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690mg caffeine, 3 black and milds, 10mg klonopin

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please00

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I will first be taking 3 230mg (690mg caffeine) rockstars all at the same time, then smoking 3 black and milds. This usually gets my heart pumping pretty fast. I will probably be taking 10mg klonopin before I drink the energy drinks. Usually, klonopin has absolutely no effect on me. I've taken 6mg with no effect. One time I took 4mg and felt a slight drowsiness (this is why I will be taking 10). Will I still be feeling the klonopin with all the stimulants? Also, does klonopin help with lowering your heart rate? I weigh 185 pounds.
All the best, and thank you.
 
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Why are you taking so much caffeine? Also, 3x230mg isn't 560 or 660mg caffeine, its 690mg of caffeine...I'm going to edit the title of this post to reflect the right dosage. I'd say one of those Rockstar drinks is more than enough with 230mg of caffeine....

Seriously, don't do this. That's almost 700mg of caffeine and a shitload of Klonopin. You'll just black out.

This also isn't appropriate for Drug Culture, I'm moving it over to Basic Drug Discussion
 
Thank you. I barely feel the caffeine when I take 460 mg and not because of tolerance. I have no tolerance for klonopin either. That's why I will be taking high doses.

How come I don't see my thread in the Other Drugs forum?
 
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Because I moved it to Basic Drug Discussion, the more appropriate place for a dosing question like yours.

And you don't have any tolerance to caffeine yet you need over 500mg to feel anything? Are you sure you don't have a tolerance?
 
Oh, once again thanks.

Yes I'm sure. I get an awareness feeling that's about it. After the caffeine wears off I feel a tiny bit manic which is okay. But it's still odd that I have such a tolerance for substances (at high doses) I have no tolerance with.
 
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Yes I smoke.

NeighborhoodThreat said:
What experiences do you have with caffeine and/or other stimulants?
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Caffeine makes me slightly buzzed with a general feeling of heightened awareness. Tobacco makes me slightly buzzed. I'd say caffeine effects me 3/10 and tabacco 2/10.
 
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Neither of those drugs are going to give you a real "buzz" if you ask me. You're chasing a non-existent high.

Also, please stop double posting. If you want to add something to your posts, click EDIT and edit the post.
 
^This.

Caffeine is just a bunch of peripheral stimulant effects, no euphoria. It provides an altered state, that is sure, but I would not call it pleasant. Add a heavy dose of nicotine along with 10mg clonazepam and all I predict is a nauseated, twitchy individual with anterograde amnesia.

Yes, you will be feeling the clonazepam after the stimulants. Shitty as they are, they may just give you the pep to get up and do something you would regret...I would avoid, to be honest.
 
Clonazepam, especially in such high amounts, decreases adrenal stimulation (in turn your heart rate) rendering small amounts of caffeine absolutely useless. This means that no matter how large a concoction of light stimulants you take, they will be ineffective.

Instead of taking such ridiculous amounts of benzodiazepine, caffeine, and cigarettes - lower your clonazepam dosage and allow yourself to achieve the stimulation you seek, with much smaller amounts.
 
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There is absolutely no upside to taking absurd amounts of drugs that do not affect you or get you high. The only thing you are doing to yourself is increasing your chances of experiencing bad side effects, blacking out, or otherwise hurting yourself. You get it? This is pointless and harmful.
 
as far as im aware,

Caffeine , and Nicotine being stimulants work directly against Benzo drugs,

I know they work against valium, i know this from personal experience too, as i used to try and get the most out of my 10mg valiums i could, avoiding tea intake etc. i think they will just get counteracted.
 
Benzodiazepines can halt the effects of much more powerful stimulants, or the most powerful being amphetamines, so if tobacco and/or caffeine were to contribute to less sedation in benzodiazepine users, it shouldn't be to significant proportions.

It was thought before that the reason tobacco smokers experience decreased effects from benzodiazepines was due to altered kinetics, specifically clearance. Studies however proved that alterations in serum benzodiazepine levels for alprazolam, diazepam, lorazepam, and midazolam in tobacco smokers were minute and therefore clinically irrelevant.

Caffeine on the other hand, has showed to dose-dependently antagonize some of benzodiazepines properties to noticeable degrees.

I think in the case of the OP however, where he's planning on, or has already ingested 10 milligrams of clonazepam, any amount of caffeine wouldn't be able to counter-balance the effects.
 
It's really not as bad as you guys are saying it is. I'm confident that 10mg kpins will just make drowsy and uncoordinated. Like I said, the caffeine gives me a buzz as do the cigarettes. Add 10mg kpins and it would make it stronger. I do what I do a bit entheogenically, so I don't do it just to get high. Thanks for all the responses though.

I will post a report to let you guys know how it goes. Probably around 10:30pm pacific standard time.
 
All that caffeine and smoking would have me vomiting.
That wouldn't be an ideal combo for me.
 
please00 said:
It's really not as bad as you guys are saying it is. I'm confident that 10mg kpins will just make drowsy and uncoordinated. Like I said, the caffeine gives me a buzz as do the cigarettes. Add 10mg kpins and it would make it stronger. I do what I do a bit entheogenically, so I don't do it just to get high. Thanks for all the responses though.

I will post a report to let you guys know how it goes. Probably around 10:30pm pacific standard time.
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Those who contributed aren't exactly saying it's bad, but rather questioning the merit of combining such huge amounts of depressants, with huge amounts of stimulants - both the former, and especially the latter having questionable euphoria - while contradicting each others effects to some degrees.
 
Since there's no real euphoria from any of those things, you're basically just combatting peripheral effects and playing a very strange game of 'tame the heart.'
 
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