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6,7-Methylenedioxy-2-aminotetralin [MDAT]
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isthisincognito
Bluelighter
I got some, tried it yesterday. I'd rank it above MDAI.
I think sub lingual is a nice way to go with this one, feels nice as it dissolves. After about an hour after i got home, i had no effect, so i got into bed. When i got up to go for a smoke it hit me. Felt like my chest was a helium balloon anchored by my legs.
My balance was impaired slightly, i got pleasant tingles running through my body. Goosebumps felt amazing. Snuggling in bed was awesome.
I had no bad side effects, nice experience. I noticed while i was on the phone that the moon was big that night, later after the peak i went to get a drink, i noticed something odd.
I live on the fifth floor, So i can see quite alot on the horizon, I noticed everything in the distance, such as the cranes, the Edwardian buildings along the river, and the Town Hall all seemed very large.
Visual wise, all i got was some minor warping, nothing nauseating. Very pleasant overall.
Struggled to sleep afterwards, effects lasted about 6 hours, peak was around 3am, couldn't sleep 'til around 11am
It's effects are definitely better when you're moving as opposed to staying still, but they both offer different sensations.
It was brown, large crystals in appearance. The appearance reminded me of demerara sugar. It tasted a bit like demerara sugar mixed with salt. I could happily let it dissolve on my tongue.
My first two doses were bombed, everything after that i dissolved under my tongue.
My doses were as follows
50mg (9pm, bombed)
50mg (10pm, bombed)
100mg (11pm)
150mg (12pm)
150mg (1am)
I got up, and noticed it's effects (1.20 am)
I think sub lingual is a nice way to go with this one, feels nice as it dissolves. After about an hour after i got home, i had no effect, so i got into bed. When i got up to go for a smoke it hit me. Felt like my chest was a helium balloon anchored by my legs.
My balance was impaired slightly, i got pleasant tingles running through my body. Goosebumps felt amazing. Snuggling in bed was awesome.
I had no bad side effects, nice experience. I noticed while i was on the phone that the moon was big that night, later after the peak i went to get a drink, i noticed something odd.
I live on the fifth floor, So i can see quite alot on the horizon, I noticed everything in the distance, such as the cranes, the Edwardian buildings along the river, and the Town Hall all seemed very large.
Visual wise, all i got was some minor warping, nothing nauseating. Very pleasant overall.
Struggled to sleep afterwards, effects lasted about 6 hours, peak was around 3am, couldn't sleep 'til around 11am
It's effects are definitely better when you're moving as opposed to staying still, but they both offer different sensations.
It was brown, large crystals in appearance. The appearance reminded me of demerara sugar. It tasted a bit like demerara sugar mixed with salt. I could happily let it dissolve on my tongue.
My first two doses were bombed, everything after that i dissolved under my tongue.
My doses were as follows
50mg (9pm, bombed)
50mg (10pm, bombed)
100mg (11pm)
150mg (12pm)
150mg (1am)
I got up, and noticed it's effects (1.20 am)
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/navarone/
Bluelighter
^ Nice.
2-AT, according to wiki, seems to fully substitute for d-amp in rats so i would expect quasi identical effects on MDAT however I couldn't find any information regarding which enatiomer is the most active. From my ChemSketch program the conformational optimization yielded a plain cyclohexyl group bonded to the benzene ring with the only stereo-center at the amine conjugation.
Any guesses on which enatiomer is the most active?
2-AT, according to wiki, seems to fully substitute for d-amp in rats so i would expect quasi identical effects on MDAT however I couldn't find any information regarding which enatiomer is the most active. From my ChemSketch program the conformational optimization yielded a plain cyclohexyl group bonded to the benzene ring with the only stereo-center at the amine conjugation.
Any guesses on which enatiomer is the most active?
dread
Bluelighter
/navarone/
Bluelighter
A very virile amine. LOL!
i cant comment on the chemistry of mdat and mdai, but for me mdai did little. from a psychiatric perspective they were all developed for use as antidepressents, and not mdma replacments as such. being SSRI's they wont come close to mandy.
Does anyone know the CAS number for MDAT?
Don't be quick to judge MDAI; A lot of the MDAI going around is less than 50% pure. Next week i'm going to be doing some more investigation with that (like, actual lab work, not bioassays)
Don't be quick to judge MDAI; A lot of the MDAI going around is less than 50% pure. Next week i'm going to be doing some more investigation with that (like, actual lab work, not bioassays)
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MurphyClox
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What is so fascinating with CAS-numbers? 8)
101625-35-8 (free base)
33446-21-8 (hydrochloride)
- Murphy
he he.
perhaps these people are numerologists and will crack the secret code of RC's using these CAS numbers.
MurphyClox
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Crack? Crack? Did somebody mention crack??? 
has the quality of mdai increased then since its realease a month or so back on the rc market? - is it worth me trying it again? my batch was brown, i took it orally in capsules.
any recomended dose? - i will be watching this thread carefully as i was initially excitted about mdai. id much rather see a lovely mdma replacment then a m-cat one, ...
any recomended dose? - i will be watching this thread carefully as i was initially excitted about mdai. id much rather see a lovely mdma replacment then a m-cat one, ...
Arrived in the post, typically had to try it the same day.
Large tan crystals.
Tasted one, not too terrible, did my w/out about 30 minutes on weights.
12. 30 pm 100 mg on a 0.00 scale
I was feeling pretty crap today, so that had an effect. Also did EC before training, so more jittery than normal.
Started cleaning house, I always think that a day cannot be so bad if at the end I have something to show for it, so I did several hours of gardening and housework.
The stuff takes a long time to peak, hours I'd say. For me much stronger than the mdai I have tried, more energy, less contentment. Felt pretty spaced out most of the time, not really focussing, but energised to do the pretty mindless tasks I was completing one after another.
Something like a low dose of mephedrone energy but none of the euphoria. More like a lack of focus and slightly anxious, though as I say, I felt bad this morning, in spite of the fine weather, and no doubt too many drugs recently have contributed. Need to slow down and reset.
Anyway its now 8.15 pm and I am still going strong but not at the peak, although on this it is all pretty steady and no massive peak or point you can say this is it. Been mindlessly watching youtube videos for an hour and getting a bit restless, so will take the dog for a walk.
So, abundance of energy, no euphoria, wide eyes, intellectually diminished, not overwhelmed at any point, thirsty all the time, despite a few pints of water, got loads of chores done, I cannot complain. In fact I'd say it was pretty positive. I think there will be the temptation to add something like mephedrone to this to give the drive a bit more of a euphoric edge, and that could be a mistake from a health perspective. I pretty much would bet that tomorrow I will be washed out if not in any particular pain or anything, but I cannot imagine the fairly substantial energy release comes free of charge.
If the comedown is mild, I'll give it the thumbs up. If not, well, one gram split over months should not do much damage, I hope.
Large tan crystals.
Tasted one, not too terrible, did my w/out about 30 minutes on weights.
12. 30 pm 100 mg on a 0.00 scale
I was feeling pretty crap today, so that had an effect. Also did EC before training, so more jittery than normal.
Started cleaning house, I always think that a day cannot be so bad if at the end I have something to show for it, so I did several hours of gardening and housework.
The stuff takes a long time to peak, hours I'd say. For me much stronger than the mdai I have tried, more energy, less contentment. Felt pretty spaced out most of the time, not really focussing, but energised to do the pretty mindless tasks I was completing one after another.
Something like a low dose of mephedrone energy but none of the euphoria. More like a lack of focus and slightly anxious, though as I say, I felt bad this morning, in spite of the fine weather, and no doubt too many drugs recently have contributed. Need to slow down and reset.
Anyway its now 8.15 pm and I am still going strong but not at the peak, although on this it is all pretty steady and no massive peak or point you can say this is it. Been mindlessly watching youtube videos for an hour and getting a bit restless, so will take the dog for a walk.
So, abundance of energy, no euphoria, wide eyes, intellectually diminished, not overwhelmed at any point, thirsty all the time, despite a few pints of water, got loads of chores done, I cannot complain. In fact I'd say it was pretty positive. I think there will be the temptation to add something like mephedrone to this to give the drive a bit more of a euphoric edge, and that could be a mistake from a health perspective. I pretty much would bet that tomorrow I will be washed out if not in any particular pain or anything, but I cannot imagine the fairly substantial energy release comes free of charge.
If the comedown is mild, I'll give it the thumbs up. If not, well, one gram split over months should not do much damage, I hope.
/navarone/
Bluelighter
Crack? Crack? Did somebody mention crack???
Ow please don't tell me you're one of those.....I have too much consideration of your persona to even merely think that you smoke rocks!
Poodles!
Bluelighter
Hmmi. I've recently ordered a sample of MDAT so will test it with Marquis, Mecke and a couple others.... then do the usual bioassay method. I'm expecting it to be better than MDAI as the last batch of that I received was just a gram of goo with grainy bits here and there and and smelled nice. Nice and impure. VERY impure... can 2-3% impurity do that to something? Nothing like the dark brown almost sandy stuff I used pay a lot more for from European sources rather than local ones. Plus this Vendor gives me a good vibe for some reason so I trust that the quality of the MDAT will be quite good.
And someone mentioned earlier about possibly ordering from a "dodgy" looking source. I did that recently with 5-IAI and believe from current TR's that I actually received this chemical. will do reagent tests with another sample.
And someone mentioned earlier about possibly ordering from a "dodgy" looking source. I did that recently with 5-IAI and believe from current TR's that I actually received this chemical. will do reagent tests with another sample.
Next day after Mdat was not too bad at all. I had to go to work for a couple of hours (self-employed so I can have easy days) and Igot through not too badly.
I do not think it had any negative effect on sexual function.
so a thumbs up for the Mdat I rec'd. Very effective at 100 mg so cost effective.
anyway,I am now waiting for benzofury and letting my system reset after trying quite a few new things and old things...
Bluelighters,
Take it easy, not too high not too low, you should be OK.
I do not think it had any negative effect on sexual function.
so a thumbs up for the Mdat I rec'd. Very effective at 100 mg so cost effective.
anyway,I am now waiting for benzofury and letting my system reset after trying quite a few new things and old things...
Bluelighters,
Take it easy, not too high not too low, you should be OK.
An unusual substance. Having dosed at 150mg after a couple of beers I found little in the way of stimulation, instead it gave a dreamlike edge to my vision and a sedate relaxed mood.
Colour enhancement and some minor visual distortions, but little else. Notably, one of my lights appeared overwhelmingly red, my hands seemed to move in a contorted fashion, and the sky outside was like a painting set apart from the rest of my line of sight.
Lasted a couple of hours, not sure if I'd try this one again.
Colour enhancement and some minor visual distortions, but little else. Notably, one of my lights appeared overwhelmingly red, my hands seemed to move in a contorted fashion, and the sky outside was like a painting set apart from the rest of my line of sight.
Lasted a couple of hours, not sure if I'd try this one again.