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6-MAPB - a pipe dream ?

EncryptiC

EncryptiC

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6-APB has been around for a year at least now?

There are reports of MDMA type effects from 6-MAPB (N-Methylated version) - Are these genuine? Assume it's possible to N-Methylate the pure compound if someone has the knowledge (No synth talk I know) - which is probably how the few reports happened?

Either very bad compound, very hard to make or amazingly not occured yet. :?
 
n-methyl-6-apb is beginning to float around. Synthetic n-methylation is viable (and trivially simple). I have not heard of similar procedures having been performed on MDA though.*

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*to avoid synth discussion, no one should give information with much greater specificity than the above.
 
I know of a vendor that is bringing N-methyl-6-APDB to the market in a few weeks. While I doubt anyone knows for certain, N-methyl-6APDB would likely be quite similar to N-methyl-6-APB.
 
killermunchies said:
I know of a vendor that is bringing N-methyl-6-APDB to the market in a few weeks. While I doubt anyone knows for certain, N-methyl-6APDB would likely be quite similar to N-methyl-6-APB.
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Interesting and surprising....

Lots of discussion on this topic (with no conclusion) but I thought 6-APDB wasn't officially brought to market (excluding initial incorrect batches) because of a merkier legality (6-APDB can be viewed as a ring closed alkoxy subst, whilst 6-APB can only be viewed as a ring closed alkene-dioxy subst: PEA catch'all states 'alkoxy subst on the phenyl ring' - technically not either but depending on a legal chemists biased opinion 6-APDB could be better squeezed in to that definition)

I wonder which of the two compounds would share more similarity to MDMA: N-Methyl-6-APDB or N-Methyl-6-APB ? Maybe someone with geometry optimization skills can work out which is (shape wize) closer.

...I think I would be slightly surprised if either turned out to be VERY similar to MDMA, if this was the case it would probably already be the new 'mephedrone' in terms of popularity. I guess anything can happen with these things :\
 
EncryptiC said:
Interesting and surprising....

Lots of discussion on this topic (with no conclusion) but I thought 6-APDB wasn't officially brought to market (excluding initial incorrect batches) because of a merkier legality (6-APDB can be viewed as a ring closed alkoxy subst, whilst 6-APB can only be viewed as a ring closed alkene-dioxy subst: PEA catch'all states 'alkoxy subst on the phenyl ring' - technically not either but depending on a legal chemists biased opinion 6-APDB could be better squeezed in to that definition)

I wonder which of the two compounds would share more similarity to MDMA: N-Methyl-6-APDB or N-Methyl-6-APB ? Maybe someone with geometry optimization skills can work out which is (shape wize) closer.

...I think I would be slightly surprised if either turned out to be VERY similar to MDMA, if this was the case it would probably already be the new 'mephedrone' in terms of popularity. I guess anything can happen with these things :\
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I don't think 6-APDB was ever brought to the market, at least not in large amounts. However, the rumor is that when 6-APB first came out, they were trying to synth 6-APDB but came out with 6-APB instead. 6-APB turned out to be good and easier to make, so they just stuck with that.

Also, what country is that legislation from? For the most part, I'm only familiar with US laws, and I don't believe we have any clauses like that. Also, 6-APB originally came from the UK, where as the vendor coming out with N-methyl-6APDB is based in the US, so that might be why it's okay.

As far as it being like MDMA, I don't think anyone can definitively say for sure until they actually try the substance. People can weigh in with their educated opinions, but it's still kind of like predicting the weather. These substances are so novel that there is little scientific literature to work with. Also, even if it isn't just like MDMA, it doesn't mean that it will necessarily be worse. It could be different and superior, or it could bomb completely. We really have no way of knowing right now.
 
I also know of plans to bring this compound to the market. I have had the opportunity to sample it, it is an improvement on 6-apb.
It works when insufflated, and hits within five minutes, it does carry an unpleasant odour however. I think I prefer it to MDMA.
 
Because mephedrone is snortable, hits relatively fast, and smells funny?

I was surprised at the contrast in speed between 6-mapb and 6-apb, as an oral dose of 6-APB can take up to three hours to come up and is rather dysphoric to snort, whereas it's n-methylated chum was quite the opposite.

For some reason the 6-MAPB left a slightly faecal smell in the nostrils after insufflation.
 
IlostaMadge said:
Because mephedrone is snortable, hits relatively fast, and smells funny?

I was surprised at the contrast in speed between 6-mapb and 6-apb, as an oral dose of 6-APB can take up to three hours to come up and is rather dysphoric to snort, whereas it's n-methylated chum was quite the opposite.

For some reason the 6-MAPB left a slightly faecal smell in the nostrils after insufflation.
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Can you share more? Like, in what ways was it similar to MDMA and in what ways was it different? Also, how long did it last? And was it at all psychedelic?
 
^Experiences would be interesting indeed.

I suppose I left out economics as a possibility of why 6-MAPB hasn't arisen. Even if MDMA style effects occur there is no easy precursor (ala MDMA - no synth I know), 6-apb is expensive so methylating it probably reduces yield further. :\
 
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