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Various samples of beige to darker samples were sent to Europe to be analyzed after some serious health effects were being reported.

The sources will not be listed due to rules

2 samples came back as α-Pyrrolidinopropiophenone and the third came back as impure 4-MEC (had a harsher chemical smell than other samples).

I'm sure these were from Research chemical vendors from UK or wherever it is sold legally, and most likely originated from chinese labs that do not bother synthesizing them correctly or any type of safety checking as they sell it as a chemical to not consume.

Just thought some people might like to know why they are having massive panic attacks, I don't think many people have tried the real stuff.
 
I sampled some of the tan, TCP smelling 6-APB which was purchased from outside the UK but within the EU, I wouldnt touch anything from the UK as the vendors are notorious for selling fake RC's. Its 2 days since I took 150mgs and I feel a little sluggish but otherwise fine, a lot better than when Ive taken MDMA. And it was a VERY enjoyable experience.

I researched 6-APB for over 6 months before I decided to try some and I came to the conclusion that most do not have genuine 6-APB. I would be very interested to see if what I had was indeed 6-APB. phase dancer is it at all possible to get a small sample tested?

and thanks for the heads up RCsRDead, thats very worrying. Do you have any links to the tests that were done?

I was going to write a trip report but I think Ill give it a miss as I dont want people ordering from vendors that could be selling fake 6-APB. In the interests of harm reduction Ill let everyone know how Im doing in over the next few days
 
thanks semeria :)

The colour of the powder I had, and the smell of TCP fits the description of 6-APB, and the experience I had was what I had expected from 6-APB. But like you say, only testing will confirm what I had is 6-APB

Ive done some reading on α-Pyrrolidinopropiophenone and 4-MEC effects, my experience was nothing like what these 2 substances produce.

Like I mentioned before, if phase dancer can organise a test, Im willing to send a sample
 
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I'll organize a test in my personal intestines!

Was it really 'better' than MDMA? In what way was it better, the effects it produced, or the results?
 
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I'll organize a test in my personal intestines!

Was it really 'better' than MDMA? In what way was it better, the effects it produced, or the results?
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haha I bet!

the only thing I could compare it to would be the first time I took MDMA around 21 years ago, but it lasted much longer, very similar effects to MDMA. Nystagmus, very loved up and incredibly europhic. Id say what I had was on par with MDMA if not better, I hate to use this word but it was lush.

But be warned, Id say 99% of vendors are selling fake 6-APB and theres more bad reports about it than good. Be VERY VERY careful
 
^ Regarding your inquiry about testing the sample; there is an overseas lab that is doing free testing on samples people send in I think. Not sure what the site is, but people in the RC threads in OD have mentioned it.
 
Thanks Mr Blonds, Ill have a look and if all checks out, Ill gladly send a sample

EDIT: cant find the reference to the lab?
 
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there is definitely a source for pure apb powder its european and NOT from a uk vendor

bought some tried it, came up got dancing and chatting to people at this gay club and was partying with them till the very early hours in one of their flats. i wouldn't have done that so quickly on booze alone.

it was fun but next time i want to do it sober. it had an acid horny edge where things had a trippy vibe that was more mental than visual
 
I hope I am not going too OT with this, but what interests me about 6-APB is that people keep comparing it to MDMA, yet the effects people describe are much more closely aligned with MDA (as far as I can discern from only reading about it).

This is not surprising given the molecular structure of 6-APB is identical to MDA (and not MDMA) with only one minor change. I am not even convinced the one minor change would greatly effect the pharmacological properties of the molecule. The area of the molecule where there is a difference would still remain planar in shape and the only difference is the presence of an oxygen, which may well have some effect due to its higher electronegativity compared with carbon.

So the question is, what would N-methyl-6-APB (that is the MDMA equivalent) be like? For all we know it could be much more like MDMA, just like 6-APB seems to be very like MDA. Has anyone considered this? The reason 6-APB is not a "MDMA replacement" is because it is a MDA replacement and we are yet to have what would be the MDMA replacement, being the N-methylated version of 6-APB.

As for 6-APB, I cannot see this being able to be imported into Australia. I also agree that the UK situation is in such disarray that one cannot possibly know what one is ingesting, which is extremely dangerous.
 
Know your source, allergy test before consuming & realise if it doesn't seem to be active at the right dose, smell as described etc then it probably aint!

a-PPP & 6-APB do not come from the UK. Most likely an EU lab or Asia.
 
SWIM can get any substance pills or powder, other legal highs tested if its for a good reason. also their purity
 
SWIM can get any substance pills or powder, other legal highs tested if its for a good reason. also their purity
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Quantitative testing? Can you please elaborate on where/ how testing can be done which employs scheduled (and expensive) pure reference samples? The only places I know that can do this (legally and without costing an arm and a leg) are Forensics Labs. Unless of course this is on the side stuff done at a Uni lab or similar. In which case I would have to question where the pure references would come from.

Still, if there is another way, I'm as keen as anyone to hear it.
 
Another companies stock will be tested in the next few weeks. Another european nonUK store that has popped up askiing for pretty expensive prices. so far i dont think anyone has had 6-apb, but only cut impure synthed 5-apb with a dark beige sandy appearance
 
Well Eric Chem NRG range and even their "benzo fury" have been tested so many times and most of the time is a new result its really shocking
so yeah it seems most vendors ship out whatever is about to expire or mix random chemicals until a buyer says its ok so others buy it,bor they shill.
 
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Lagger could you please answer phases question? As for 6-apb and 5-apb it is available.

And as the good captain states above....know your sources. Always remember that death Is pretty final and no drug is worth your health

Oh and lagger, can you supply a link and source to your statement that another batch is being tested this week? Not that I doubt you, it's just you claim to be able to have any substance tested and now you claim to know that batches of 6-apb are going to be tested. I personally havnt heard of any such test, although I think it's a terrific idea as most vendors posses lower morals than your garden variety drug dealer
 
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