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Interesting experience today
So, I lapsed into old behavior and I started using 7oh again. I’ve mostly been spared the effects of any type of withdrawal at this point in the lapse experience but today an interesting thing happened.
Today I purchased and consumed 7oh. I bought a different product than I’d typically been buying. I had been buying the blue beasts
getsevn.co
But today I bought this ten count bottle of the same active ingredient as the blue beasts.
getsevn.co
Well, after taking my dose of 70mg, I felt the familiar rush of euphoria, and then almost simultaneously, I felt myself become distinctly “sick” while I was experiencing the familiar effect of the drug.
Now this was odd. Extremely odd. I drove to get gasoline and by the time I was at the gas station the feeling had distinguished itself as definitely opiate sickness. I had figured because it was the same company and manufacturer as the blue beasts that any slight variations in potency or in chemical composition would be avoided. But here I was experiencing the high of the drug while also being completely and totally sick. It reminded me a lot of precipitated withdrawal although because I’m not currently dependent it was a lot more like being just regular sick but with the caveat of immediate onset. So precipitated withdrawal without the extremity of experience.
I started sweating bullets and was just really very suddenly very sick. I thought hmmm. That’s really fucking weird. So I decided to run a little experiment and go back and buy the blue beasts and see if that changed my experience somewhat. So I go back for the blue beasts and I buy three of the tablets and I take a single quarter of one tablet. Normally I take two of those tablets for 80mg. But I just wanted to see if the withdrawals were attenuated because normal seven didn’t seem to attenuate the withdrawal at all. I took the quarter tablet and sure enough, the feeling of being sick started to back off and I began to experience just the expected effect of the drug.
Now this is weird. It’s weird for a few reasons.
One: it’s been two days since I last used 7 and I wasn’t sick at that point nor have I been sick at all since this first week of foraying back into the world of opiates. I’ve been using only in two dose days and only two times this week.
Two: even without having gotten sick since beginning this foray. I have no physical dependency to get sick from. It’s been 8 months since I used opiates, and kindling aside, the only thing I can think of as being remotely plausible is that I didn’t take a full eighty mg dose. The thing is, I’m not dependent on 80mg doses. I’ve only taken one 80mg dose the entirety of this foray. Most of the time I was taking 40mg doses with a 20mg booster dose later in the evening.
3: it’s possible that I took too much. It’s also possible that I took a normal amount without having eaten.
4: I missed my mood stabilizer and antipsychotic last night which could have made me more vulnerable to the effect of the drug or perhaps made the experience more pronounced.
5: my mood stabilizer is known to dampen the effects of psycho active drugs so it’s possible that missing it would have made the experience more euphoric or more pleasurable.
But this was not a more euphoric or more pleasurable experience. I quite literally felt much more sick and much more unpleasant.
By the time of this post the 10mg blue beast dose administered has taken effect and interestingly enough, the sick feeling has gone away, as well as the sweating bullets, and the dysphoria of this experience has largely gone away.
I’m left feeling kind of run ragged and like I’d really like to take my antipsychotic and my mood stabilizer and just call it a night and go to sleep. But we’re barely approaching 8pm and I’m not ready to go to sleep yet.
Anyways, I wouldn’t say this post is intended to warn people off of the blue beasts or the red rush or to warn people off of drugs anyway.
I think this posts intent is to say that
1: maybe missing a dose of my mood stabilizer led my drug to behave in an interesting way that approached; taking the drug causing me to experience symptoms similar to being sick from the same drug
2: possible adulteration of the product “blue beasts” with some type of full agonist leading to dosing regular 7oh in the form of the “red rush” causing a precipitated withdrawal event
2 counterpoint: if this were true, that adulteration with a full agonist were the cause and 7oh action as a partial agonist caused a pw event, then some blockading of the receptor would be expected and I would likely need more than 10mg to breakthrough that blockade and alleviate the precipitated withdrawal event
3: if adulteration of the “red rush” were the cause then I imagine that I would not have experienced the very typical 7oh profile of effects. The euphoria from 7oh is very very pronounced and unlike any type of other drug I have ever taken.
4: if adulteration of the “blue beasts” were the cause then I would have expected for myself to be experiencing some type of sickness prior to having taken the red rush. Also, previous experiences with the “blue beasts” would not have an identical effect profile to the “red rush.”
Therefore, I think the most likely explanation for my adverse experience would be having missed my dose of antipsychotic and mood stabilizer having destabilized my system such that an adverse reaction to the drug would be most easily explained.
Though that likely explanation would better describe experiencing more pronounced euphoria or a stronger effect of the drug, and not what I experienced, which was a precipitated withdrawal event, with no drug dependency as I have not yet experienced or developed a dependency in this current foray, nor was I in withdrawal at approximately 48 hours since my last dose. Opiate withdrawal does not set in at hour forty eight.
So I have no fucking clue what happened and I would love for the great minds of blue light to come together and apply their knowledge onto this problem with this imperfect data set.
Because my best thinking is telling me that the blue beasts must be adulterated with a full agonist, to which I am not yet dependent, and that the red rush, as 7oh is a partial agonist, caused a precipitated withdrawal event from the blue beasts, which are adulterated with a full agonist.
But as I have posted, I have the CoA and I confirmed the lot numbers, a these products are tested as only containing 7oh.
I really think the best explanation for these adverse events is the fact that my mood stabilizer, lamotrigine, was not taken last night, and without having taken it, the drug effected me in a strange way, that strange way being withdrawal from the drug, being brought on by taking the self same drug.
Any and all input would be greatly appreciated and I hope the links work for all.
I’m going to take my mood stabilizer right the fuck now though because it’s not unsafe for me to take during the day, and I’m going to look forward with much pleasure towards taking my antipsychotic tonight, and I will with great pleasure, deal with whatever sickness may come, and get back on my not using opiates kick, as I really do not like this level of instability or chaos in my life even though the experience as a whole has for the most part been not that bad.
0/10 would not recommend
Take your meds my dudes
So, I lapsed into old behavior and I started using 7oh again. I’ve mostly been spared the effects of any type of withdrawal at this point in the lapse experience but today an interesting thing happened.
Today I purchased and consumed 7oh. I bought a different product than I’d typically been buying. I had been buying the blue beasts
40MG Tablets – BLUE BEASTS – Sevn^
getsevn.co
But today I bought this ten count bottle of the same active ingredient as the blue beasts.
35MG Tablets – RED RUSH – Sevn^
getsevn.co
Well, after taking my dose of 70mg, I felt the familiar rush of euphoria, and then almost simultaneously, I felt myself become distinctly “sick” while I was experiencing the familiar effect of the drug.
Now this was odd. Extremely odd. I drove to get gasoline and by the time I was at the gas station the feeling had distinguished itself as definitely opiate sickness. I had figured because it was the same company and manufacturer as the blue beasts that any slight variations in potency or in chemical composition would be avoided. But here I was experiencing the high of the drug while also being completely and totally sick. It reminded me a lot of precipitated withdrawal although because I’m not currently dependent it was a lot more like being just regular sick but with the caveat of immediate onset. So precipitated withdrawal without the extremity of experience.
I started sweating bullets and was just really very suddenly very sick. I thought hmmm. That’s really fucking weird. So I decided to run a little experiment and go back and buy the blue beasts and see if that changed my experience somewhat. So I go back for the blue beasts and I buy three of the tablets and I take a single quarter of one tablet. Normally I take two of those tablets for 80mg. But I just wanted to see if the withdrawals were attenuated because normal seven didn’t seem to attenuate the withdrawal at all. I took the quarter tablet and sure enough, the feeling of being sick started to back off and I began to experience just the expected effect of the drug.
Now this is weird. It’s weird for a few reasons.
One: it’s been two days since I last used 7 and I wasn’t sick at that point nor have I been sick at all since this first week of foraying back into the world of opiates. I’ve been using only in two dose days and only two times this week.
Two: even without having gotten sick since beginning this foray. I have no physical dependency to get sick from. It’s been 8 months since I used opiates, and kindling aside, the only thing I can think of as being remotely plausible is that I didn’t take a full eighty mg dose. The thing is, I’m not dependent on 80mg doses. I’ve only taken one 80mg dose the entirety of this foray. Most of the time I was taking 40mg doses with a 20mg booster dose later in the evening.
3: it’s possible that I took too much. It’s also possible that I took a normal amount without having eaten.
4: I missed my mood stabilizer and antipsychotic last night which could have made me more vulnerable to the effect of the drug or perhaps made the experience more pronounced.
5: my mood stabilizer is known to dampen the effects of psycho active drugs so it’s possible that missing it would have made the experience more euphoric or more pleasurable.
But this was not a more euphoric or more pleasurable experience. I quite literally felt much more sick and much more unpleasant.
By the time of this post the 10mg blue beast dose administered has taken effect and interestingly enough, the sick feeling has gone away, as well as the sweating bullets, and the dysphoria of this experience has largely gone away.
I’m left feeling kind of run ragged and like I’d really like to take my antipsychotic and my mood stabilizer and just call it a night and go to sleep. But we’re barely approaching 8pm and I’m not ready to go to sleep yet.
Anyways, I wouldn’t say this post is intended to warn people off of the blue beasts or the red rush or to warn people off of drugs anyway.
I think this posts intent is to say that
1: maybe missing a dose of my mood stabilizer led my drug to behave in an interesting way that approached; taking the drug causing me to experience symptoms similar to being sick from the same drug
2: possible adulteration of the product “blue beasts” with some type of full agonist leading to dosing regular 7oh in the form of the “red rush” causing a precipitated withdrawal event
2 counterpoint: if this were true, that adulteration with a full agonist were the cause and 7oh action as a partial agonist caused a pw event, then some blockading of the receptor would be expected and I would likely need more than 10mg to breakthrough that blockade and alleviate the precipitated withdrawal event
3: if adulteration of the “red rush” were the cause then I imagine that I would not have experienced the very typical 7oh profile of effects. The euphoria from 7oh is very very pronounced and unlike any type of other drug I have ever taken.
4: if adulteration of the “blue beasts” were the cause then I would have expected for myself to be experiencing some type of sickness prior to having taken the red rush. Also, previous experiences with the “blue beasts” would not have an identical effect profile to the “red rush.”
Therefore, I think the most likely explanation for my adverse experience would be having missed my dose of antipsychotic and mood stabilizer having destabilized my system such that an adverse reaction to the drug would be most easily explained.
Though that likely explanation would better describe experiencing more pronounced euphoria or a stronger effect of the drug, and not what I experienced, which was a precipitated withdrawal event, with no drug dependency as I have not yet experienced or developed a dependency in this current foray, nor was I in withdrawal at approximately 48 hours since my last dose. Opiate withdrawal does not set in at hour forty eight.
So I have no fucking clue what happened and I would love for the great minds of blue light to come together and apply their knowledge onto this problem with this imperfect data set.
Because my best thinking is telling me that the blue beasts must be adulterated with a full agonist, to which I am not yet dependent, and that the red rush, as 7oh is a partial agonist, caused a precipitated withdrawal event from the blue beasts, which are adulterated with a full agonist.
But as I have posted, I have the CoA and I confirmed the lot numbers, a these products are tested as only containing 7oh.
I really think the best explanation for these adverse events is the fact that my mood stabilizer, lamotrigine, was not taken last night, and without having taken it, the drug effected me in a strange way, that strange way being withdrawal from the drug, being brought on by taking the self same drug.
Any and all input would be greatly appreciated and I hope the links work for all.
I’m going to take my mood stabilizer right the fuck now though because it’s not unsafe for me to take during the day, and I’m going to look forward with much pleasure towards taking my antipsychotic tonight, and I will with great pleasure, deal with whatever sickness may come, and get back on my not using opiates kick, as I really do not like this level of instability or chaos in my life even though the experience as a whole has for the most part been not that bad.
0/10 would not recommend
Take your meds my dudes
