6-APB advice needed please...

[Antagonistix]

Hi all,

I have just got 2 6-apb pellets from a good source. I know their stuff is fairly pure and highly potent because i had a gram of 3-fa from them and it was really strong stuff, and beat any street speed I've tried for a long time. The purity of the street stuff seems to be going downhill lately. But a single gram has out lasted 3g of any speed I've tried for ages. The first test tiny and I mean really tiny lines I did as a test had me speeding my ass off for over 6 hours and strangely I wasn't compelled to go do more every couple hours like I am with normal speed.
Anyway, so i have these 2 125mg pellets from the same source and a similar potency is assured.

But im unsure what to expect exactly because the posts here are quite conflicting, plus most of them are about the powder type.

Im unsure whether it will be like E or mdma which I've done only 3 times but each different, but equally very pleasurable.
One was very empathy based and i love everyone and everything, and really wanted to socialise.
The next two were much more chilled ype of euphoria pleasantness where I just wanted to be with my girl and just chill watching tell or listening to music.

I've never tried mda. I don't want any kind of LSD or mushroom experience as I've had too many bad trips and I've heard that 6-apb is slightly halucinogenic.

So id really appreciate anyone experience on a similar dose 125mg, or even if it would be better to do bot 125mg pellets at once. For most it appears to peak around 4 hours or so but they do the powder and higher dose. How long would a single 125mg pellet last? Need to now that to know what time is best to take it. I don't wanna be up all night, but I got benzos to help me sleep, is nit safe to take them? Temazepam or madazolam or xanax ?

Im really after the more chilled type experience but don't mind a stimulating one either. Its something I would prefer to enjoy on my own as the current mrs does not approve of such drugs at all.
And m not really in much of a condition to go out but it could be arranged.


So in short if it can be a nice chilled euphoric few hours, it would be ideal. That was what I was hoping for when i got them, like the second two E's I had. But its been 10 years since that time.
Also, im on mirtazapine. Now should i avoid a dose the day before and the day I do it? Last thing I want is serotonin syndrome type symptoms.

So if anyone could cue me up I would be very grateful.

Thanks for listening!

 

[Ismene]

125-150 seems to be the sweet spot. Don't take both at once - I found it's a drug that actually gets less enjoyable the furthur past the sweet spot you get.

It's basically kind of like E, certainly not psychedelic. You might notice colours being a bit brighter but that's about it.

Nothing will happen for 2 hours and the suddenly you will be high as a kite for about 4-5 hours. Only problem is getting to sleep afterwards - you could be up 20 hours or so, so make sure you have a free day the next day.

 

[Shifty38]

Not taken pills but have taken doses ranging between 70 and 200. It isn't just a little bit trippy, it can get very, very trippy.

Come up can take anywhere between 15 minutes and 3 hours (those are my own personal experiences over 8 trips or so). You'll be peaking for several hours and the whole experience could last for 12 hours. On my most recent adventure, I didn't sleep for two days (48 hours) but that was with a total dose of 330 (spread over several hours).

The more you take, the more trippy and stimmy it gets. 125 is probably the safe place to start. If you don't want the trippy side, get some 5-APB instead - that sounds much more like what you're after.

Best of luck and go easy. This stuff is my favourite RC but it will mess you up if you disrespect it.

 

[Ismene]

Not taken pills but have taken doses ranging between 70 and 200. It isn't just a little bit trippy, it can get very, very trippy.

Trippy in what sense? Obviously it's nothing like LSD or mushrooms are trippy so what sort of "trippy" do you mean? Trippy in the same way glue is?

 

[Antagonistix]

125-150 seems to be the sweet spot. Don't take both at once - I found it's a drug that actually gets less enjoyable the furthur past the sweet spot you get.

It's basically kind of like E, certainly not psychedelic. You might notice colours being a bit brighter but that's about it.

Nothing will happen for 2 hours and the suddenly you will be high as a kite for about 4-5 hours. Only problem is getting to sleep afterwards - you could be up 20 hours or so, so make sure you have a free day the next day.

If its like this, its what im looking for. Slight visual stimulation I don't mind. Do you know if this is a majority viewpoint for pellets, I know powder seems to be more stimulating but im assured of high quality and purity.

Not taken pills but have taken doses ranging between 70 and 200. It isn't just a little bit trippy, it can get very, very trippy.

Come up can take anywhere between 15 minutes and 3 hours (those are my own personal experiences over 8 trips or so). You'll be peaking for several hours and the whole experience could last for 12 hours. On my most recent adventure, I didn't sleep for two days (48 hours) but that was with a total dose of 330 (spread over several hours).

The more you take, the more trippy and stimmy it gets. 125 is probably the safe place to start. If you don't want the trippy side, get some 5-APB instead - that sounds much more like what you're after.
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Trippy like lsd you mean? But how much lsd like was 125mg dose? I don't mind visual stimuli but don't want to spend hours wondering if I've gone insane. Is it setting dependant type tripping ? I thought it was supposed to be e like more so than 5apb, I enjoyed e each time but never found any of them trippy apart enhanced visual and audio stimuli.

So I guess you enjoy the trips on it and I haven't read any post of a bad trips, only physical side effects like nausea etc...
But then I haven't read many posts describing it as very trippy. I guess it varies a lot from person to person but there must be a reason its in this part of the forum PD,s.

 

[Ismene]

Nah - I'd forget that shit about it being "trippy". Maybe if you've never taken a psychedelic you might think it was trippy but in no way is it a psychedelic. It's a nice physical sensation - that's about it. You arn't going to be talking to the Sun God.

 

[how the gods chill]

i split 600mgs with my girlfriend a few months back, thought it was mdma, long story, my fault... anyways it was completely fucking overwhelming. the roll was fast but time was so slow! my girlfriend vomited violently on the come up and as far as the psychedelic experience there was PLENTY of eye candy, everything was always kind of warping and shifting, i smoked some weed and patterns became a factor, light became ridiculous and overwhelming, so bright! After 6 hours in my eyes were bugging out hard and i started seeing double. My left eye actually became lazy and that scared the fuck out of me and my girlfriend, literally, because I was uncontrollably horny and so was my girlfriend. I laid down and closed my eyes and kept telling myself, "it will be normal when i wake up" and i kept thinking that like i was counting sheep til i fell asleep. When i woke up i felt like i had just taken a nice dose of speed, so i suppose i was still rolling, and my eyes were fine. the next day however i had a crash from hell, never felt so miserable from one night of rolling. probably would have fell in love with 6apb if that incident wasnt my first experience with it. I don't think I'll ever try it again.

also, quick question for anyone concerning my eyes. on other stimulants when used in moderate to higher doses my left eye twitches, this was the eye that went lazy during that roll, is this possible signs of astigmatism? you can pm me so i don't hijack the thread.

 

[Antagonistix]

sounds like you did too much for your first time
Have you only tried it that once?

On the eye front, same thing started happening to me a few months back. Mainly off speed but worse on ketamine which i never k hole, just do very small bumps. And not regularly but its what started the double vision.

Its my right eye and it waters and i see double vision cos its grown weak. I went to Optician and its definately buggered and I will be wearing glasses now. Not sure if its just the stuff thats gone up my nose that has caused this but i would assign the majority of the blame on it.maybe just seeded it up. But double vision when you're tired is not a good thing so be careful at least.

Go to Optician dude and if u need glasses get them or your eye will worsen and try limit what you put up your nose.

 

[atara]

Nah - I'd forget that shit about it being "trippy". Maybe if you've never taken a psychedelic you might think it was trippy but in no way is it a psychedelic. It's a nice physical sensation - that's about it. You arn't going to be talking to the Sun God.

For once, I agree with Ismene. It shouldn't be trippy in any serious way at ordinary doses. Visuals, sure, introspection, sure, but it won't mess with your ego and you'll feel basically in control the whole time on 125 mg. Coordination is affected, especially with weed. High doses are different, and how the gods chill's post seems like a good example of that.

Mirtazapine will probably diminish the effects somewhat. It's a serotonin antagonist and NRI. But it doesn't touch 5-ht1a, 5-ht4 or 5-ht6 and it isn't too strong at 5-ht2a. I'd still skip a dose. It's generally a good idea to avoid combining drugs.

 

[Antagonistix]

Nah - I'd forget that shit about it being "trippy". Maybe if you've never taken a psychedelic you might think it was trippy but in no way is it a psychedelic. It's a nice physical sensation - that's about it. You arn't going to be talking to the Sun God.

Do you mind telling me if you have done it very many times, and has it been fairly similar at the dose level were talking about?

I doubt its trippy like lsd too, not many other posts suggesting anything other than enhanced vision and sound. Some mild visionary distortions, but not major hallucinations. Maybe it does at double that dose but if how you describe it is the majority experience I'll be comfortable to take it on a suitable day.

Thanks for your input, useful info. Most people seemto do much bigger doses and have different experiences, so e good some bad, maybe related to how much mdma they've done. That can be fairly neurotoxic.

 

[how the gods chill]

To clarify it was my first experience with 6apb and the dose was 300mgs Orally expecting it to be mdma. And i realized i made the mistake of grabbing 6apb instead of the mdma on the comeup. If i knew it was 6apb i would have dosed 100 - 175mgs orally. And yes im going to get my eyes checked, thanks a lot!

 

[Ismene]

For once, I agree with Ismene.

That worries me atara

Do you mind telling me if you have done it very many times, and has it been fairly similar at the dose level were talking about?

I'm only a newcomer to it myself but you only need to take it a couple of times to get an idea of it's nature. I'm very experienced with all kinds of psychedelics and 6-apb isn't psychedelic. Not much enhanced vision or sound really. Perhaps about as much as you get from MDMA.

But don't let me put you off - it's a marvellous drug. The really great thing about it is the duration - the peak lasts for 4-5 hours so you've no urge to redose.

I'm hopefully trying 5-apb at the weekend - hoping that's as nice as 6 but has a shorter duration so you can get to sleep.

 

[HighonLife]

hm i seem to have some sligthly different experience then those in here

someone said the sweet spot is 100-125mg and it doesnt necessarily get better the higher you go

i started at 150 and thought it was slightly more mild then i expected

it was very pleasent tho, it was quite intense when i laid back and closed my eyes but if i opened my eyes n walked around i didnt really feel it much

also it seems to kick in within about 45 mins

also it only seemed to really last like 4 hours tops, i took valium to go to sleep and i did so i cant comment on the no sleep aspect

i figured if i did it again id go for 200mg but would yall recommend stepping back and trying 125 or 100?

 

[Jesusgreen]

I'd take one pellet. I find 150mg a good dose but others have had success with 100-125mg doses. I'd much prefer to dose slightly too low than slightly too much with 6-APB, MDMA and similar drugs - 6-APB in particular, as for a few hours after your experience you won't be able to sleep and may feel a little down due to the drop off in effects, but if you take a rather large dose these after-effects are worsened and extended for an even longer duration - with not enough boost in euphoria and positive effects to be worth it.

It's not psychedelic in any traditional sense. There are some very light visual distortions, at a 125mg dose I don't think any of these would even be present as at 150mg they are rather mild. At 200mg+ the visuals get stronger and you get some quite intense memory loss and your thoughts begin to feel less like a roll and take on a slightly trippy edge, but even at that dosage it feels like a roll and not a trip.

At regular doses the main differences between this and MDMA for me are the duration and the fact that 6-APB is a lot more stimulating. It has some psychedelic effects, but they're no trip.

 

[grudgehugger]

Per most replies, I'd definitely go with one pellet only.

Have taken this a fair few times, pellets and powder and almost always had a great time. Hard to go wrong, but I'd definitely advise not eating too much beforehand and not drinking (much) alcohol either. And do leave time between uses, I've tried taking it in quick succession two times and it's just a waste - stimmy effects w/o much upside.

I've been doing 150 + 100mg a few times this year... works great at festivals.

Took one pellet only when going to cinema and clubbing last weekend and was pleasantly surprised at what a great high it was. No noticeable difference in euphoria from higher doses, just less of the mildly psychedelic effects