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(6-abp / 200mg and 420mg) - Inexperienced User - My Two Experiences With 6-apb

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Friday - 10/21/2011

I wanted to have a good strong roll. I take a 3mg allergy test dose. No systems or effects. One hour later, measure 200mg and take it at 11:00pm.

12:00am. I start feeling the flashing in my head that something big is about to happen. I know at this moment I will be rolling very harder soon.
12:15am. Jaw starts chattering and I start feeling a huge buildup in the body high. Vision is going back and forth from super sharp to hazy.
12:30am. In an instant, I'm floored by this massive body high. It's completely overwhelming. I had to sit down and try to catch my breath. My jaw has never clinched and chattered as hard as it was that moment. I start noticing long tracers.
1:00am. I completely enveloped with 6-apb. One thing I noticed is there is almost no euphoria to speak of. Mentally, my mind is clear. I'm still having crystal clears thoughts like when I'm completely sober. Like the effects I'm feeling are effecting everything but the clarity of thought. Also, I start to notice that this unbelievable body high has a very narcotic feel to it. Unlike MDMA, MDA, who's euphoric and empathogenic mental effects add to the body high, this is not the case with 6-apb. I think if big opiate users tried a 200mg dose of 6-apb, they would notice the similarity.
1:30am. I definitely know I'm peaking at this point as my vision has gone haywire. Sharp images have halo's with movie like images inside of them. Trails I'm seeing from lights are incredibly long. I'm beyond physically intoxicated. Lots of MDA like hallucinations and even some morphing on the walls and ceiling.
2:45am. I finally feel I just finished the last plateau and I'm going to start coming down. Even though, my body still feels heavily intoxicated. While my body high is slowly starting to subside, I'm still having a good amount of visual. Nothing major, but with all that said, my mind felt completely at baseline like it was from the start of the trip. I would consider myself heavily fucked up, and in no way could look normal in public. But I was having the normal sober conversations I would at this time of night. "Hey, you need to get some sleep tomorrow. Your going to be going out tomorrow." "Are we going to get groceries when you wake up? Your low on meats." It was like my mind and body were completely disconnected from each other.
3:30am. Visuals are still at the same level but the body high has really started to drop off. I know within 2 hours, I should be pretty close to base line.
4:00am. I noticed the visuals are starting to subside and I take 4mg of xanax with 3 shots of whisky and I'm out in 20min.

Wake up @ 2:00pm with a pretty bad "e-hangover." I feel mentally drained, physically drained, and lethargic. I've had worst MDxx experience with the comedown, but I consider this one to be one of the worst ones I've ever had. And I've have hundreds of MDxx experiences. It's a strain just trying to walk around my house. I eat a sandwich, take 2mg of xanax, and go back to sleep. I wake up later that night around 11:00pm feeling a million times better. If your wondering, this was the first time I've taken any MDxx substance in 1 and a 1/2 years. Last time I did a MDxx substance was spring 2010 when I tried methylone. So I was really surprised I felt that down, and just marked it up to bad timing. I didn't consider this a bad experience, but it wasn't a good experience either. Just somewhere in the middle. I was really let down with the lack of euphoria, there was 0 euphoria throughout the experience, and I really wanted my mind to be pushed in some difference. Either the MDMA loved up mental space, the MDA crazy pandemonium mental state, or even Methylone's me me me mental state. Just somewhere, but throughout the experience, my mind was completely unstimulated or pushed in any direction. One more thing, the jaw clenching and chattering is ridiculous. I could have a constant chattering uninterrupted for 30 seconds.

Here's comes part 2. I had no idea 420mg of this substance is completely different from 200mg.

Friday 10/28/2011


I come home from a pretty lackluster night out. Both halloween events I went to didn't lead up to the hype. So I get home pretty drunk with the idea, let's gives 6-apb one more try. I pour the contents on my scale and it measures out to exactly 420mg. This intrigues me as I've always done a super mega dose of most substances and maybe 420mg is a sign. I've taken 500mg MDMA, 550mg bk-MDMA, 10 grams of homegrown dried shrooms. So I thought, why not. I take all 420mg at once at 3:15am.

4:00am: I know I'm already coming up fast, at an alarming rate. The rate the body high is increasing is making me feel nausea. I think about taking 1mg of xanax to take off the edge but I decide not to and ride it out as 6-apb wasn't super energetic the first time.
4:15am. I'm already at the highest point one hour in as I was during the peak of my 200mg experience.
4:15am-5:15am: Surprisingly, the body high never increases during this hour. Don't get me wrong, I'm incredibly fucked up, but everything I'm experiencing is everything I experienced the first 3 hours of the last trip. Even at this level, there's no euphoria and my mind is in a near sober state. I find this very odd.
5:45am: This is where the experience starts taking an unrecognizable turn. I'm still rolling at a very high level, but out of nowhere I start noticing a steamy smoke like substance pouring in the room. Very odd looking, I've taken many hallucinogens and never seen this effect better.
6:15am. I notice the walls and ceiling are morphing and moving, and it's very smoky and steamy in my house.
6:45am. Visuals keep getting more intense. As now, the walls, ceiling, and my hardwood floors are almost flowing like an ocean, 2c-x style. The extreme body high is still there.
7:15am. Visuals getting more and more intense. The sun comes out and it has a very golden quality to it with sparkly shimmers. Lights have rainbowish hues attached to them.
7:45am. Visuals are still getting more and more intense. Everything is flowing together in a beautiful colorful mosaic. I was completely unpaired for this, but with all my past hallucinogenic experiences, I'm not alarmed at all. Just very surprised. I decide to open my window and look outside and I was completely taken back. This is when I realized I'm tripping very hard. The sky was a perfect endless prism of shapes that perfectly fit together. The train goes by house and has a very eery low sound. Everything had an impressionism style look to it, always moving and always flowing. The trip has a very 2c-x quality to it, specifically 2c-i. At this point, it would have been similar to if I took 20mg of 2c-i
9:00am: The visuals are still get more intense and are getting to the level of where I feeling very nauseated. Nothing looked real at this point, It was like I was in a cartoon. My face was ever changing colors with hair growing shrinking. Been a very long time since I've seen that. Through all of this, my mind was crystal clear in a sober state.
10:00am. It's still getting more and more intense visuals. I am completely dumbfounded how no one has mentioned 6-apb can be this psychedelic in all the experience reports I've read, then I noticed, I'm probably the first person to take a supermega dose of this substance. This visuals are fast approaching my highest 2c-i dose of 35mg. I'm having trouble making anything out. Colors have all combined to formed this hueish rainbow color. My mind is starting to feel impaired from the chemical impaired for the first time. And I feel like the experience is fast getting me to a cationic state. I make the decision I want to end this experience because if I don't, I wouldn't know if I would go into a cationic state as I was fast approaching 1. I struggled into the kitchen the best I can, take 4mg of xanax, and 2 shots of whisky. 10 minutes later I start feeling that warm xanax blanket that everything will be ok. And I past out. I wake up at 4am into the night.

When I wake up at Sunday at 4am. I felt like complete death. I take 2mg of xanax and wake up at that afternoon at 5pm. I still feel like death. Physically taxed, mentally drained, and a serious case of depersonalization. Without a doubt, the worst comedown of any substances I've ever taken. And I have 100's of MDxx experiences, tons of psychedelic experiences with many 2c-x's, shrooms, lsd, tryptamines, and that 420mg dose gave me the worst come out of all of them bar none. Both time's 6-apb was poisonous to the body.

This is my timeline.
Saturday. Take 4mg of xanax with 2 shots, and am out by 10:30am.
Sunday 4:00am. - Wakeup from the 420mg experience almost 15 hours later and I have the worst feeling of my life. I immediately take 2mg of xanax, struggle to eat a sandwhich, and fall back to sleep.
Sunday 5:00pm - Wakeup feeling just as bad. Take another 2mg of xanax, a sandwhich, a couple shots of whisky, and fall back to sleep.
Monday 6:00pm. Wake up feeling pretty horrible still. Almost 3 days later. Just a tad better. I'm very worried as I have work the next morning. Force myself to eat half a large pizza and take 2mg of xanax. Fall back asleep.
Tuesday 7:00am. Wakeup and have to be at work in a hour. I still feel pretty crappy, drained, and no energy. I take 1mg of xanax, 1 5 hour energy and pray that I'll be ok at work as I have a 12 hour work day where I'll be talking to hundreds and hundreds of people face to face. Unbelievably I made it through work and not only that, I feel the tide has turned and I'll start feeling better each of the following days. Very scary beginning of the day.

Horrific comedown, worst I've ever experience. Taught me a good lesson, can't overdue these research chemicals. This will be the last time I'll ever take this substance. I can see how people could like this at lower dose, but for me, It's just not for me. Even the 200mg gave me a pretty bad comeback, and was fairly unremarkable, but 420mg was unimaginable. If it wasn't for my script of xanax, there would have been no way I could have made it out this situation as I could only imagine how horrible I would have felt without it and for it's effects for inducing sleep the next days after. I would have seriously thought about going to the hospital if I didn't have the xanax. I'm just happy the tide has turned for me. I hope. If you wondered what a stupid dose of 6-apb would be like, this is what it was like for me. Everyone be safe!! From one of the old school rollers from the late 90s, Peace, Love, Unity, and Repsect.

I'd like to add one more thing, is I learned nothing positive from both experiences I had from 6-apb. Taking 10grams of mushrooms changed my life in a very frightening and then ending in the most peaceful mind-states I've ever been in. I went through death, hell, and for a brief moment, ultimate clarity and understanding in the most heavenly state I've ever been in. I still remember every event of that trip 10 years later. 500mg of MDMA let me through a path of knowing, your friends are everything, they're like your family, they'll always be with you. Cherish all those special moments in life, there is only so few of them in this life of struggles and pains. I had experienced that many times of MDMA, but on 500mg, it was presented in such a way, that profoundly effected in a way it never had before. That's just to name a few. And through both experiences I had with 6-apb, I have nothing positive to say about either one of them and for me, that's the most painful part of all of it. 1 week of my life wasted for nothing after looking forward to trying 6-apb for over the past year.

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Since I was just in TR to reply to my recent 6-APB report, I thought I'd check this out. You must have an insane tolerance to these compounds if 420mg didn't produce euphoria - then again, the fact you took another dose a week later is saying something already, like MDxx you should space experiences with this out by at least a month :)

150mg had me thinking the euphoria was strong enough to kill me haha. Mainly posting this because even for someone quite heavy and tolerance I don't think you'd ever need close to 420mg, even close to 200-250mg would probably be too much for most people, and in fact at some points 150mg almost felt too much for me.
 
I think Xanax ruined the party for you. Somehow it does an excellent job killing off the euphoric feelings from 6-apb
 
One more thing, the 6-apb I received was a tannish brownish color with a powder/sugar like texture. While I have a legitimate prescription for alprazolam, I only use benzos a few times a month. I'm a so-called "middle manager" of a large company and 1mg allows me to perform at a higher level when I'm in meetings or when I have to give speeches. My benzo use is very limited so I don't think it affected my experience at all. I just know from experience it will knock me out fast at higher doses.

Looking back, 6-apb is definitely an interesting chemicals. I will say this, don't go into the experience thinking your going to get an experience very similar to MDxx. It's not as MDxx like as it's made out to be or as much as I interpreted from all the information I read. It does have some similarities. I can see were people would really like this substance at lower doses 125-200mg. It's just not for me. Super high doses will give you a very visual 2c-x like experience. I was completely unprepared for that side of the chemical. The lack of any mental effect and lack of any euphoria were the big letdowns for me. But to someone else, that mite a good thing.

I have no tolerance at all. Last time I tried an MDxx substance(bk-mdma) was spring 2010. On 420mg, the body high was out of this world, but it wasn't eurphoric if that makes sense. My body felt amazing on a level completely out of this world but it didn't have that euphoric empathogen feel to it if that makes sense.
 
One more thing, the 6-apb I received was a tannish brownish color with a powder/sugar like texture. While I have a legitimate prescription for alprazolam, I only use benzos a few times a month. I'm a so-called "middle manager" of a large company and 1mg allows me to perform at a higher level when I'm in meetings or when I have to give speeches. My benzo use is very limited so I don't think it affected my experience at all. I just know from experience it will knock me out fast at higher doses.

Looking back, 6-apb is definitely an interesting chemicals. I will say this, don't go into the experience thinking your going to get an experience very similar to MDxx. It's not as MDxx like as it's made out to be or as much as I interpreted from all the information I read. It does have some similarities. I can see were people would really like this substance at lower doses 125-200mg. It's just not for me. Super high doses will give you a very visual 2c-x like experience. I was completely unprepared for that side of the chemical. The lack of any mental effect and lack of any euphoria were the big letdowns for me. But to someone else, that mite a good thing.

I have no tolerance at all. Last time I tried an MDxx substance(bk-mdma) was spring 2010. On 420mg, the body high was out of this world, but it wasn't eurphoric if that makes sense. My body felt amazing on a level completely out of this world but it didn't have that euphoric empathogen feel to it if that makes sense.


I know what you mean about the absence of the deep connection that flows into a lot of the MDMA experience but it lacking in the 6-APB experience. I took 90mgs and the body high was incredible and I had a stable energy flow. At 90mgs the visuals were of nothing to mention. There was some nystagmus near the beginning but that wore off quickly. I'm going to wait quite awhile to try this again and next time I'm going to be out doing something while I do.
 
Interesting.... 6 Apb is one of my favourite chems at the moment. I have only done it around 4 times now, 150 mg being the highest dose. Would love to know how 420mg felt, must of been amazing!
 
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