoon. I’ve got to accept that I’ll be uncomfortable for a while.
 
How's this been going man?

Yeah, it's definitely tough to stick with a taper with this one.

My attempted cutback/diet only lasted like 48 hours. But I went that amount of time without taking any 7-OH, which was a good start, but then the pain caught back up to me in a major way and I just couldn't carry on with it.

It's definitely going to take me a while to figure this one out. I also would like to avoid taking Suboxone or something again to get away from it, but that may end up being what I have to do.
 
deficiT said:
How's this been going man?

Yeah, it's definitely tough to stick with a taper with this one.

My attempted cutback/diet only lasted like 48 hours. But I went that amount of time without taking any 7-OH, which was a good start, but then the pain caught back up to me in a major way and I just couldn't carry on with it.

It's definitely going to take me a while to figure this one out. I also would like to avoid taking Suboxone or something again to get away from it, but that may end up being what I have to do.
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I slipped back pretty bad dude. Yester
deficiT said:
How's this been going man?

Yeah, it's definitely tough to stick with a taper with this one.

My attempted cutback/diet only lasted like 48 hours. But I went that amount of time without taking any 7-OH, which was a good start, but then the pain caught back up to me in a major way and I just couldn't carry on with it.

It's definitely going to take me a while to figure this one out. I also would like to avoid taking Suboxone or something again to get away from it, but that may end up being what I have to do.
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It’s been rough dude. Had a few good days and then blasted heavy dosage through some busy work days. I’m basically having to start over at this point. Today is technically day 9, but yesterday I probably hit 500mg of 7OH. Soooo it’s a little disheartening but I’m not giving up.

I hear you on the pain aspect. I’ve got my L3-L5 vertebrae mangled from an IED hit in Iraq and it’s a steady pain stream, the 7OH helps a lot. If you figure out an alternative to relieve your pain I’m definitely interested in hearing about it!

So today I’m sitting at 158mg of 7OH and 1 space dust capsule on board. I’m just trying to keep it below 300mg and start tapering harder tomorrow. Keep in touch on you stuff buddy, we will get there!
 
I'm just going to say that one unavoidable problem with opioids of any sort, including 7 oh, is that it fucks up your body's natural ability to fight pain. Disregulates those MU receptors or whatever. Seems to me really fucking hard to get past that upswing in pain when you taper if your body itself doesn't produce pain relief itself, and I don't think the natural receptors come back for a good while so long as you use any opioids at any level, so you have to have a game plan for that taper pain that does not involve opioids.
Granted, natural body pain killing ability doesn't do much for mangled disks or ankles and I don't know what the answer is. Feeling pain on top of the depression of quitting is tough as hell. Anyhow, I'm just stating the obvious. Good luck!
PS and thanks for keeping us posted
 
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