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Kratom 7-OH Federally Schedule 1 as of 08-01-26

crazyotter87 said:
Now I'm wondering when 5-MAPB and 4-HO-MET tablets will be banned as well.
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Have you listened to the hamilton podcast with the guy (i get forget his name at the moment) who is the MAIN person responsible for pushing of those products on the shelves. He does it openly, saying DEA is impotent to stop him. We love him because he will go down first. And yeah 3 years... is somewhat quick in terms of NPS detected, popularized and banned.
4-aco-dmt been around for pshh. 15 years easy and it's still legal.
 
All the sources are selling it incredibly cheap. Buy 1 get 3 free. I know this stuff is dangerous....when I take it I take only 3-5 mgs. But it is incredibly cheap right now.

Just tried to buy some 7OH and apparently it is now banned in Texas. I have a bunch of it, probably enough to last several years.
 
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Psynaught said:
All the sources are selling it incredibly cheap. Buy 1 get 3 free. I know this stuff is dangerous....when I take it I take only 3-5 mgs. But it is incredibly cheap right now.

Just tried to buy some 7OH and apparently it is now banned in Texas. I have a bunch of it, probably enough to last several years.
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It willl get cheaper by the day as ppl who bought it will try and get rid rid of itlf it dirt cheap.
 
Didgital said:
It willl get cheaper by the day as ppl who bought it will try and get rid rid of itlf it dirt cheap.
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Yeah it was buy 1 get 3 free, but when I tried to check out it said "banned in Texas." I can understand why they banned it. Kratom should stay legal.
 
I once bought some online about a year ago from some 7oh company. For the past month I've been getting. 3 or 4 emails a day from them to buy more, at huge discounts. It's annoying and I told them to take me off their list because I'm not buying any but they never do.
But if I really did have a jones for it, it would be pretty hard to ignore being reminded multiple times a day
 
I was buying knowing that it would eventually be outlawed. I will use maybe 20 mgs/week. The only problem is the shelf life on the tabs is listed at 2 years.
 
Psynaught said:
I was buying knowing that it would eventually be outlawed. I will use maybe 20 mgs/week. The only problem is the shelf life on the tabs is listed at 2 years.
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I think manufactures have to say something like that. I've had kratom sitting in 100f connexes for well over a year and I was still able to extract it successfully. The 7 is more unstable than regular MIT, but it's the most unstable when its hot and in acidic solution. I imagine you keep it away from air, and you keep it cold, it will last a long time.
 
Didgital said:
Have you listened to the hamilton podcast with the guy (i get forget his name at the moment) who is the MAIN person responsible for pushing of those products on the shelves. He does it openly, saying DEA is impotent to stop him. We love him because he will go down first. And yeah 3 years... is somewhat quick in terms of NPS detected, popularized and banned.
4-aco-dmt been around for pshh. 15 years easy and it's still legal.
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Is that a recent episode or patreon only? I don't recall this podcast
 
Jung and Stoopid said:
Is that a recent episode or patreon only? I don't recall this podcast
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If I am remembering correctly. The interviewee is Judd Weiss.

I've also semi uncovered a very serious ongoing event related to the 7-OH. I started looking into Buzzers, the company thats buying up all the 7. I first thought they were buying it to resell on black market or maybe some other country where 7 isn't going to be banned.

THEN, i remembered a few weeks ago, someone had mentioned to me about some unknown company that was selling a brand new product being marketed as 7-OH alternative which is based on a extract of Uncaria tormentosa aka Cat's Claw. Cat's claw and kratom have overlapping alkaloid profiles, meaning you'll see some of the same alkaloids in both plants.. but also alkaloids unique to each species.

Ok I was thinking that they were buying the 7 to sell illegally... (could be..) but actually what is happening is they are using the 7-OH to convert it into an entirely novel semi-synthetic alkaloid that shares the same geometry with cat's claw alkaloids such as Rhynchophylline, but it still has the ability to interact with the mu Opioid receptor so it likely shares the same stereochemistry

I'm getting reports of people going through withdrawal from taking this "cat claw" product after only a few days of usage which does NOT happen with cat's claw. Ok so someone with enough loot spent quite a bit to get the product thoroughly chemically analyzed. They see the same alkaloids that you would expect from cat's claw, but then are also seeing a new compound that has never been seen before and therefore the standard to compare it while doing typical chemical analysis doesn't exist yet.

DON'T BUY BUZZERS products. I know the owner by the way. He cold called me years ago when I was making 7 in my apartment on the pretense of hiring me, but he was just brain raping me. He's one of the folk I was reffering to when they are vultures that don't care about you. They only care about your money.
 
Just got pulled from the shelves where I lived --- been telling the elderly who arent prescribed opioids this was coming for months. Luckily they are not dependent but idk what their move is now.

Talkin bout ordering it online -- nah nah nah you gunna get busted if theres a ban or w/e..... than again some old ppl better with computers than me.

(Oh shit that ex heroin addict, roadkill eating, epstein associating, braimworm having monster got it sched 1'd. Fuckin regime) I heard one of his ex wives (one of figures) killed themselves after he left her out in the cold....and he basically laughed about it. That is unverified but id love to hear if it was true or not.....sorry derailing a bit -- dont answer that without a 7 oh related comment?

I only mention ex heroin addict because he knows damn well this is not "Gas station heroin" --- that would actually be way better for everyone that did they research
 
Allylbenzene said:
Doesn't this just mean that said psychoactives will move to the illicit market... yikes. Well no surprise I guess.


?(!) This claim seems off-base tbf.
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No that claim is accurate. I would also bet in about 6 months the cost of it will be through the roof as well. I have been tellin ppl here and anywhere they interested to stock up as such will happen inevitably. Is the cycle of a good RC - by the time it hits headshops it is on borrowed time.

Rule of thumb that held true for the last 30 yrs

Kratom is still legal though right -- im not gunna talk synth but it isn't that long of way from point kratom to point 7 oh, am I mistaken? May keep the price low on second thought.....certainly not AS low however
 
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