cloudtiger
Greenlighter
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- Apr 20, 2011
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Hi all
This is my first post after lurking for a while adding to my research and generally either getting inspired, informed or down right frightened of some of the experiences peeps have on these forums.
All I can say is thank you to all the honest and sharing folks that have taken time out to write and discuss things. I have a few things to say about some RC experiences that I hope will be helpful to some out there.
Bit of background.. I am on the slightly 'cautious' side of enjoying my self with substances, so to some maybe a bit boring and to others maybe still quite crazy. Total newbie to the RC/legals world. Use to enjoy maryjane in hash form in my teens(1990s), but don't get it at all now and associate toking with time wasting. Found the genetically modified weed of late to be horribly unsuited to my needs and mind. Made me a paranoid wreck couple of times, so stay well away.
Then the other side of my later teens / early twenties spent many great nights partying on ex and on rare occasions, mdma. I found the feelings and mind-state from this drug complex and utterly controllable. I never did more it said on the tin. Never more than 2-3 pills on a crazy long night. Have come across some that claimed 20-25 pills in single sitting!, mental. Must mention that all party buddies at the time consumed much more than me and were also peppering the evenings with booze and charles, both of which were completely pointless for me. Never understood snorting anything, tired it a few times and just ruined my nose for months. As for plugging, way to hardcore for me. Just plain old bombing or dropping a pill was enough for me.
As for mdma, this was by far the cleanest, warmest, and found it best suited to my personality, just once or twice a year this substance turned up the colour/contrast/tone and amplified an appreciation for life. Very nice stuff. I was able to do stuff, enjoy time with friends/people around me, feel that euphoria that everyone mentions (I must admit it is the crowd situations that this feeling really takes hold), move and dance, read or learn, etc. Come downs were very fuzzy and easy going, I could rest and then sleep. no aches, never got the gurning/ jaw locking, also had an appetite. I love eating tasty food so substances that suppress appetite I find depressing.
Well fast forward to early 30's, quite a different lifestyle now, less if any clubbing at all, so don't desire substances for dancing/socialising as before. All party buddies all older and settled now - all into drinking, which never did it for me. So no illegals for many years. So having experienced the spark of mdma on your perception, naturally you would occasionally desire and wonder about the feeling that this created, a bit of momentary clarity and a buzz. A few years ago this wondering led me to order a couple of at the time legal Piperazine based products. Contrary to all the bad press and trip reports, I found this substance to orchestrate a similar warmth and body sensation as mdma. I never found mdma to be morish as some say, but on the right night with good friends it was easy to binge. Whereas peperarine did not have this quality, it did feel a little cruder but all in all a good substitute and legal at the time.
Fast forward further now, so a good 2 years on and still get the need to turn up the contrast on life, give me a little clarity, so I was left wondering what the whole rc world was about.
I trawled sites/forums for weeks, all seemed a mixed bag. So decided to take the plunge and ordered some legal rc. Plunge meaning dipping my toe in, rather than head first like some of the youth.
That's another thing the rc market mainly seemed crazy young kids. So had to consider that my life and time was slightly different to these nippers.
I read some good things about 6-apb, all these names and the numbers frighten me slightly and I really am treading carefully, I respect my life/mental health and that of others.
So arrived the order a few weeks ago, due to late arrival the vendor supplied quite a lot extra. Carried out an allergy test (around 5mg). I felt a little flutter in my tummy (but this may have been placebo anxiety).
So next evening I consumed 100mg (+-10mg) at 7pm, just on an average evening in, enjoy some music, browse the net, read stuff, then hopefully get some sleep. My life situation means that I cannot have a wild carefree weekend without worries; so I really need something that provides that short window of heightened perception.
This will just be a short summary rather than a big report as it was a few weeks ago now.
7.30pm, so half an hour in, my stomach started to feel very strange, I have never experienced tummy upsets with any substance; generally have quite hard stomach. I had eaten as I never take things on empty. leaves me too wasted next day. So the feeling may have been my dinner.
8pm Worse feeling in stomach(might just be that I had a full stomach?), wc vist, save messy details - afterwards feeling settles and feel much better.
8.45pm Tingling sensation, a slight coming up feeling and excitement. No nausea. This went on for a while, very subtle euphoric warmth. I remember watching Jools Holland, all the acts sounded great, so music enjoyment was enhanced. My heart was racing quite fast, but I was able to sit still and relax.
All quite subtle I thought.
10pm Same as before but a hum of speediness is taking over the initial feeling, giving a very chemically edge. Speed and stims are not really much use for me, and I don't enjoy this edginess, but appreciate that others do.
10.30-midnight Heavy speediness with the gentle euphoria, along with a completely uncontrollable jaw, going from left to right without any ability to stop it. I never get gurns with mdma/peparazines, so this sensation was strange and times really bloody annoying. I was just listening to music on headphones, sounded great. but the speediness whilst being indoors and on my own felt empty and pointless. Maybe this would make a better party high.
12.30 (5 hours in) I tried to read a book, I was really nervous that I wouldn't be able to wind down, I wanted the feeling to just hurry up and leave my body, but instead it stayed, speedy rushing in head, jaw, heart, body felt relaxed though, so I did not need to move. So there I lied in bed for 5-6 hours trying to sleep, lots of tossing, no comfortable position, mind all over the place (should've got up and done something productive, but I found that I was on the verge of sleeping every hour or so).
at some point at around 6am I must have fallen asleep but it felt like a blink. When I woke up (to bright morning sunshine), I felt strangely fine, a bit sleep deprived, but nothing like I was dreading all through the night. No negative thoughts at all. The day then was really normal, my eyes were slightly dilated and tired looking, but was able to get things done and talk to people with no issues, most alarming was that I had bugger all appetite, that felt rubbish as I really needed to eat, but somehow the mental hold of this chem killed appetite, this felt wrong for me . That night I slept really well, woke the next day feeling back to base.
So in summary, this rc is way to speedy for my needs. You also seemed to need a lot of time on your hands. The way it churned my stomach was the worst bit, and then not having any appetite for the whole next day, weird. Maybe a smaller dose might have helped my situation.
All in all, definitely an active compound, just want to stress for people to be careful of these substances and to take it easy, maybe not to see it as a working up to larger does, to just keep to comfort zones. So unpredictable, so play safe.
Thanks for reading. Have fun and take care of yourselves.
CT
This is my first post after lurking for a while adding to my research and generally either getting inspired, informed or down right frightened of some of the experiences peeps have on these forums.
All I can say is thank you to all the honest and sharing folks that have taken time out to write and discuss things. I have a few things to say about some RC experiences that I hope will be helpful to some out there.
Bit of background.. I am on the slightly 'cautious' side of enjoying my self with substances, so to some maybe a bit boring and to others maybe still quite crazy. Total newbie to the RC/legals world. Use to enjoy maryjane in hash form in my teens(1990s), but don't get it at all now and associate toking with time wasting. Found the genetically modified weed of late to be horribly unsuited to my needs and mind. Made me a paranoid wreck couple of times, so stay well away.
Then the other side of my later teens / early twenties spent many great nights partying on ex and on rare occasions, mdma. I found the feelings and mind-state from this drug complex and utterly controllable. I never did more it said on the tin. Never more than 2-3 pills on a crazy long night. Have come across some that claimed 20-25 pills in single sitting!, mental. Must mention that all party buddies at the time consumed much more than me and were also peppering the evenings with booze and charles, both of which were completely pointless for me. Never understood snorting anything, tired it a few times and just ruined my nose for months. As for plugging, way to hardcore for me. Just plain old bombing or dropping a pill was enough for me.
As for mdma, this was by far the cleanest, warmest, and found it best suited to my personality, just once or twice a year this substance turned up the colour/contrast/tone and amplified an appreciation for life. Very nice stuff. I was able to do stuff, enjoy time with friends/people around me, feel that euphoria that everyone mentions (I must admit it is the crowd situations that this feeling really takes hold), move and dance, read or learn, etc. Come downs were very fuzzy and easy going, I could rest and then sleep. no aches, never got the gurning/ jaw locking, also had an appetite. I love eating tasty food so substances that suppress appetite I find depressing.
Well fast forward to early 30's, quite a different lifestyle now, less if any clubbing at all, so don't desire substances for dancing/socialising as before. All party buddies all older and settled now - all into drinking, which never did it for me. So no illegals for many years. So having experienced the spark of mdma on your perception, naturally you would occasionally desire and wonder about the feeling that this created, a bit of momentary clarity and a buzz. A few years ago this wondering led me to order a couple of at the time legal Piperazine based products. Contrary to all the bad press and trip reports, I found this substance to orchestrate a similar warmth and body sensation as mdma. I never found mdma to be morish as some say, but on the right night with good friends it was easy to binge. Whereas peperarine did not have this quality, it did feel a little cruder but all in all a good substitute and legal at the time.
Fast forward further now, so a good 2 years on and still get the need to turn up the contrast on life, give me a little clarity, so I was left wondering what the whole rc world was about.
I trawled sites/forums for weeks, all seemed a mixed bag. So decided to take the plunge and ordered some legal rc. Plunge meaning dipping my toe in, rather than head first like some of the youth.
That's another thing the rc market mainly seemed crazy young kids. So had to consider that my life and time was slightly different to these nippers.
I read some good things about 6-apb, all these names and the numbers frighten me slightly and I really am treading carefully, I respect my life/mental health and that of others.
So arrived the order a few weeks ago, due to late arrival the vendor supplied quite a lot extra. Carried out an allergy test (around 5mg). I felt a little flutter in my tummy (but this may have been placebo anxiety).
So next evening I consumed 100mg (+-10mg) at 7pm, just on an average evening in, enjoy some music, browse the net, read stuff, then hopefully get some sleep. My life situation means that I cannot have a wild carefree weekend without worries; so I really need something that provides that short window of heightened perception.
This will just be a short summary rather than a big report as it was a few weeks ago now.
7.30pm, so half an hour in, my stomach started to feel very strange, I have never experienced tummy upsets with any substance; generally have quite hard stomach. I had eaten as I never take things on empty. leaves me too wasted next day. So the feeling may have been my dinner.
8pm Worse feeling in stomach(might just be that I had a full stomach?), wc vist, save messy details - afterwards feeling settles and feel much better.
8.45pm Tingling sensation, a slight coming up feeling and excitement. No nausea. This went on for a while, very subtle euphoric warmth. I remember watching Jools Holland, all the acts sounded great, so music enjoyment was enhanced. My heart was racing quite fast, but I was able to sit still and relax.
All quite subtle I thought.
10pm Same as before but a hum of speediness is taking over the initial feeling, giving a very chemically edge. Speed and stims are not really much use for me, and I don't enjoy this edginess, but appreciate that others do.
10.30-midnight Heavy speediness with the gentle euphoria, along with a completely uncontrollable jaw, going from left to right without any ability to stop it. I never get gurns with mdma/peparazines, so this sensation was strange and times really bloody annoying. I was just listening to music on headphones, sounded great. but the speediness whilst being indoors and on my own felt empty and pointless. Maybe this would make a better party high.
12.30 (5 hours in) I tried to read a book, I was really nervous that I wouldn't be able to wind down, I wanted the feeling to just hurry up and leave my body, but instead it stayed, speedy rushing in head, jaw, heart, body felt relaxed though, so I did not need to move. So there I lied in bed for 5-6 hours trying to sleep, lots of tossing, no comfortable position, mind all over the place (should've got up and done something productive, but I found that I was on the verge of sleeping every hour or so).
at some point at around 6am I must have fallen asleep but it felt like a blink. When I woke up (to bright morning sunshine), I felt strangely fine, a bit sleep deprived, but nothing like I was dreading all through the night. No negative thoughts at all. The day then was really normal, my eyes were slightly dilated and tired looking, but was able to get things done and talk to people with no issues, most alarming was that I had bugger all appetite, that felt rubbish as I really needed to eat, but somehow the mental hold of this chem killed appetite, this felt wrong for me . That night I slept really well, woke the next day feeling back to base.
So in summary, this rc is way to speedy for my needs. You also seemed to need a lot of time on your hands. The way it churned my stomach was the worst bit, and then not having any appetite for the whole next day, weird. Maybe a smaller dose might have helped my situation.
All in all, definitely an active compound, just want to stress for people to be careful of these substances and to take it easy, maybe not to see it as a working up to larger does, to just keep to comfort zones. So unpredictable, so play safe.
Thanks for reading. Have fun and take care of yourselves.
CT
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