futuretastic
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6-apb 100mg
I received a small amount of 6-apb via mail. It seemed to fit all descriptions of the substance. Its was a tan, super fine powder that reeked of some smell that I believe to be TCP according to Bluelight conjecture.
A few days after receiving the 6-apb powder, I put some on my tongue as an allergy test. Just a milligram or so. No effects were felt.
A couple of weeks after that, on the weekend, I snorted two good snorts (one for each nostril) of about 15 mgs each of the powder, totaling about 30 milligrams.
I felt a blast of dust to my lungs. Much of the chemical stuck inside my nasal cavity, but a fair amount of the extremely fine, tan, 6-apb powder blasted into each lung also. Although slightly uncomfortable, this encouraged me as this was another property of the chemical that I had read online that aligned itself with what I was encountering with my batch. Further leading me to believe that I had the real thing.
A little was perhaps felt an hour or so after snorting the 30 milligrams of 6-apb. Just the feeling of 'cold skin' that I get with a lot of entactogenic phenethylamines, although it was actually somewhat cold in the room at the time also. I was assured enough by these tests, that if I ate 100 milligrams, I didn't think I would die, since it was so inactive at 1 and 30 milligrams.
So, some time after snorting the 30 milligrams, I got out my digital milligram scale. The research chemical explorers most trusty of tools. I weighed and reweighed until I had 5 gel caps with 100 milligrams of 6-apb in each.
The next night at 9:00pm, I ate one of the 100 milligram capsules. I didn't feel anything for almost three and a half hours. It took so long I finally began to question the quality of my substance. Then, ZANG. It's almost like some phenethylamines will wait you out until you finally question their legitimacy, almost baiting or trolling you, before finally hitting you with the effects.
I did have an absolutely packed stomach going into this though, which I'm sure had alot to do with the extremely long come up for me. In fact I'm surprised I didn't throw up, although I did come somewhat close.
Getting back to the timeline, it finally absorbed through my chock full stomach about three and a half hours later. I began to feel, more or less, like I was rolling on mda/mdma, except less stimulated, more serene. I was by myself in a room, and I ended up socializing on instant message with a friend off and on through the experience. I had a computer at the foot of the bed I was rolling around on during the experience.
I think this might have been more interesting / felt better with a friend or lover in person. But, Since I was alone, I mainly writhed around feeling the chemical and thinking, and sometimes talking to my friend on the computer.
The come-up was a somewhat rough phenethylamine dopaminergic rush type of come up. Similar generally to mdma/mda/2c-e. I almost had to throw up, but not quite. With a higher dose I would have definitely thrown up with all that food in my belly. I almost always throw up at least a little bit on the come up of a good dose of MDMA, on 2c-e it only happens if my stomach is really full.
I felt a little bit paranoid throughout the come-up and experience, which often happens to me when I roll alone. I had empathic urges to communicate with my friends online or in any other format for long periods of time. I did communicate with one of them off and on during the experience, and when we were communicating I felt most liberated from paranoia, and probably more euphoric.
I think it had something to do with the entactogenic properties of the drug having an outlet, besides myself rolling around on a bed in raw, alone, self-experiential mode. It's hard to describe the feeling of rolling without just kind of saying, 'you know, like when you're rolling on mdma'. But I'll try:
It's kind of like an electric feeling, coursing through your skin. My skin often feels cool (at least subjectively from my perspective inside my own body) on the surface.. The coolness often (not always) feels very pleasureable, I would even say 'euphoric', but this euphoria depends on other bodily sensations affected by the drug or life and circumstance, and also psychological states, moods, and occurances.
So I had that cool, electric feeling through the skin, on the outside, and there was a psychological effect in my brain of course as well that coincided with this. A lessening, of inhibitions -an interest in communicating with others and thinking about life.
Besides my skin and brain, I primarily noticed effects in the gastrointestinal region / throat, as mentioned above. I felt on the verge of throwing up, with maybe the bile building up in my throat a little bit, as it does before I throw up. My stomach itself didn't feel very upset though, just full, as I had eaten much, up until an hour or sooner before the experience.
It didn't effect the feelings in my muscles a whole lot at the time. It didn't make me feel like jelly like mushrooms would, it doesn't have the strange body feelings of acid. Although I didn't get much exercise beyond writhing around in a bed for about 9 hours.
Once I had come up all the way -at about t+4.5-5 hours (about 1:30am) since I had such a long come up- The nausea and 'verge of vomiting' sensations slowly seceded. Everything about this drug moves kind of slowly and takes awhile, as I see it. From the come up, to the effects, to the come down. Although this is a stimulating drug. It's just relaxed for a stimulant and perhaps hard for the body to metabolize which leads to protracted effects.
When the mild gastrointestinal distress faded, I found myself in an impressive state. I felt like I was rolling, as described above, but I didn't feel much stimulation. That is, it seemed I felt markedly less stimulated than when under the effects of mdma, I felt more serene. This phase of the experience was probably the peak, and was definitely the most euphoric and enjoyable part.
It was the most euphoric and subjectively enjoyable part of the experience, because I experienced a psychological openness and urge to communicate with others, as well as the enjoyable phenethylamine vibrations throughout my body, blissful, approaching loved-up -without any real negative effects, physical or psychological, intruding on the good vibes for awhile.
This peak state lasted perhaps an hour or two. During which I alternately used the computer to talk to my friend, and rolled around in bed thinking. Around 3 to 4:30 am I began to transition from this blissful state into another state in which I felt somewhat agitated, restless, and stimulated. This may have had to do with the fact that I hadn't had much exercise lately and had been eating a lot and laying around resting. So even though I wanted to just rest physically, my body was very much awake because I had been getting alot of rest lately and had now taken a stimulating, entactogenic, psychedelic euphoriant. : )
From about 4:30 to 7:30 am I rolled around feeling somewhat uncomfortable and stimulated. I could feel my pulse pumping throughout my body strongly when I lifted my left arm and lied on my heart, so I avoided this after awhile. I had smoked marshmallow leaf blended with 2201 on the come-up, but not during the experience as the effects were quite strong enough. Now to help myself come down I smoked some 2201 blend, with an aim to getting very high (although 2201 is a short 30 minute high). I may have added some 122 for longevity.
At this point, around 6-7:30 am-ish, smoking weed on the prolonged, stimulating comedown -the psychedelic side of the drug really came out. I had closed eye visuals of smearing colored patterns going from large swathes of color to intricate scenes. I don't remember any of the specifics of the CEV's beyond that, and that they were fairly interesting / enjoyable at the time, if not as totally engrossing as a more standard seratonergic psychedelic drug's visuals might be...but very close and actually I remember noting at the time that there did seem to be something unique about them, primarily the large swathes of color which I don't normally get. I think I am more prone to intricate CEV's. I wasn't looking for this kind of effect in the drug, but it was welcome when it came and I enjoyed it.
After an hour or two of this, I finally fell asleep around 9am. I had fitful sleep all day, sleeping for 2 hours or so and waking up and rolling around, then sleeping for another two hours. I did manage to do this until 5pm though when I could no longer stay in bed and got up to do some things and be awake.
In summation, this is an extremely interesting and valuable chemical when you get a hold of a somewhat pure batch. It's a bit long lasting, has kind of a harsh come up, and a long stimulating gradual return to baseline, but when you're peaking it really is great A+ phenethylamine stuff, and I bet it could be totally great the whole time in certain situations. Probably situations where you have others that you are really close with to share your thoughts and feelings with when you want, but also the ability to be alone when you want. Trip-sitter + small group of close friends in a cozy setting would probably be most ideal.
Besides the serene, blissful peak, the psychedelic phase that I got on the comedown when very stoned was also extremely interesting and positive for me. So, while there were some minuses or inconveniences to the experience (some gastrointestinal distress, paranoia when alone probably to do dopaminergic action, long stimulating comedown), the positives or 'highs' were soaring, interesting, rolling, quality highs that made it overall worthwhile in my opinion to eat 100 milligrams of this tan, weird smelling substance. Although, I won't be doing it again for quite some time. I hadn't tripped or done any drugs besides weed and cannabinoids for about 7 months prior to this experience.
How does this stack up against other drugs, specifically phenethylamines? MDMA is shorter acting and when MDMA wears off (sharply at the 4 hour mark or so) I can go right to sleep, so MDMA would almost be better for me if I want to roll for a shorter period. Whereas this is good for rolling for a longer period basically. The thing is, when I have taken rolls with friends in the past (very infrequently, once a year or so) we often want it to keep working and end up having to redose a few hours in. With this you could do one dose with friends and no re-doses would be necessary if you dosed right at the outset in my opinion.
That being said, if I could only have one phenethylamine, I'd probably stick with 2c-e. 2c-e euphoria (when it occurs, especially when combined with cannabinoids or cannabis) is as good or better than mdma/mda/6apb euphoria (when it occurs, also never outright gauranteed for me) in my opinion, and is more psychedelic and interesting to me. So 2c-e is still my favorite phenethylamine (easily), but 6-apb is way up there with 2c-e, and mdma/mda on my list of favorites.
I received a small amount of 6-apb via mail. It seemed to fit all descriptions of the substance. Its was a tan, super fine powder that reeked of some smell that I believe to be TCP according to Bluelight conjecture.
A few days after receiving the 6-apb powder, I put some on my tongue as an allergy test. Just a milligram or so. No effects were felt.
A couple of weeks after that, on the weekend, I snorted two good snorts (one for each nostril) of about 15 mgs each of the powder, totaling about 30 milligrams.
I felt a blast of dust to my lungs. Much of the chemical stuck inside my nasal cavity, but a fair amount of the extremely fine, tan, 6-apb powder blasted into each lung also. Although slightly uncomfortable, this encouraged me as this was another property of the chemical that I had read online that aligned itself with what I was encountering with my batch. Further leading me to believe that I had the real thing.
A little was perhaps felt an hour or so after snorting the 30 milligrams of 6-apb. Just the feeling of 'cold skin' that I get with a lot of entactogenic phenethylamines, although it was actually somewhat cold in the room at the time also. I was assured enough by these tests, that if I ate 100 milligrams, I didn't think I would die, since it was so inactive at 1 and 30 milligrams.
So, some time after snorting the 30 milligrams, I got out my digital milligram scale. The research chemical explorers most trusty of tools. I weighed and reweighed until I had 5 gel caps with 100 milligrams of 6-apb in each.
The next night at 9:00pm, I ate one of the 100 milligram capsules. I didn't feel anything for almost three and a half hours. It took so long I finally began to question the quality of my substance. Then, ZANG. It's almost like some phenethylamines will wait you out until you finally question their legitimacy, almost baiting or trolling you, before finally hitting you with the effects.
I did have an absolutely packed stomach going into this though, which I'm sure had alot to do with the extremely long come up for me. In fact I'm surprised I didn't throw up, although I did come somewhat close.
Getting back to the timeline, it finally absorbed through my chock full stomach about three and a half hours later. I began to feel, more or less, like I was rolling on mda/mdma, except less stimulated, more serene. I was by myself in a room, and I ended up socializing on instant message with a friend off and on through the experience. I had a computer at the foot of the bed I was rolling around on during the experience.
I think this might have been more interesting / felt better with a friend or lover in person. But, Since I was alone, I mainly writhed around feeling the chemical and thinking, and sometimes talking to my friend on the computer.
The come-up was a somewhat rough phenethylamine dopaminergic rush type of come up. Similar generally to mdma/mda/2c-e. I almost had to throw up, but not quite. With a higher dose I would have definitely thrown up with all that food in my belly. I almost always throw up at least a little bit on the come up of a good dose of MDMA, on 2c-e it only happens if my stomach is really full.
I felt a little bit paranoid throughout the come-up and experience, which often happens to me when I roll alone. I had empathic urges to communicate with my friends online or in any other format for long periods of time. I did communicate with one of them off and on during the experience, and when we were communicating I felt most liberated from paranoia, and probably more euphoric.
I think it had something to do with the entactogenic properties of the drug having an outlet, besides myself rolling around on a bed in raw, alone, self-experiential mode. It's hard to describe the feeling of rolling without just kind of saying, 'you know, like when you're rolling on mdma'. But I'll try:
It's kind of like an electric feeling, coursing through your skin. My skin often feels cool (at least subjectively from my perspective inside my own body) on the surface.. The coolness often (not always) feels very pleasureable, I would even say 'euphoric', but this euphoria depends on other bodily sensations affected by the drug or life and circumstance, and also psychological states, moods, and occurances.
So I had that cool, electric feeling through the skin, on the outside, and there was a psychological effect in my brain of course as well that coincided with this. A lessening, of inhibitions -an interest in communicating with others and thinking about life.
Besides my skin and brain, I primarily noticed effects in the gastrointestinal region / throat, as mentioned above. I felt on the verge of throwing up, with maybe the bile building up in my throat a little bit, as it does before I throw up. My stomach itself didn't feel very upset though, just full, as I had eaten much, up until an hour or sooner before the experience.
It didn't effect the feelings in my muscles a whole lot at the time. It didn't make me feel like jelly like mushrooms would, it doesn't have the strange body feelings of acid. Although I didn't get much exercise beyond writhing around in a bed for about 9 hours.
Once I had come up all the way -at about t+4.5-5 hours (about 1:30am) since I had such a long come up- The nausea and 'verge of vomiting' sensations slowly seceded. Everything about this drug moves kind of slowly and takes awhile, as I see it. From the come up, to the effects, to the come down. Although this is a stimulating drug. It's just relaxed for a stimulant and perhaps hard for the body to metabolize which leads to protracted effects.
When the mild gastrointestinal distress faded, I found myself in an impressive state. I felt like I was rolling, as described above, but I didn't feel much stimulation. That is, it seemed I felt markedly less stimulated than when under the effects of mdma, I felt more serene. This phase of the experience was probably the peak, and was definitely the most euphoric and enjoyable part.
It was the most euphoric and subjectively enjoyable part of the experience, because I experienced a psychological openness and urge to communicate with others, as well as the enjoyable phenethylamine vibrations throughout my body, blissful, approaching loved-up -without any real negative effects, physical or psychological, intruding on the good vibes for awhile.
This peak state lasted perhaps an hour or two. During which I alternately used the computer to talk to my friend, and rolled around in bed thinking. Around 3 to 4:30 am I began to transition from this blissful state into another state in which I felt somewhat agitated, restless, and stimulated. This may have had to do with the fact that I hadn't had much exercise lately and had been eating a lot and laying around resting. So even though I wanted to just rest physically, my body was very much awake because I had been getting alot of rest lately and had now taken a stimulating, entactogenic, psychedelic euphoriant. : )
From about 4:30 to 7:30 am I rolled around feeling somewhat uncomfortable and stimulated. I could feel my pulse pumping throughout my body strongly when I lifted my left arm and lied on my heart, so I avoided this after awhile. I had smoked marshmallow leaf blended with 2201 on the come-up, but not during the experience as the effects were quite strong enough. Now to help myself come down I smoked some 2201 blend, with an aim to getting very high (although 2201 is a short 30 minute high). I may have added some 122 for longevity.
At this point, around 6-7:30 am-ish, smoking weed on the prolonged, stimulating comedown -the psychedelic side of the drug really came out. I had closed eye visuals of smearing colored patterns going from large swathes of color to intricate scenes. I don't remember any of the specifics of the CEV's beyond that, and that they were fairly interesting / enjoyable at the time, if not as totally engrossing as a more standard seratonergic psychedelic drug's visuals might be...but very close and actually I remember noting at the time that there did seem to be something unique about them, primarily the large swathes of color which I don't normally get. I think I am more prone to intricate CEV's. I wasn't looking for this kind of effect in the drug, but it was welcome when it came and I enjoyed it.
After an hour or two of this, I finally fell asleep around 9am. I had fitful sleep all day, sleeping for 2 hours or so and waking up and rolling around, then sleeping for another two hours. I did manage to do this until 5pm though when I could no longer stay in bed and got up to do some things and be awake.
In summation, this is an extremely interesting and valuable chemical when you get a hold of a somewhat pure batch. It's a bit long lasting, has kind of a harsh come up, and a long stimulating gradual return to baseline, but when you're peaking it really is great A+ phenethylamine stuff, and I bet it could be totally great the whole time in certain situations. Probably situations where you have others that you are really close with to share your thoughts and feelings with when you want, but also the ability to be alone when you want. Trip-sitter + small group of close friends in a cozy setting would probably be most ideal.
Besides the serene, blissful peak, the psychedelic phase that I got on the comedown when very stoned was also extremely interesting and positive for me. So, while there were some minuses or inconveniences to the experience (some gastrointestinal distress, paranoia when alone probably to do dopaminergic action, long stimulating comedown), the positives or 'highs' were soaring, interesting, rolling, quality highs that made it overall worthwhile in my opinion to eat 100 milligrams of this tan, weird smelling substance. Although, I won't be doing it again for quite some time. I hadn't tripped or done any drugs besides weed and cannabinoids for about 7 months prior to this experience.
How does this stack up against other drugs, specifically phenethylamines? MDMA is shorter acting and when MDMA wears off (sharply at the 4 hour mark or so) I can go right to sleep, so MDMA would almost be better for me if I want to roll for a shorter period. Whereas this is good for rolling for a longer period basically. The thing is, when I have taken rolls with friends in the past (very infrequently, once a year or so) we often want it to keep working and end up having to redose a few hours in. With this you could do one dose with friends and no re-doses would be necessary if you dosed right at the outset in my opinion.
That being said, if I could only have one phenethylamine, I'd probably stick with 2c-e. 2c-e euphoria (when it occurs, especially when combined with cannabinoids or cannabis) is as good or better than mdma/mda/6apb euphoria (when it occurs, also never outright gauranteed for me) in my opinion, and is more psychedelic and interesting to me. So 2c-e is still my favorite phenethylamine (easily), but 6-apb is way up there with 2c-e, and mdma/mda on my list of favorites.
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