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7-Hydroxymitragynine

rickolasnice

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Apart from it being the main active alkaloid in Kratom..

Any info on it?

Is it legal in the UK?

Dose? Dangers? Etc..
 
know it's been available for quite some time, there was some initial excitement but nothing recently...

...can only presume it is a bit of a let down
 
Supposedly it is a stronger mu agonist than morphine. Every report I've heard says the high is missing something when compared to a morphinan based agonist. It also seems really expensive compared to illegal opiates. If the price would drop I would be interested in trying it.
 
well, in my unique case whenever I take Kratom I really enjoy it, and find it rivals most other opiates I take, ( low level codiene, tramadol type) so I could see 7 hydroxy being worthwhile G
 
I'm not sure. Kratom has 25 alkaloids in it and the effect comes from the mix. In fact kratom extracts are alyas missing something, so I can imagine a single alkaloid missing quite a lot. I think it's strong stuff but not very recreational.
 
kratom alkaloids are an odd one.

Tried kratom resin first time completely ZONKED me out in a very unpleasant nausea inducing manner (nothing like traditional opioids or tramadol or anything). Tried again with same product, no effect (less though). Purchased same product later stage form same vendour no effect, purchased some supposedly super potent product no effect. Tried the uber potent overhyper brand that came out no effect.

Assume there are legit kratom brands out there but seeing as mitragynine and 7-hydroxy have been available pure (also various acetoxys or varients etc) for a long time can't help feeling they are a major let down. Something is odd about their activity.
 
A while back I ordered and received a small bottle of liquid "kratom alkaloids". The name 7-Hydroxymitragynine was listed. It was pretty amazing, but the cost was ridiulous. When I asked the vendor why it was so much, he said it's not the process (which is quite easy), just that he needs almost a warehouse load of kratom for every small bottle!! - kratom isn't cheap, and nor is the storage space for enough kratom to synth 1L of alkaloids!!
 
^oh yeah forgot to mention the price! good point, interesting the pure stuff was worth it though
 
IMHO kratom in very unique and common rules don't apply here, such as more is usually less with kratom, and less is more, the opposite of regular stuff.
Also the strong extracts are almost always inferior to the plain leaf, which is also odd. The overall strongest (but not necessarl best) results come from mixing extracts with plain leaf, as the extracts are often not working alone. Its just as some people's brain is not able to recognize some alkaloids alone but when they are with other alkaloids they all work.
Anyone interested in kratom should start from plain leaf, forget about getting the strong stuff, or having fun the first time, etc. Kratom is not easy, but if you give it time and respect it can be awesome.
 
i have long wondered why kratom does not cause any respiratory depression. pretty much every other mu agonist i can think of causes this. any ideas?
 
Doesn't kratom have an adrenergic effect that increases the respiratory rate and heart rate?
 
I have sampled this one more than once, and apart from its insane price tag is it pretty damn good. The problem is that it still doesn't have that "wow" factor that harder opiates do. On the plus side it produces a sense of well being that feels more natural than opiates. Still not worth the price tag.
 
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