5mg Of Subutex Knocking Me On My Ass!

[allecw]

So I finally got to go see my bupe doc today so I can stop my oxy addiction and he puts me on 8mg Subutex. Im supposed to take half a tablet at a time and see how much its going to take to get relief. My oxy habit at the current time isnt that bad. im taking close to 100mg a day but I can get by without withdrawls with less. Usually about 30-40mg dose to feel nice.

I get the Subutex at about 1pm while in slight withdrawls and take about 5mg sublingual. For the first hour it seems like nothing is going to happen. I get relief from my withdrawls though. Im about to take another half tablet about an hour in and I all the sudden begin to get real real groggy. So I lay down and I havent really been able to stay awake since. Every time I try to get up I get too tired and have to lay back down and end up falling back asleep.

Oxy has never made me this tired! A little while ago my stomach was kinda nausea and I thought it might of been withdrawls but there was no way I was going to take anymore Subutex right now.

Is this normal? Tommorow im going to start with like 1mg and see what that does and then work my way up if I need to. Also I didnt eat anything at all today so im going to eat something tommorow for sure before I take it.

How long does this stuff work? Its already been six hours and im just getting more tired. I also take klonopin and im really scared to take my dose of it even though I need to so it can calm me down. I havent taken it since last night. Its taking everything I have to write this! I have never been this tired!

 

[Tommyboy]

I think the klonopin had something to do with it. 5mgs is defanitely enough to get you a very strong buzz given your oxy habit. When I was prescribed suboxone, taking it with a little bit of xanax would knock me on my ass, and I was only taking 1mg of xanax.

 

[allecw]

i havent taken any klonopin since last night. i took 2mg of klonopin total yesterday last taking 0.5mg at 9pm last night. i know it has a long half-life but i dont think it would still be effecting me now. i took 5mg of subutex today at 1pm with no klonopin.

i normally dont go this long without taking any klonopin but with how i feel im a little scared to take any klonopin now. i know it would calm me down but im just gonna wait it out.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

When you feel comfortable, take the Klonopin.
You should feel the bupe for awhile. Starting with 1.5-2mg and going up isn't a bad idea.

 

[allecw]

im starting to come out of the haze i was in now! what dose should i start out with tomorrow? this stuff is a lot stronger than i gave it credit for. im thinking of just going with 1mg and seeing what that does. any suggestions?

also just wondering whats the oxycodone equivelance to 5mg sub? i have taken rather large doses of oxycodone and never felt that out of it before! im glad i had nothing to do today cause it would of been near impossible to do anything.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Take 1mg under the tongue, wait 1-1.5hrs, take 0.5-1mg. Repeat as needed.

I've seen many a person think bupe is weak, only to fall on their ass and puke their brains out for 12+ hours lol .

 

[unsettled]

I took literally a crumb sized piece of sub back when I would only occasionally take vicodin and I was high for a solid 12 hours. Very powerful drug.

 

[bpayne]

hell yeah, a few weeks ago I came upon a few 2 mg subs, and crushed it up and would snort tiny bumps, each 2 mg sub lasted me about 3 days. my buddy who is nontolerant to opies took like a quarter of it under the tongue and dude was puking for like 15 hours

 

[allecw]

im having trouble trying to figure out what my sub dosage should be. the first day when i took about 5mg and couldnt function whatsoever obviously was too much. but the sub didnt make me sick. that was as close to a buzz as i want to come.

on tue i took like 1mg in the morning, and i didnt feel anything. a little uncomfortable still though. later that afternoon i took close to another 1mg and layed down and when i got up i felt as close to normal as i have since i started on it.

yesterday i took like 1mg in the morning and 1mg later in the afternoon and i started to get really sick. like the sick i used to get when i first stated hydros and took too many. atleast thats what i think.

this morning i took a crumb which could of been 0.5-1mg. felt sick still so i took another crumb. still sick so i just took a little more. hard to tell how much im taking though.

how do i tell if the medicine is making me sick or if im going through withdrawals? im feeling very nausea in my sternum area, and very uncomfortable. this morning i even had intestinal discomfort so im pretty sure that was opiate withdrawal.

also i am finding it extermely diffucult to measure my doses. the 8mg subs are not scored, and when i cut them in half they seem to crumble up. i cannot cut them evenly so im more guessing what im taking. im taking what looks like crumbs. i want to cut them into even 1mg doses but cant do it.

i have came to the conclusion that i do not want any kind of buzz off my subs i just want to feel completely normal. not sick, not craving, not tired. just normal. so far i have felt sick, weird, extremely tired but have yet to crave any other opiates.

 

[Pegasus]

^2mg sounds like a good dose for you, then. Check out some of the resources we have in OD about bupe; many people get by on less than 2mg once they get used to the drug. It is generally accepted that even very large opiate habits can be held with 2mg bupe or less. Personally, I switched from my 80mg/ day OC habit to around 0.5mg snorted, which for me works out to around 1.5mg sublingually. The equivalencies given generally give sublingual about half the effect of snorting, but for me, it is definitely a bit less than that.

 

[allecw]

i was thinking 2mg also. or maybe 1.5mg. i just took between 1.5 and 2mg and i feel pretty good. like i said its hard to tell since im taking small chunks. the only problem is i feel im minutes away from getting sick again. i feel if i get up to do anything i will get sick.

this really reminds me of when i started doing hydros a few years ago and i would feel like this sometimes. i feal kinda sweaty and dizzy and i can get real sick real easy. im getting my sub doc to write a script out for zofran which i think will help a lot. i just have to get the energy to go over there and pick it up! im worried if i were to go now i would get sick right when i get in my car.

will this nausea side effect go away once i get used to taking it?

 

[allecw]

damn!!!! i spoke too soon about the 2mg bupe just making me feel ok and a little sick. i went to lay down and after a few minutes i was nodding out like crazy. i just made myself get up and currently feel extremely high and out of it. not an oxy high but still high.

it seems that a lot of it has to do with if i decide to lay down or not. if i lay down the bupe knocks me out. if i stay up it doesnt. i just had to lay down cause i was getting sick.

this bupe is a strange and very powerful drug. i hope i get it figured out in a couple of days. im going out of town on monday.

it almost reminds me of what my friends say about methadone. just when you think its not working it all the sudden kicks in. maybe next time i wont redose for a couple of hours.

 

[fm1983]

im having trouble trying to figure out what my sub dosage should be. the first day when i took about 5mg and couldnt function whatsoever obviously was too much. but the sub didnt make me sick. that was as close to a buzz as i want to come.

on tue i took like 1mg in the morning, and i didnt feel anything. a little uncomfortable still though. later that afternoon i took close to another 1mg and layed down and when i got up i felt as close to normal as i have since i started on it.

yesterday i took like 1mg in the morning and 1mg later in the afternoon and i started to get really sick. like the sick i used to get when i first stated hydros and took too many. atleast thats what i think.

this morning i took a crumb which could of been 0.5-1mg. felt sick still so i took another crumb. still sick so i just took a little more. hard to tell how much im taking though.

how do i tell if the medicine is making me sick or if im going through withdrawals? im feeling very nausea in my sternum area, and very uncomfortable. this morning i even had intestinal discomfort so im pretty sure that was opiate withdrawal.

also i am finding it extermely diffucult to measure my doses. the 8mg subs are not scored, and when i cut them in half they seem to crumble up. i cannot cut them evenly so im more guessing what im taking. im taking what looks like crumbs. i want to cut them into even 1mg doses but cant do it.

i have came to the conclusion that i do not want any kind of buzz off my subs i just want to feel completely normal. not sick, not craving, not tired. just normal. so far i have felt sick, weird, extremely tired but have yet to crave any other opiates.

If I were you, crush up a 8mg tablet and divide into 8 lines. That should give you roughly 1mg per line. Start by taking 1mg (by whatever ROA you use), and wait 45mn. If you do not feel relief or where you want to be, do another mg. Keep doing that until you find your sweet spot.